Big Rooster

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This is what I was thinking when I asked the question. Ethan is there to be the more reserved sexual being in Nat's life. I don't think she would need a second one. At least not in the routes where she remains on good terms with Ethan.
And she might have a preference for muscular guys as the reason Darrel caught her eye in the opening scene was due to his physique.
Most women admire a great body as well as men do and are drawn to confident men. A simp isn't going to get a gals' panties wet, so to naysayers to Darrel and Matt...
 

Leongen43

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Nat is so attracted to Darrel and Mat because it is clear that he is not used to dealing with men this attractive and that they notice her a lot, that is something that I saw frequently in open and swinger relationships, Ethan does not He can compete with them physically so the only thing left is to improve his charisma so as not to lose Nat.
 

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It doesn't make sense that Nat acts like Ethan is at fault for swinging/cuckoldry in some paths and the dev needs to fix this because it breaks consistency and this has existed for a long time. Let's say Ethan has good relationship with Nat and has a low cuck points but Nat pursued Darrel in the gym. After Nat and Ethan have sex, Ethan can either accept or deny going in cuck path at Nat's request. If Ethan later gets cold feet, Nat acts like it's Ethan's idea all along, and that she would grant Ethan's request but he would make no mention of "his fetish" anymore. To make this easier to see, it's like going to Ethan reluctant path but Ethan accepted instead so Nat is the corrupting force here. The game just blames Ethan for swinging even if it could be Nat's idea or even both of them. I commented about this a long time ago, when the dev is still posting here but it was ignored. I thought he may one day fix this but it seems not.
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There is no distinction if it was Ethan or Nat who got into the idea in the first place. Even if Ethan has low cuck points, the game still acts like Ethan is the perpetrator.
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He only got 7 cuck points. It was Nat's idea, Ethan only went along with it. This would only make sense if it was the reverse: Ethan proposed the idea to Nat and Nat accepted. But this is clearly not the case here.
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It's like... bitch don't gaslight Ethan. It's your damn idea. I understand that all the branching can make the game hard to consistently make but this has existed even on the earliest versions. I'm surprised no one talked about this.
 
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exsomon

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Ethan is cheating nat in one route
even though nat is cheating too
she might seek revenge
does Ethan cheating route go in tandem with nat cheating route?
last entry is black guy fucking her ass i think
 

Leongen43

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It all depends on your decisions, what the relationship between Ethan and Nat will be like, clearly in the bad routes Ethan is the most harmed, that's why the route I like the most is the one where they both cheat in that way neither of them is limited for the other
 

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puha... i normally like ntr games and curvy women but this... is a drag for me... way too much dialogue. nearly no choices for that amount of text and then most are just muscle and black guys... what if you want ntr and/or cuckold but not with muscle/black guys? no content for that yet... rushed through the game and still took me about 15 min... really damn unfortunate...
You might rushed without looking into details, my friend.
If you want Ntr or cuckold without muscle/black guys you could have find it. For example
For NTR we have to wait for further updates regarding Darrel alternatives.
Actually there is! (only a bj for Darrel on this path is unavoidable)
Follow cuckold path -> cuckold yes job -> Nat reluctant Carl
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Big Rooster

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It doesn't make sense that Nat acts like Ethan is at fault for swinging/cuckoldry in some paths and the dev needs to fix this because it breaks consistency and this has existed for a long time. Let's say Ethan has good relationship with Nat and has a low cuck points but Nat pursued Darrel in the gym. After Nat and Ethan have sex, Ethan can either accept or deny going in cuck path at Nat's request. If Ethan later gets cold feet, Nat acts like it's Ethan's idea all along, and that she would grant Ethan's request but he would make no mention of "his fetish" anymore. To make this easier to see, it's like going to Ethan reluctant path but Ethan accepted instead so Nat is the corrupting force here. The game just blames Ethan for swinging even if it could be Nat's idea or even both of them. I commented about this a long time ago, when the dev is still posting here but it was ignored. I thought he may one day fix this but it seems not.

There is no distinction if it was Ethan or Nat who got into the idea in the first place. Even if Ethan has low cuck points, the game still acts like Ethan is the perpetrator.

He only got 7 cuck points. It was Nat's idea, Ethan only went along with it. This would only make sense if it was the reverse: Ethan proposed the idea to Nat and Nat accepted. But this is clearly not the case here.

It's like... bitch don't gaslight Ethan. It's your damn idea. I understand that all the branching can make the game hard to consistently make but this has existed even on the earliest versions. I'm surprised no one talked about this.
Some of the different paths don't intersect well, but IMO for the most part it seems that we have to forgive some inconsistencies in the coding of the game, it's like some spelling or grammar mistakes. In some sense, this game doesn't make sense 100% of the time, like real life, and trying to find any logic in a womans thinking.... :rolleyes:
 
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Now say it without crying hahaha

If after almost 2 months there is no solid update, with Nat who is the protagonist being fucked, for me, the game loses its essence, nobody wants to see other people fucking other than Nat or the husband

hot scenes without sex? I don't think about it that way, but unlike you, I do respect the thoughts of others, everyone has their own taste, just because I think differently doesn't mean it's wrong.
Thank God I'm not a patron of this game, I waited practically 2 months for an update
that it is about a kiss, and a vaginal touch, what a bad man jajaja
^Seems to me you are the one crying about it. But I can understand that a hot scene to you must involve sex in some form and that after 2 months this felt like a shitty tease at best with minor story development. I get it, for a 2 month update this was a let down. Striking a balance between story development and "hot-scenes" is important though.
If you neglect the story everything will start to feel meaningless, and if you neglect the "hot-scenes", whatever that means to you, it will start to feel boring and stagnant.
 
