2019 was the worst year for adult gaming

[83wulf]

Sometimes I think many people on here don’t realise how good we have it, nowadays. We expect everything to be made both impossibly well and lightning fast.
We have amazing games here. We really should be grateful for this, instead of moaning about examples of what could have been.

When I look back at the time I took a break from adult gaming in 2012, almost everything that was made back then is greatly outclassed by what is made now. And I’m not talking about graphics (which have obviously evolved).
Most adult games made outside of Japan were both amateurish and overambitious with the tools and resources of the era. While valiant efforts, they were usually badly written, poorly planned, shoddily drawn and (entirely foreseeably) abandoned half-way.
The talent and discipline displayed by many of the devs here is seriously impressive. The standard is so much higher than it was.

When devs decide to make their first game, they rarely fully comprehend beforehand the sheer scale of the project. The fact that so many games are actually completed, let alone so well, is remarkable. I do think these devs deserve our respect, rather than our impatience. Good things are worth waiting for.

(Apart from many of the great games already mentioned, I have high hopes for Gates Motel and Bad Memories.)

 

[cimibibapa2]

Sometimes I think many people on here don’t realise how good we have it, nowadays. We expect everything to be made both impossibly well and lightning fast.
We have amazing games here. We really should be grateful for this, instead of moaning about examples of what could have been.

That's normal in such fast living world, to strive always for more.
Waiting 4 Months for one update and finishing the update in less than 1 hour, is not enough for such addicts as us.

2017 we got 1 update every month but this time is over, sadly...


We have amazing games but most of the "amazing" ones aren't completed (and even if they are it doesn't feel really complete)

I had really big expectations for 2019 (when it comes to adult games)

But the games that i (& many others) following didn't got any or less updates.


I was mostly disappointed by Icstor, never tought he will become like Gumdrop...


Btw i forgot to mention another good game (that nobody mentioned here) Something Unlimited (sadly his latest updates didn't get animations)

 

[SeventhVixen]

I don't play many VNs. When I got an urge and I think that some sort of digital content is what Im looking for, I just hope Bambook throw a new game on Newgounds or I find something that don't try to cram me hours of quality dialog xD

In my case I search VNs/more enduring game for erotism, the same ways I search for the TVshow I'm following because I need some of that niceplot+coolchars drug. So if I'm gonna play a VN is for some hours or Hard Clicking and OCD levels Room Searchings.

What I'm saying is that, for wathever the reason, no matter how many sexgames/TVshows are out there, every one has the ones that like to see, And also one hate to start a new one, because it doesn't now if the time and emotional investment is gonna go anywhere.

Because even if "NSFW", VNs and the like are not a bambook game on Newgrounds. They're an investment. As I don't play many VNs (or better said, frequently, by updates, etc), (personally when I feel like playing one I search for one completed) I can't empathise with this case in that way.

But when My annual TVShow that I'm excited to see has decided to bring the next season NEXT YEAR instead of this year, GOD IF I HATED AND ALL SHOWS ARE SHIT. xD
Or just if by some holiday, the next chapter airs in three weeks instead of one. What a downer.

So I get completly the problem of the OP, but, it is subjective of course. A shitty year for you because you don't got your good drug. I'm sorry man.

And also... No matter who many people so much new good shows are there and I could watch... I don't want to watch them!! I want my shit!!

 

[anne O'nymous]

In my case I search VNs/more enduring game for erotism, the same ways I search for the TVshow I'm following because I need some of that niceplot+coolchars drug. So if I'm gonna play a VN is for some hours or Hard Clicking and OCD levels Room Searchings.

You pointed precisely the problem, and the reason why games like The DeLuca Family (5 releases in 14 months) or Heavy Five (3 release in 9 months) receive (almost) no complaint regarding their updates schedule, despite it being as slow as the one for the games named by OP.

