Brokebacker

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I honestly prefer the idea of nat being a "perfect" wife and she goes along with his fetish purely to get her husband off, like she gets off and the sex is good but what made it good for her was seeing how her husband got off to it, and either the moment he feels done she stops because the whole point was to please her husband
It was pretty hard to read your wall of text, consider using paragraphs when writing such lengthy posts. I did glance through it though and this part stuck out to me. Goes back to my point I made earlier regarding looking to Nat expecting her to be some selfless beacon of morality living purely for Ethan's carnal pleasures.

Yes, this started off as her indulging her husbands fantasies but it also awoke something within herself that she never knew was there. Expecting this drastic change in lifestyle to not change them is a bit naive, and it would also make for very boring writing if the characters don't have some inner conflict with regards to their own desires and what to do with them.

This is like a sexual revolution for Nat, going from being the "perfect" wife, whatever that means, to fucking hung men left and right. Honestly if Nat was the "perfect" wife you are advocating for, god what a boring character that would be, and unrealistic too under these circumstances. Expecting these experiences she is having to not change her in anyway shape or form is silly and show a lack of character progression, stale. Clearly she never knew herself as well as she thought, at least not when it comes to her sexual desires. And I think you are looking at Nat with rose-colored glasses.

Also you said yourself that you knew the genre that the developer is catering to by judging his previous work, so why would you expect something different? Do you expect pizza when ordering hamburgers? And why are you playing the route that is specifically supposed to cater to that audience, I really don't get it...

And my biggest complaint about this game has always been a lack of Nat's inner thoughts, I know that Ethan is the primary perspective and that's fine. But it's a duet, so I wanna see Nat's inner workings as well. Otherwise her actions and behavior will feel out of touch and almost NPC-like. She feels less human. If we got a clearer understanding of her internal struggles and reasoning, then when she does something that might feel out of line we can at least see where it came from, whether you agree with her actions or not.

But unlike you I don't expect Nat to be a saint so it bothers me a lot less. But for you, as someone who looks to her like the "perfect" wife I can understand the frustration when it comes to her behavior, would a clearer understanding of her thoughts/reasoning make it any better? Or do you really just want her to be the perfect angel for Ethan? Cause that would be very boring, and predictable from a writers standpoint. :sleep:
 
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Leongen43

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The thing about damaging Nat's reputation is something I know because I saw it where I work, in the minds of these people we are units that they use or stop using when they are fired, when she resigns she goes against the rules and is punished for giving example to the other employees so that they understand that they do not have the right to resign that they can only leave if they are fired, and if she had strategic knowledge of the company she would have had to sign a confidentiality contract
 

Big Rooster

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The thing about damaging Nat's reputation is something I know because I saw it where I work, in the minds of these people we are units that they use or stop using when they are fired, when she resigns she goes against the rules and is punished for giving example to the other employees so that they understand that they do not have the right to resign that they can only leave if they are fired, and if she had strategic knowledge of the company she would have had to sign a confidentiality contract
lawyers call it an NDA [non-disclosure agreement] in the US.
 

Leongen43

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Yes I know but I chose to write the full name before someone asks me what the Initials means.
They don't feel like they missed an opportunity to create a route where Nat had a dominant boss where Nat had to have submissive sex in exchange for the promotion she wanted and if she refused we would have seen the scene that happens in this update, what kind of hot sex scenes would we have had? :unsure:
 

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It was pretty hard to read your wall of text, consider using paragraphs when writing such lengthy posts. I did glance through it though and this part stuck out to me. Goes back to my point I made earlier regarding looking to Nat expecting her to be some selfless beacon of morality living purely for Ethan's carnal pleasures.

Yes, this started off as her indulging her husbands fantasies but it also awoke something within herself that she never knew was there. Expecting this drastic change in lifestyle to not change them is a bit naive, and it would also make for very boring writing if the characters don't have some inner conflict with regards to their own desires and what to do with them.

This is like a sexual revolution for Nat, going from being the "perfect" wife, whatever that means, to fucking hung men left and right. Honestly if Nat was the "perfect" wife you are advocating for, god what a boring character that would be, and unrealistic too under these circumstances. Expecting these experiences she is having to not change her in anyway shape or form is silly and show a lack of character progression, stale. Clearly she never knew herself as well as she thought, at least not when it comes to her sexual desires. And I think you are looking at Nat with rose-colored glasses.