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Nat could coach Carl on what women want without banging him.
And by coaching him you mean teaching him how to be a cuck. :devilish:

It's like... bitch don't gaslight Ethan. It's your damn idea. I understand that all the branching can make the game hard to consistently make but this has existed even on the earliest versions. I'm surprised no one talked about this.
In every path I've played it's clearly Ethan's idea to get into cuckolding and he actively pushes Nat and tries to encourage her.
So I don't know what path you are playing, the vanilla one?
 

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In every path I've played it's clearly Ethan's idea to get into cuckolding and he actively pushes Nat and tries to encourage her.
So I don't know what path you are playing, the vanilla one?
There is a route where the text changes and makes Natalie sound like she is encouraging Ethan to be a cuckold.
I thought I had played all the routes but I have never seen the scene where she gets mad at him for having the cuckold fantasy. What route is that?
 

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It is the route where they both cheat and in a conversation Nat asks Ethan to confess that he was unfaithful and if he does it as punishment he becomes a submissive cuckold, if I am a cincero it seems hypocritical and low on Nat's part since it was her who pushes Ethan to cheat to feel free to have sex with Darrel
 

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It is the route where they both cheat and in a conversation Nat asks Ethan to confess that he was unfaithful and if he does it as punishment he becomes a submissive cuckold, if I am a cincero it seems hypocritical and low on Nat's part since it was her who pushes Ethan to cheat to feel free to have sex with Darrel
Yes, setting him up with Jenna. Shitty move for a loving wife who just wants to fuck someone else!
 

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In that route it is true because even if I reject Jenna and Nat regrets what she was going to do, it is rubbish that a wife who says she loves you seeks to dynamite her marriage for her personal satisfaction.
Yeah it was pretty bad and that pretty much should have been the end of that relationship. There is no coming back from that shit.
 

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There is a route where the text changes and makes Natalie sound like she is encouraging Ethan to be a cuckold.
I thought I had played all the routes but I have never seen the scene where she gets mad at him for having the cuckold fantasy. What route is that?
From what I remember, on any path where Ethan is the instigator of his cuckolding fantasy she will get mad and ask him to never bring it up again if you decide to stop it.
Don't remember exactly where you had the choice, but probably before she is about to go on a date with darrel. Might also be other moments where you can change paths and stop it but I don't remember.
Not sure what happens after, if you do decide to stop it, probably just defaults back to vanilla sharing route I guess.
 
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Some of the different paths don't intersect well, but IMO for the most part it seems that we have to forgive some inconsistencies in the coding of the game, it's like some spelling or grammar mistakes. In some sense, this game doesn't make sense 100% of the time, like real life, and trying to find any logic in a womans thinking.... :rolleyes:
Yeah it's fine to have a few inconsistencies. The author has already made a good job of creating a game that actually feels like your choices matter and have different consequences. Most games in this site are so one dimensional. The "options" you have in those are really just 'do you want to see sex scene or just skip' and the plot continues with little changes. Others have predetermined few number of branches that don't interact well and your choices don't really impact them, only your initial choices that would point to those rigid branches matter, future choices are just flavor that don't add to the 'action-consequence' aspect of the game narrative. This game is one of the few ones where your choices interact with one another and there could be different consequences from different combinations of actions. Not to mention this game has more depth than most others. I just find it odd that this inconsistent path is so early in the game but nobody seemed to notice it. But I can see that all the branching is going to be a headache for the author in the future as the game develops and more branching occurs. The other games that have this much depth and choice interactivity also face the same problem. It's like a blessing with a caveat. It's a blessing that a game is able to achieve giving players with many choices that really have an impact in the narrative but if you want to see a certain path develop further, you're going to wait for a long time because other paths have to develop too. This can be seen in the vanilla and Peter content. So many people here nag about having more Peter. But I personally want to see other characters more than this old man (in fact I see it as a win if an update focuses on other characters and not on Peter. Don't put me in a stake for saying this). It's also a little sad that the vanilla path isn't developed too well and doesn't have unique scenes. I guess people just aren't that excited on the vanilla path so it just keeps getting shoved.
As a side note, I actually like this update. Having more Matt and Carl content is a big plus. It's not cocks and dicks all the time and this actually sets up and spices future Matt and Carl content.
 

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This is a poll to choose Nat's dress to attend the college party with Matt. The writing will change according to the selected dress.
Dress 1
A dress close to a cheerleading outfit with a stylish top, short pleated skirt and converse shoes. Nat will try to look younger to blend into the college crowd and compete with the younger competition on equal grounds.



Dress 2

A dress of a more mature taste with a leather corset top, a tight short skirt with a deep slit that goes almost up to her hips and matching heels. Nat will try to look apart from her younger competition and try to capitalize on her mature looks and personality.
 
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