Heavy Five is the ninth thread by its number of messages, yet really few of them are to say that the last update was published too long ago. But there's a reason for this, it's "good drug", and not some product over cut with some shit, to keep you comparison. With each update, you've your dose for few months because, even when the update is possibly short, it's still something intense.
Obviously, we all expected even more content, but it's because we all want the games to be already finished, we know that we will craving for our next dose. But yet what was released is enough to occupy us for a really big amount of time. It stay in our mind, it continue to make us dream (or be sad, it depend) until the next update.

But what have the games named by OP for them ? You play the update, you sleep it, and when you wake up the next morning, you've already forgot almost all the content. In fact, most of the time you aren't even satisfied when you close the game at the end of the update.
In the end, if people complain it's because the dose wasn't good enough. And if an update isn't enough to satisfy you until the next one, then the game is far to be as good as you think.

 

[Joraell]

Horible year indeed. Because I wanted to make my game complete... Ooops. Too much things happened.

This thread is the great example of reason, why guys like Gumdrop still earning so much money.... Just because of Hype from the start and layznes of players and patreons itself.

 

[Carpe Stultus]

Agree with OP. I don't know what it is about these new "hot" games like deluca family, acting lessons, becoming a rockstar yadayadayada, they all seem like the same boring VN romantic story where everyone is a strong independent female and has a great personality and blablabla when can I trick my mom into sucking my dick?
I can't immerse myself in some lovey dovey story about Chad conquering Stacey by being a gentleman and a scholar, I'm not a Chad I'm not optimistic enough to think "this could be me IRL". Give me some edge give me blackmail and NTR, most of these titles seem like softcore porn designed for women, no offense.

Ah you mean VN's with an actuall story are boring? Sorry but i can't take people serious who claim that games like The Deluca Family had a boring story. The next thing someone will come up with is that the games mentioned in the OP have a great and enganging story or what?

 

[Deleted member 167032]

To be frank... I am not sure if I should find this topic insulting or more a reason to do something ...

There are many games I find seriously great that weren't even mentioned on here. I get that there are around 10-15 games that seems to resonate with a lot of players and I understand why.
They are great games no doubt about it, however there other games that are just as great for me, for various other reasons.
Betrayed, Intoxicating Flavor, Happy Summer, The Way, Luke's Way, Big CIty's Pleasure, Bad Memories, A Mother's Love, Life etc...
All these devs work just as hard on their games as the 10-15 one's I am speaking of. All these's games have had updates this year so why not mention them?

But people like what they like, pity as I believe we sometimes miss out on great games by just focusing on the "famous" one's and expecting incest or certain type of render/animations.

 

[Rythan25]

I always thought that horse cocks and incest, was supposed to be a surefire winner for any dev?

Not when the dev takes time from his rendering schedule to render super long ass hairs coming out of the females buttholes !! I could have sworn in one scene when one of the girls was in the toilet, he also changed the color around her asshole to show she had taken a shit and not wiped yet... I mean WTF... I know girls poop, but in fantasy land let em pretend they dont !!

Add to that one of the least likable MC's ever to grace any form of media since Tetsuo (Akira), and Shinji Ikari (Evangelion)... I mean the fuck-nugget rather jump out the window and land on his horse dick killing himself, than fucking his totally willing mother, who may I remind you was the mission the demon gave him least he kill the entire city block...

 

[ThunderRob]

i'd say it has been the best year..one..because the games mentioned in the OP are finally dying..they were good..in 2017/18 ...but things have changed drastically and now they are old bland games with zero depth or intelligence..the gaming landscape changed forever to the great when DPC and PHILLY dropped their masterpieces..and just keeps getting better..there are still releases that cling to the old retread crap that came before..but fortunately there are games with story depth personality dropping all the time to counter that crap..so..good riddance milfy city and summertime saga..you are irrelevant and will be forgotten...hello CoBD and BaDIK..you usher the bright future in!!

