Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.4] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[destroyerofassholes]

Atugia isn't bad, there's just not much content for a character supposedly in a companion slot - she's virtually irrelevant most of the time, like berwyn was. She's also not super fetish material, the "baseline human" companion choice, so the game's audience isn't likely to pick her. She was a kind of mediocre tank for a while, too. What content she does have is decent.

Playing as a black mage, the update that made guarded stance an automatic action improved her in combat. Her biggest problem is lack of content / compelling content, and then you bitch that there is atugia companion content? That's backwards. Does it show up even if she's not a companion or something?

Aside from the bigger issues some of you have some very serious hateboners for some minor parts of this game, I don't get it. I don't even pay attention to the writers names most of the time. It's like you expect the people making an erotic literature rpg about furries to not be mental cases. The fact that a few of them can pass as normal-ish people even online is already a miracle, and the writing isn't 10/10, but it's at least passable most of the time.

And bitching about update speed for a game done in a relatively consistent manner for years is a waste of electricity. It's not gonna change, and at least they make progress every month, even if TiTS and this will be finished around the time the second martian colony declares independence.

That said, my minor complaint is that I want to fuck the elf, damn Savin. The reasoning behind no Ivris scenes is dumb.

We're all just having fun here. I like the game overall. I think most of us do. Don't think too much into the vitriol here.

 

[barsa]

Also, on the topic of reviewing / getting permission, when you say that Wsan definitely got permission from Savin, you're not exactly 100% certain of that either (or how much reviewing / overhead was given). This is just speculation on our parts about what exactly goes on within the dev team. From how Savin was supposedly not aware at all about the Etheryn Hashat scene (despite definitely also would have been contacted by SKoW for "permission", surely ?), and thus had it reworked

That's why I didn't state it as a fact - or at least I tried (and failed oviously) - to deliver it as such. I just assume that someone like Wsan that's really unhappy with Tobs writing a cucking scene about his OC without being asked/informed, would at least have the manners to do it himself.

You're right in your assumption that Savin does not review every written content, by the way. I think it must've been either on the official forums or on the blog where I once read a post of him saying that he has that much trust in some of the writers that he doesn't proof read stuff that they turn in and puts it right on the coding stack.
So I totally understand where you're coming from with your gripe. It's bad when other writers do a character disservice with their writing and gets even worse when they make these characters do things that seem to happen totally out of nowhere.

I also find it somewhat interesting that you didn't address the point about Wsan writing those Lessala's Adventurers interactions for Berwyn, when at that point he and the other devs knew that Berwyn was not going to be a Companion moving forward - as well as Wsan's idea to keep this from the community for more than half a year.

Speaking of facts and such. Is that one? Did the writers know as far back as when Lessala and companions were written, that Berwyn was about to get scrapped?
Not trying to sound rude here, but you're probably the first that I have seen mention this, so I ignored it as hearsay.

 

[Wavering]

That's why I didn't state it as a fact - or at least I tried (and failed oviously) - to deliver it as such. I just assume that someone like Wsan that's really unhappy with Tobs writing a cucking scene about his OC without being asked/informed, would at least have the manners to do it himself.

You're right in your assumption that Savin does not review every written content, by the way. I think it must've been either on the official forums or on the blog where I once read a post of him saying that he has that much trust in some of the writers that he doesn't proof read stuff that they turn in and puts it right on the coding stack.
So I totally understand where you're coming from with your gripe. It's bad when other writers do a character disservice with their writing and gets even worse when they make these characters do things that seem to happen totally out of nowhere.


Speaking of facts and such. Is that one? Did the writers know as far back as when Lessala and companions were written, that Berwyn was about to get scrapped?
Not trying to sound rude here, but you're probably the first that I have seen mention this, so I ignored it as hearsay.

Whole quote for context.

That's why I didn't state it as a fact - or at least I tried (and failed oviously) - to deliver it as such. I just assume that someone like Wsan that's really unhappy with Tobs writing a cucking scene about his OC without being asked/informed, would at least have the manners to do it himself.

Right, but the thing is that that is an assumption that he would of done that, which it seemed like you used to disprove my point. Well, in the context, not my actual point, but that was addressed in the previous post.
That's pretty much why I replied as such.

You're right in your assumption that Savin does not review every written content, by the way. I think it must've been either on the official forums or on the blog where I once read a post of him saying that he has that much trust in some of the writers that he doesn't proof read stuff that they turn in and puts it right on the coding stack.
So I totally understand where you're coming from with your gripe. It's bad when other writers do a character disservice with their writing and gets even worse when they make these characters do things that seem to happen totally out of nowhere.

Yeah, Savin has said some funny things, such as the coders needing more content, they have so much free time (but apparently not enough at that point in time to fix bugs )

Link: https://forum.fenoxo.com/threads/need-another-helper.25033/#post-360832

Speaking of facts and such. Is that one? Did the writers know as far back as when Lessala and companions were written, that Berwyn was about to get scrapped?
Not trying to sound rude here, but you're probably the first that I have seen mention this, so I ignored it as hearsay.

