Ren'Py A Family Venture [v0.09 V1 Beta] [WillTylor]

[strenif]

Considering Ryan's massive dick, if she was a virgin he'd kill her the first time they had sex.
I 'think' the idea was she was she had worked up to that size so her first time with Ryan wouldn't be incredibly painful. There's also the whole incest angle of both sharing a dildo with her mom and having that dildo be a replica of her fathers dick.

 

[MaxTheDark]

Considering Ryan's massive dick, if she was a virgin he'd kill her the first time they had sex.
I 'think' the idea was she was she had worked up to that size so her first time with Ryan wouldn't be incredibly painful. There's also the whole incest angle of both sharing a dildo with her mom and having that dildo be a replica of her fathers dick.

Now that you mention it, the amount of time characters complement on MC's dick size suggests the dev might be compensating for something...

 

[clowns234]

Now that you mention it, the amount of time characters complement on MC's dick size suggests the dev might be compensating for something...

Says the guy who is triggered over a pretend girl not having a hymen.
LOL

 

[MaxTheDark]

Says the guy who is triggered over a pretend girl not having a hymen.
LOL

Just to clarify, I don't care if she's a virgin or not, just that it's an inconsistency in this whole trainwreck.

 

[clowns234]

Just to clarify, I don't care if she's a virgin or not, just that it's an inconsistency in this whole trainwreck.

Like many things, it comes down to interpretation, and since he's the dev, his is what counts. Making personal insults doesn't change that. My opinion.

 

[strenif]

Not sure what inconsistent about a girl using a dildo being a virgin? Girls lose their hymen horseback riding or in gymnastics. Being a virgin means you havn't had sex not that you have a hymen.
Also not sure why you feel the need to toss out insults at every turn.
Perhaps you'd find a different game more to your liking?

 

[MaxTheDark]

I did not mean to be insulting, I may have went too far. It is however striking to me that every woman who sees MCs dick has to mention it's size. Mary Sue much?

And yeah, I guess it is down to interpretation. I just think not making her a virgin would be simpler.

 

[Trikus]

I did not mean to be insulting, I may have went too far. It is however striking to me that every woman who sees MCs dick has to mention it's size. Mary Sue much?

And yeah, I guess it is down to interpretation. I just think not making her a virgin would be simpler.

Umm... how does that make a character a Mary Sue? Do you even know what that term means? So many people throw that term out without even knowing the definition. Also, again with the hymen? Women can lose their hymen in ways other than sexual penetration. You should have paid more attention in sex ed.

 

[WillTylor]

Whoa!... for some reason I stopped receiving notifications for this thread again, so I thought the conversation had died about four pages back. Thanks MaxTheDark for the well thought out criticisms, and for everyone else who like the game enough to defend my crappy writing. Some good points were made, and I don't mind hearing players complain about what in the game drives them crazy. I've actually changed quite a few things in the game due to players criticisms that I thought were really valid, so nobody needs to worry about offending me, I mean, as long as you're not just being a total dick. Yeah, I acknowledge that I'm not a great writer, or developer. I just started making this game as a hobby because I love adult games, and I thought it would be something I'd enjoy. I actually really enjoy it, and I feel really lucky that others do to, because I know there are some incredible developers out there that leave me in awe at the amazing content they put out, and I just feel lucky that anyone gives my game any attention. I'm just enjoying the learning process. I'm getting better at my renders, at animating, at coding, I'm not so sure about my writing though. The game has improved a lot from what it was because of other's ideas and suggestions.

So when is the next update going to be done? The good news is that the renders are done, and the writing is going forward at a respectable pace again. I had a lot of chaos in my life recently, but that is starting to calm down and I'm getting more time to work on the game again. So, I'd say the update is at about 80%, and as long as things keep getting better, or at least don't get worse, that last 20% should go pretty fast. I'm sorry I can't put that in terms of "time till completion", but I've found that's a dangerous game. I mean I honestly thought I'd have this update out before the end of 2021. Se la vie, I guess. I do give this game all the time I possibly can. Not just because I feel a responsibility to the game's supporters, but also because it's my hobby, and I enjoy working on this crazy mess.

Anyways, I love to hear from you all on how you're liking the game. So, keep the love coming, keep the criticism coming, and I'll do my best to read it all and respond when I can. And, just thank you all for taking the time to play AFV!

 

[thealucid]

Whoa!... for some reason I stopped receiving notifications for this thread again, so I thought the conversation had died about four pages back. Thanks MaxTheDark for the well thought out criticisms, and for everyone else who like the game enough to defend my crappy writing. Some good points were made, and I don't mind hearing players complain about what in the game drives them crazy. I've actually changed quite a few things in the game due to players criticisms that I thought were really valid, so nobody needs to worry about offending me, I mean, as long as you're not just being a total dick. Yeah, I acknowledge that I'm not a great writer, or developer. I just started making this game as a hobby because I love adult games, and I thought it would be something I'd enjoy. I actually really enjoy it, and I feel really lucky that others do to, because I know there are some incredible developers out there that leave me in awe at the amazing content they put out, and I just feel lucky that anyone gives my game any attention. I'm just enjoying the learning process. I'm getting better at my renders, at animating, at coding, I'm not so sure about my writing though. The game has improved a lot from what it was because of other's ideas and suggestions.