 

[Rythan25]

i'd say it has been the best year..one..because the games mentioned in the OP are finally dying..they were good..in 2017/18 ...but things have changed drastically and now they are old bland games with zero depth or intelligence..the gaming landscape changed forever to the great when DPC and PHILLY dropped their masterpieces..and just keeps getting better..there are still releases that cling to the old retread crap that came before..but fortunately there are games with story depth personality dropping all the time to counter that crap..so..good riddance milfy city and summertime saga..you are irrelevant and will be forgotten...hello CoBD and BaDIK..you usher the bright future in!!

Jeez... ever since you left for Discord and stopped posting regularly, you changed into a completely different person... you might need a Pepsi in your life.

I hope to god, BADIK doesnt pull an AL on you... unless you actually liked that twist, and direction, in which case, all the best to ya.

 

[anne O'nymous]

But people like what they like, pity as I believe we sometimes miss out on great games by just focusing on the "famous" one's and expecting incest or certain type of render/animations.

The problem is that actually the "famous" ones really stand far above the other ones, even the great other ones. It's like putting the strong guy from your gym in the middle the Mister Universe competitors. As strong as he look when at the gym, he suddenly looks like an average guy.
It doesn't mean that the games you named are bad games (even if one is pure grinding without a story and another broke as hell), but they can't compete, they don't play on the same category. They are pleasant to play, interesting and/or good looking, but they aren't as pleasant, as interesting and as good looking than the top ones.

 

[SolarEclipsed]

The problem is that actually the "famous" ones really stand far above the other ones, even the great other ones. It's like putting the strong guy from your gym in the middle the Mister Universe competitors. As strong as he look when at the gym, he suddenly looks like an average guy.
It doesn't mean that the games you named are bad games (even if one is pure grinding without a story and another broke as hell), but they can't compete, they don't play on the same category. They are pleasant to play, interesting and/or good looking, but they aren't as pleasant, as interesting and as good looking than the top ones.

I a couple of the famous games I don't like, but find some hidden gems, pandora's box being one of them, I downloaded at the weekend on a.off chance and liked it. Like video games I don't see the hype of Call of Duty but don't care if other people like it. Everyone's tastes are different.

 

[anne O'nymous]

I a couple of the famous games I don't like, but find some hidden gems, pandora's box being one of them, I downloaded at the weekend on a.off chance and liked it. Like video games I don't see the hype of Call of Duty but don't care if other people like it. Everyone's tastes are different.

It's neither a question of hype, nor of taste. By example, I dislike Being A DIK, never found it interesting, and found Depraved Awakening way too dark for me. Which change nothing to the fact that I recognize them as quality games and name them as it.
The quality isn't a matter of taste, and those games are well wrote, well handled, they have a good and solid enough story, characters with a (more or less) deep personality, and more than decent CG ; which is interesting, because they are in some way the opposite of each other in all points.

Saying that "this game is good" because you like it, it's as meaningless as saying that a game is bad because you dislike it. There's stupid games that I like, but I will never name them as being good games, like there's real pearl that I dislike, even one that I tend to hate, yet I name them time to time among the other real pearl actually available.
It doesn't mean that I'm totally impartial, no one can be, but when it come to judge the quality of a game, my own taste doesn't count.

 

[SolarEclipsed]

It's neither a question of hype, nor of taste. By example, I dislike Being A DIK, never found it interesting, and found Depraved Awakening way too dark for me. Which change nothing to the fact that I recognize them as quality games and name them as it.
The quality isn't a matter of taste, and those games are well wrote, well handled, they have a good and solid enough story, characters with a (more or less) deep personality, and more than decent CG ; which is interesting, because they are in some way the opposite of each other in all points.

Saying that "this game is good" because you like it, it's as meaningless as saying that a game is bad because you dislike it. There's stupid games that I like, but I will never name them as being good games, like there's real pearl that I dislike, even one that I tend to hate, yet I name them time to time among the other real pearl actually available.
It doesn't mean that I'm totally impartial, no one can be, but when it come to judge the quality of a game, my own taste doesn't count.