True, your skepticism is valid, can't say with 100% certainty, but I'll give you the timeline according to the public posts:

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So yeah, I don't know, who's to say really.
Will say though, that it's not exactly the greatest look with how they handled the whole situation, for sure.

Anyway, sorry for dredging up such an old topic.

 

[barsa]

Anyway, sorry for dredging up such an old topic.

No need to be. That was an amazing post with lots of juicy drama sauce. Thank you very much.

Will say though, that it's not exactly the greatest look with how they handled the whole situation, for sure.

Savin isn't the most professional company owner on the planet but I actually always kinda liked how he handled the Hugs-Drama. When asked what happened, he always kept the answers short and to a bare minimum. The more juicy details we allegedly know of the thing always came from Hugs and with his mental illness and all, he seems somewhat like an unreliable narrator.

He lost his credibility completely after that one time though when he blamed SavCo on twitter for one of his visits to the hospital. I knew people in my life that would try to guilt trip others into believing it was their fault for them hurting themselves and whatnot, and people like this are just the biggest pieces of shit on the planet, if you'd ask me.

So I stopped believing that Hugs has ever said and will say right then and there. People like this are just too prone to lying.

Apart from that he had given up all rights to Berwyn when he started writing him for the game. We - myself included - make fun of Savin and his DnD group here for being too attached to their characters and inserting them into the game but are somehow more lenient on Hugs when he kinda does the same without an end in sight. The "being too attached" part, I mean.

Yeah, Savin has said some funny things, such as the coders needing more content, they have so much free time (but apparently not enough at that point in time to fix bugs )
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At least when Elon Musk said something stupid like that, Tesla lost billions. But there's no way enough paypigs would have seen this forum post to cancel their patreon subscriptions.

It's so sad.

 

[Quintilus]

Hard disagree. This is a porn game. It should revolve around the Player Character. Your line of thinking is why this game is so shit currently.

Obligatory THIS IS NOT A POWER FANTASY TO SET PLAYER TO THE CENTER OF A STORY!!!!!!!!!11111111111
You cant have constant, perpetual sex for entire game. I mean, you cant develop entire world/characters/etc. through only/constant sex only. If world revolves around player as soon as he stop doing what game expect from him, entire world freeze.
Living, breathing world >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only player can have sex, fight me!!! 'Living, breathing world ' include, but not limited with, sex that happens outside of a players view is include
Also spoiler, coc2 doesnt have 'living, breathing world'.

Plus, 'game' is shit not because OMG SOMEBODY SPILLED SEXUAL REVOLUTION INTO A GAME!!!!!!!1111111

 

[Quintilus]

The NTR is mostly when your companions get sexed up when you lose.

AFAIK its "your companions get sexed INSTEAD OF YOU, and you forced to watch". So exchange of anal virginity for feelings.

 

[Quintilus]

i keep getting a white screen on load. Any solution?

Startup of a game?!
Open game folder, go to folder 'resources', than to 'app', find there file called index.html and open it with any browser (double click should do the trick, usually).
After game opens up in your default browser press f12 key and post what it says there here.

 

[Kroenen12]

Regardless of that if Brienne is with the party, she will at the most just have a friendly conversation with one of the two adventurers that stayed back.

Cow waifu truly is best girl.

based cow wife/cuckqueen

 

[Ahamkara's Wish]

either of the two stalker NPCs

Two stalkers? I only know of the one from the elevator on that space station. Who's that other one?

 

[Skandranon]

Sophora. Some buffed bunny that you can encounter as early as Zheng Shi (, I believe?). Has been implemented some months ago and looking at the bug forum tells me that they still haven't managed to fix all of her bugs.

For several months now by the way. A single encounter. They haven't managed it. Had to repeat that in my mind to really let that sink in. It's that hard to believe.. I hope Fenoxo doesn't pay his programmers well.

Is that hard to believe? I've played much, much bigger games by much, much bigger companies that take literal years to fix bugs. Or never.

Overwatch has had bugs for 2+ years that never get fixed, and I could probably go on about Total War for a good few hours...

 

[MoneyMan181]

Apart from that he had given up all rights to Berwyn when he started writing him for the game. We - myself included - make fun of Savin and his DnD group here for being too attached to their characters and inserting them into the game but are somehow more lenient on Hugs when he kinda does the same without an end in sight. The "being too attached" part, I mean.

Don't really recall anybody here being more lenient with him, we just don't talk about the author himself very often. Guy does seem fucked in the head and extremely overly attached to some coom-bait trap he made, though. Like sheesh, Hugs acts like it's a human rights violation that they wrote for his character lmao.

We're all just having fun here. I like the game overall. I think most of us do. Don't think too much into the vitriol here.

Sorry not sorry, but gonna use your post to ramble. Just ignore all this if you don't care for that.

Having fun? Yeah, for sure. Liking the game, though? Eh, not really. The writing is just so boring and unimaginative, not to mention the amount of scenes I just don't care for. Whenever I compare this game's writing to almost any other media with decent writing, I'm always just left wondering, "That's it?" when I come back to this game.