Also you said yourself that you knew the genre that the developer is catering to by judging his previous work, so why would you expect something different? Do you expect pizza when ordering hamburgers? And why are you playing the route that is specifically supposed to cater to that audience, I really don't get it...

And my biggest complaint about this game has always been a lack of Nat's inner thoughts, I know that Ethan is the primary perspective and that's fine. But it's a duet, so I wanna see Nat's inner workings as well. Otherwise her actions and behavior will feel out of touch and almost NPC-like. She feels less human. If we got a clearer understanding of her internal struggles and reasoning, then when she does something that might feel out of line we can at least see where it came from, whether you agree with her actions or not.

But unlike you I don't expect Nat to be a saint so it bothers me a lot less. But for you, as someone who looks to her like the "perfect" wife I can understand the frustration when it comes to her behavior, would a clearer understanding of her thoughts/reasoning make it any better? Or do you really just want her to be the perfect angel for Ethan? Cause that would be very boring, and predictable from a writers standpoint. :sleep:
Very well put, I concur wholeheartedly with your analysis: a Nat that functions only as a vessel of Ethan’s desires and without his inputs defaults to an ideal almost robotic state of “perfect wife” incapable of any evolution, would be -imho- a very poorly written and boring character. That kind of sexy Stepford wife probably is a great fetish for some (nothing wrong with it, to each their own), but personally I find it unrealistic and limited.

Regarding Nat’s mental process I think that curiously we got to see more of her inner thoughts and personal opinions and development at the start of the game, but it’s true that the writing might be lacking something in that department as of late. And that translates even to the sex scenes, Nat never was very vocal during sex to begin with, but one would say that a woman who is going through this kind of sexual awakening (even in the more “tamed” routes like the vanilla exhibitionist one) would lose some shyness along the road.
 
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The thing about damaging Nat's reputation is something I know because I saw it where I work, in the minds of these people we are units that they use or stop using when they are fired, when she resigns she goes against the rules and is punished for giving example to the other employees so that they understand that they do not have the right to resign that they can only leave if they are fired, and if she had strategic knowledge of the company she would have had to sign a confidentiality contract
It's easy getting fired, like for a women, go in to work with hairy legs and armpits and all hangovered and have three year old apply her make up, easy.
 

Leongen43

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It's a shame that King B hasn't made a Halloween special. I would have liked to see a story where Ethan takes a substance to increase his penis size. Although he is successful, it had a side effect that transforms him into a monster and he starts kidnapping women. to have sex, will Darrel fight him to show that no one competes with the monster between his legs? :unsure:
 

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It's a shame that King B hasn't made a Halloween special. I would have liked to see a story where Ethan takes a substance to increase his penis size. Although he is successful, it had a side effect that transforms him into a monster and he starts kidnapping women. to have sex, will Darrel fight him to show that no one competes with the monster between his legs? :unsure:
That would be a pretty cool story. Get to work Leongen and make a fan mod for us all!
 

Leongen43

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I don't know how to do it, the one who has the talent is Big Rooster, he has very good quality designs you should see it if you haven't, mine is repairing games and modifying graphics engines
Grumpy I missed you where were you what other forum are you on now?
 
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Grumpy Old Aussie

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I don't know how to do it, the one who has the talent is Big Rooster, he has very good quality designs you should see it if you haven't, mine is repairing games and modifying graphics engines
Grumpy I missed you where were you what other forum are you on now?
Sorry mate, I have been a bit AWOL of late. I didn't want to concern you. I had surgery today and I haven't been posting much leading up to it. I had a few complications but I'm good. I'm out of hospital and on bedrest for the rest of the week so I'll be around to terrorise you again :LOL:
 

DIRTY FILTHY Animal

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I don't know how to do it, the one who has the talent is Big Rooster, he has very good quality designs you should see it if you haven't, mine is repairing games and modifying graphics engines
Grumpy I missed you where were you what other forum are you on now?
Well I’m pretty sure he lives in the “Another man’s wife” thread :ROFLMAO:
 
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