I think it is a matter of taste. Quality is a perception, it can never be impartial. I never say this game is good or this game is bad. I usually put I found this game enjoyable or I disliked this game because. As I said everyone has different taste, something with a good story and graphics may be quality, but it may also not be to my tastes. When I am asked for a recommendation, I usually say in my opinion. As I used Pandora's Box as an example it is a game I thought wasn't for me but decided to give it a go. I found I enjoyed it, doesn't mean others will it is just my opinion. The phrase never judge a book by it's cover. @mrknobbs I enjoy your games.

 

[anne O'nymous]

When I am asked for a recommendation, I usually say in my opinion.

I can have missed few comments, but I haven't seen someone recommend a game in this thread, nor say that "you" will enjoy playing this or that game. There's just people saying that this year had quality games that started or have been updated, which contradict what OP said. And that's all.

As I used Pandora's Box as an example it is a game I thought wasn't for me but decided to give it a go. I found I enjoyed it, doesn't mean others will it is just my opinion.

And so you talk about it like being a "hidden gem". It's you who can't separate your own taste of your judgment, not us.

Pandora's bow is far to be a "hidden gem", and here's a part of why :

• The font seem to have been chosen because it's fancy, and that's all ;
  By itself it's a fond difficult to read with few letters too deformed in regard of their expected shape, and others too similar (the proportion of the "h", by example, will make it be seen as a "n" by a lot of person, and not only by those with dyslexia). In top of that, the outlining with a color way to near to the one used for the characters make the text even more difficult to read.
• The lighting is too often generic and/or not accurate with the expected light source on the scene ;
  By example, when the MC girl go sexual with the bouncer to enter the club, the lighting come from the top of the door and the neon sign, until she get on her knee. Then a passerby is kind enough to use his flashlight to light her from the side and at her level.
• The dialogs are just generic, there's no life in them ;
  By example, the MC guy is annoyed by the emptiness of his sex life... at least it's what he say, but he never feel it.
• The scene building rely way to much on the thoughts of the characters ;
  It should be shown to us, both in the visual and in the dialogs, not explained. Showing a character thoughts is sometimes unavoidable, but here it's almost half of the text of a scene.
• The character's reaction are not accurate ;
  By example, when the MC girl remember that she was raped while being drunk, she's angry for few seconds, then she stop caring.
• The character's personality is not consistent ;
  By example, when the MC girl have to go sexual with the bouncer, her thoughts are :
  • Being dominated for a change is nice.
  • I am getting so wet... this is so wrong but... Ah...
  • What the... He wants me to...?
  • Shit... should I ? I guess there's no other way.
  Yeah, what the fuck ? She started the whole thing, stroking his cock, but had no idea of where it will lead her, really ? And despite finding nice to be dominated for once, and the whole situation making her wet, she's reluctant to go for it, seriously ?
  And after that, if she decide to have sex in the toilet, she'll once again not care a single second, and even masturbate to it. It's also just now that she think that it's fair since the MC guy cheated first ; this should be her thoughts when she was with the bouncer.
• There's case when the player choice aren't take in count in the dialog, you decide to do "this", but the dialog and thoughts will continue like if you did the other choice ;

It's a game you like, it's a game that isn't too badly done, and it's a game that can be enjoyable. But it's also just an average game, neither bad nor good.
It doesn't mean that nobody should play this game, I play it myself. But it's far to be a game that can compete in term of quality with the top games.

The phrase never judge a book by it's cover.

And, as shown above, it's not what I do. For all the games I talk about, I can explain why they are an effective pearl, or why they aren't. And in none of my explanations there will be a reason that rely only on my own taste.

@mrknobbs I enjoy your games.

Because it's a good, interesting and enjoyable game. I said it in all the thread he started, and not only in them. Yet, and he know it himself, there's place for improvement and he proved, more than once, that he's improving. The chapter/season 2 represent a big step ahead in term of quality, and this also I said it more than once.


You're judging what we say in the regard of your own taste, then lecture use because we shouldn't use our taste when judging, like if you where knowing for sure what we think about games we not named.