Just look at Cyberpunk Edgerunners for example. They managed to craft a compelling and meaningful story, build up their characters and make you feel for them, and pay homage to the source material in great ways. They manage to do all that in just 10 episodes that are about 20 minutes each. About 3 and a half hours of content managed to evoke more emotion and thought out of me than this whole game. If you want a porn game example, Being a Dik is the equivalent of that.

Now that's not to say that alone makes the game bad. It's a porn game after all and its job is to get you off. But it doesn't even manage to do that outside of a few exceptions. For me, I usually have to actually like the character or their journey to actually get off to them. Yet most characters in this game are just so unappealing and give me zero reason to care about them. And that's not even mentioning that most scenes just feel boring and hold little weight to me.

When I compare CoC2 to other games, nothing really incentivizes me to play it over them. It tries to do a bunch of different things, but none of them are done in interesting or appealing enough ways to make me care.

 

[Evizzy89]

Two stalkers? I only know of the one from the elevator on that space station. Who's that other one?

If you hunt down enough of those jumper bunnys on zheng shi? (the prison place)
then the big boss bunny comes to hunt you down and follow you wherever you go
shes a huge dick mean lookin bunny with addictive cum if I recall correctly, lose to her too many times, (or beat her and injest her cum) leads to a bad end
shes actually a *I think* one of the hardest fights in the game, so make a save before you trigger her stalking event because she wont stop hunting you anywhere you go and too many losses = game over

 

[Deviton123]

Guys, I'm new to the game and I'm planning to be a white mage that acts like a paladin. What companions do you think I should use?

 

[Rickart]

AFAIK its "your companions get sexed INSTEAD OF YOU, and you forced to watch". So exchange of anal virginity for feelings.

Kind of surprised that no one (here or in the dev team) seems to view that as corruption content. "Party Member who trusts/idolizes/loves me, I'm going to sacrifice you to the rapacious lusts of this particular obstacle for my personal preservation/convenience" feels like it should have some sort of corrupting effect, both for the PC and for the party member in question.

 

[Rickart]

Guys, I'm new to the game and I'm planning to be a white mage that acts like a paladin. What companions do you think I should use?

Gameplay-wise, I couldn't really say. I play the game on story difficulty, cause I'm not here for the RPG mechanics XD

Role Play-wise, I'd recommend Brint/Brienne, Azzyran, Etheryn and Atugia. They're the companions with some of the biggest "We're the good guys and we're here to help" energy to them. Cait and Quin could also potentially work, but the way they act is more controversial here. Cait's a friendly white mage who wants to help everyone, but is as promiscuous as the Player, which a lot of people here hate. Quin's a reformed cultist with a questline where you help him become a knight, but he's disliked for being a horndog who doesn't bottom for anyone outside of rare defeat scenes. If you don't mind those character qualities, you might enjoy having them around.

I believe (don't quote me on this) that the companions who have the most flavor-text when travelling/questing are Brint/Brienne, Cait, Etheryn, and Arona.

 

[Skandranon]

Kind of surprised that no one (here or in the dev team) seems to view that as corruption content. "Party Member who trusts/idolizes/loves me, I'm going to sacrifice you to the rapacious lusts of this particular obstacle for my personal preservation/convenience" feels like it should have some sort of corrupting effect, both for the PC and for the party member in question.

You're not sacrificing anyone, she volunteers. You don't get a choice.

 

[Deviton123]

Gameplay-wise, I couldn't really say. I play the game on story difficulty, cause I'm not here for the RPG mechanics XD

Role Play-wise, I'd recommend Brint/Brienne, Azzyran, Etheryn and Atugia. They're the companions with some of the biggest "We're the good guys and we're here to help" energy to them. Cait and Quin could also potentially work, but the way they act is more controversial here. Cait's a friendly white mage who wants to help everyone, but is as promiscuous as the Player, which a lot of people here hate. Quin's a reformed cultist with a questline where you help him become a knight, but he's disliked for being a horndog who doesn't bottom for anyone outside of rare defeat scenes. If you don't mind those character qualities, you might enjoy having them around.

I believe (don't quote me on this) that the companions who have the most flavor-text when travelling/questing are Brint/Brienne, Cait, Etheryn, and Arona.

At the moment I care more for gameplay, but thanks for the suggestions. I know this game has the NTR tag, so do you know which characters are the safest when it comes to romance?

 

[thecatcameback]

You should play on the easy mode, then. Not story, but the one above it. Gives you a 20 percent buff and enemies a 20 percent nerf. Game likes pulling off bullshit and insta crushing your character often. Gameplay is still unbalanced since they have you locked on a set level while throwing stronger enemies at you at one point.

 

[Kroenen12]

At the moment I care more for gameplay, but thanks for the suggestions. I know this game has the NTR tag, so do you know which characters are the safest when it comes to romance?

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[MoneyMan181]

"'Drifa', though, means 'fall of snow' or 'snowdrift' in old icelandic. This name, in retrospect is actually very fitting and poetically beautiful as Drifa's content is serene as the gentle snowfall."

>Drifa's content is serene as the gentle snowfall
>Admits to loving you after one date
>You can have a 24 hour sex marathon with her
>Possible to let werewolves kidnap and rape her
>Can corrupt her

As serene as a brick to the face.