 

[SolarEclipsed]

I can have missed few comments, but I haven't seen someone recommend a game in this thread, nor say that "you" will enjoy playing this or that game. There's just people saying that this year had quality games that started or have been updated, which contradict what OP said. And that's all.




And so you talk about it like being a "hidden gem". It's you who can't separate your own taste of your judgment, not us.

Pandora's bow is far to be a "hidden gem", and here's a part of why :

• The font seem to have been chosen because it's fancy, and that's all ;
  By itself it's a fond difficult to read with few letters too deformed in regard of their expected shape, and others too similar (the proportion of the "h", by example, will make it be seen as a "n" by a lot of person, and not only by those with dyslexia). In top of that, the outlining with a color way to near to the one used for the characters make the text even more difficult to read.
• The lighting is too often generic and/or not accurate with the expected light source on the scene ;
  By example, when the MC girl go sexual with the bouncer to enter the club, the lighting come from the top of the door and the neon sign, until she get on her knee. Then a passerby is kind enough to use his flashlight to light her from the side and at her level.
• The dialogs are just generic, there's no life in them ;
  By example, the MC guy is annoyed by the emptiness of his sex life... at least it's what he say, but he never feel it.
• The scene building rely way to much on the thoughts of the characters ;
  It should be shown to us, both in the visual and in the dialogs, not explained. Showing a character thoughts is sometimes unavoidable, but here it's almost half of the text of a scene.
• The character's reaction are not accurate ;
  By example, when the MC girl remember that she was raped while being drunk, she's angry for few seconds, then she stop caring.
• The character's personality is not consistent ;
  By example, when the MC girl have to go sexual with the bouncer, her thoughts are :
  • Being dominated for a change is nice.
  • I am getting so wet... this is so wrong but... Ah...
  • What the... He wants me to...?
  • Shit... should I ? I guess there's no other way.
• Yeah, what the fuck ? She started the whole thing, stroking his cock, but had no idea of where it will lead her, really ? And despite finding nice to be dominated for once, and the whole situation making her wet, she's reluctant to go for it, seriously ?
  And after that, if she decide to have sex in the toilet, she'll once again not care a single second, and even masturbate to it. It's also just now that she think that it's fair since the MC guy cheated first ; this should be her thoughts when she was with the bouncer.
• There's case when the player choice aren't take in count in the dialog, you decide to do "this", but the dialog and thoughts will continue like if you did the other choice ;

It's a game you like, it's a game that isn't too badly done, and it's a game that can be enjoyable. But it's also just an average game, neither bad nor good.
It doesn't mean that nobody should play this game, I play it myself. But it's far to be a game that can compete in term of quality with the top games.




And, as shown above, it's not what I do. For all the games I talk about, I can explain why they are an effective pearl, or why they aren't. And in none of my explanations there will be a reason that rely only on my own taste.




Because it's a good, interesting and enjoyable game. I said it in all the thread he started, and not only in them. Yet, and he know it himself, there's place for improvement and he proved, more than once, that he's improving. The chapter/season 2 represent a big step ahead in term of quality, and this also I said it more than once.


You're judging what we say in the regard of your own taste, then lecture use because we shouldn't use our taste when judging, like if you where knowing for sure what we think about games we not named.

Before you went into your tirade did you actually read what I said or decided to just go off on one? I ask you to read the first sentence of the reply and realise that you didn't read what I wrote as you have completely missed it. I haven't lectured anyone about not using taste, that was you. I actually said taste forms most people's opinions. However you just wanted to go off on one.

 

[anne O'nymous]

I ask you to read the first sentence of the reply and realise that you didn't read what I wrote as you have completely missed it.

Really ? Not even a small doubt that you can, perhaps, who know, be the one that missed something ?

I haven't lectured anyone about not using taste, [...]

Wait a second here. My English not being this good, I'm not sure to understand what's the problem here...

When you write :

"I a couple of the famous games I don't like, but find some hidden gems, pandora's box being one of them, [...] Everyone's tastes are different."

You are saying that we found that the "famous" games are quality games (nobody said "good", nor recommended a game) mostly because we like them, right ?

And when you write :

I think it is a matter of taste. Quality is a perception, it can never be impartial.

You are saying the same thing again, also right ?

Therefore, I fail to see how my :

[...] then lecture use because we shouldn't use our taste when judging, [...]

Isn't an accurate summary of your thought, since you said, twice, that we found that a game is a quality one mostly because we are liking it.
It would perhaps be more understandable with if the "the quality of a game" (after "judging") wasn't implicit due to the context, but that's all.


Oh, and, like I apparently absolutely not understood that you're convinced that people can't put their own taste aside when judging the quality of a game, can you, please, explain me what point(s) exactly in my description of the flaws of Pandora's Box, aren't factual ?

 

[SolarEclipsed]

Oh, and, like I apparently absolutely not understood that you're convinced that people can't put their own taste aside when judging the quality of a game, can you, please, explain me what point(s) exactly in my description of the flaws of Pandora's Box, aren't factual ?

All of them, they are YOUR opinions of Pandora's box, Opinions are not facts, as English is not your first language you couldn't understand what I actually saying. What I was saying originally as a reply to your comment was there a few famous games I don't like, that doesn't detract from their quality or playability to other players, actually agreeing with you. I then used the example of Pandora's box as a game I thought I may not have liked but tried and ended up liking, so to me it was a hidden gem, then I used the example of Call of Duty which is a extremely popular video game that I dislike but other people enjoy. However for what ever reason you seemed to take this as an attack and started an argument.

Also facts are things like 2+2=4, Hydrogen has one proton and 1 electron. Game quality and render quality, are actually opinions, as are story concerns. I have excellent skills at taking my personal feelings away from tasks at hand, however my opinion can and will always affect my opinions on games.

You're judging what we say in the regard of your own taste, then lecture use because we shouldn't use our taste when judging, like if you where knowing for sure what we think about games we not named.

Those are your words and I have already said people will always judge games based on their personal tastes, so yet again you are ranting about something that I have said that I haven't actually said.

 

[Deleted member 167032]

Hey man, how do you find My Girlfriends Amnesia game? I've tried it but i think the RPGM element put me off at the time, still teh girls look hot in your sig...

All of them, they are YOUR opinions of Pandora's box, Opinions are not facts, as English is not your first language you couldn't understand what I actually saying. What I was saying originally as a reply to your comment was there a few famous games I don't like, that doesn't detract from their quality or playability to other players, actually agreeing with you. I then used the example of Pandora's box as a game I thought I may not have liked but tried and ended up liking, so to me it was a hidden gem, then I used the example of Call of Duty which is a extremely popular video game that I dislike but other people enjoy. However for what ever reason you seemed to take this as an attack and started an argument.

Also facts are things like 2+2=4, Hydrogen has one proton and 1 electron. Game quality and render quality, are actually opinions, as are story concerns. I have excellent skills at taking my personal feelings away from tasks at hand, however my opinion can and will always affect my opinions on games.



Those are your words and I have already said people will always judge games based on their personal tastes, so yet again you are ranting about something that I have said that I haven't actually said.

 

[SolarEclipsed]

Hey man, how do you find My Girlfriends Amnesia game? I've tried it but i think the RPGM element put me off at the time, still teh girls look hot in your sig...

Hi, I enjoyed the game, the renders are good, though the sex scenes could have been a little better, the gentleman ending

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there is quite a bit of playability with three different path. The ntr.is quite good if you like that sort of thing and you get warnings about it if not. Someone remade the game in Renp'y so when I got a new computer I downloaded that as I prefer that engine. I think it was a bit underrated it has flaws but the content and about 5 hours of play time for the entire game is good. The only thing is if you do decide to play on RPGM, there is a bug that can just shut the game down so save often is a good thing or you lose all your progress.