So when is the next update going to be done? The good news is that the renders are done, and the writing is going forward at a respectable pace again. I had a lot of chaos in my life recently, but that is starting to calm down and I'm getting more time to work on the game again. So, I'd say the update is at about 80%, and as long as things keep getting better, or at least don't get worse, that last 20% should go pretty fast. I'm sorry I can't put that in terms of "time till completion", but I've found that's a dangerous game. I mean I honestly thought I'd have this update out before the end of 2021. Se la vie, I guess. I do give this game all the time I possibly can. Not just because I feel a responsibility to the game's supporters, but also because it's my hobby, and I enjoy working on this crazy mess.

Anyways, I love to hear from you all on how you're liking the game. So, keep the love coming, keep the criticism coming, and I'll do my best to read it all and respond when I can. And, just thank you all for taking the time to play AFV!

HEY, PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST,
OVER HERE!

*Looks around nervously*

I've heard the secret to Pulitzer Prize level writing material is to have a couple impregnation sex scenes with the mom explicitly goading the MC into cumming inside with the intent to knock her up! So, if you were thinking of doing pregnancy, weren't planning on doing a scene like that already, and want that Nobel Prize in Literature, I'd do something like that to get that National Book Prize!

Just think, that Neustadt International Prize for Literature could be yours!

 

[Don61a]

Thank you for the post WillTaylor - and look forward to the next update.

On another front - had to top supporting you via Patreon due always having to go thur a verification check to my eamil that never worked and my bank flagging the charge everytime it was sent.

Are there other options to supporting your work ?

 

[strenif]

Thank you for the post WillTaylor - and look forward to the next update.

On another front - had to top supporting you via Patreon due always having to go thur a verification check to my eamil that never worked and my bank flagging the charge everytime it was sent.

Are there other options to supporting your work ?

He has a

You must be registered to see the links

page if you want to support there.
The nice thing about SS is they don't censor his game so he can leave the incest content in and you won't have to patch the game.

 

[MaxTheDark]

Umm... how does that make a character a Mary Sue? Do you even know what that term means? So many people throw that term out without even knowing the definition. Also, again with the hymen? Women can lose their hymen in ways other than sexual penetration. You should have paid more attention in sex ed.

Mary Sue because:
1. He achieves everything he tries
2. Everyone just gives him stuff
3. Everyone complements him all the time.
4. Everything turns out great for him

The virgin thing... Yes, I get that. I'm starting to regret mentioning it. It's just in everyone's perception, virgin = hymen. If there is no hymen, there is no real proof the girl is virgin. Does it matter? Fuck no. Which is why I just made a comment about it. Did not expect everyone to start harping on it so much.

WillTylor I really appreciate your position. I just want to point out, despite all I've said about your game, I am still playing it because your graphic design skills are really, really good. There's just one thing I don't think I mentioned, if a girl sleeps through having a finger shoved up her ass, a pinch in the shoulder is unlikely to wake her up. And one final word on the writing, it just feel like The Rise of Skywalker: things happen not because they logically should, but because the writer wants them to happen. But again, your art is good enough to consider it worth it

Oh, one more thing, some references to other porn games - like the magnificent Man of the House - are fine, but when you keep bringing up Renpy games and that... It's immersion breaking, you know.

 

[AMUR48]

 

[thealucid]

Mary Sue because:
1. He achieves everything he tries
2. Everyone just gives him stuff
3. Everyone complements him all the time.
4. Everything turns out great for him

The virgin thing... Yes, I get that. I'm starting to regret mentioning it. It's just in everyone's perception, virgin = hymen. If there is no hymen, there is no real proof the girl is virgin. Does it matter? Fuck no. Which is why I just made a comment about it. Did not expect everyone to start harping on it so much.

WillTylor I really appreciate your position. I just want to point out, despite all I've said about your game, I am still playing it because your graphic design skills are really, really good. There's just one thing I don't think I mentioned, if a girl sleeps through having a finger shoved up her ass, a pinch in the shoulder is unlikely to wake her up. And one final word on the writing, it just feel like The Rise of Skywalker: things happen not because they logically should, but because the writer wants them to happen. But again, your art is good enough to consider it worth it

Oh, one more thing, some references to other porn games - like the magnificent Man of the House - are fine, but when you keep bringing up Renpy games and that... It's immersion breaking, you know.

It's a porn game dude, the raison d'être of the entire in-game universe is to deliver us steamy sex scenes. While that doesn't mean you can't have realistic depictions, it does mean realism takes a back seat to whatever is hot.

To use a rough analogy, you don't exactly expect a riveting autobiography when you open a biology textbook- do you? No, because the purpose of a biology textbook is to teach you biology. Likewise, the purpose of these porn games is to give us a good time jacking off.

On that note, I'd say WillTylor is easily in the top 10%, if not 5%, of writers for porn games on f95zone.

 

[WillTylor]

Thank you for the post WillTaylor - and look forward to the next update.

On another front - had to top supporting you via Patreon due always having to go thur a verification check to my eamil that never worked and my bank flagging the charge everytime it was sent.

Are there other options to supporting your work ?

Thanks for all the past support! As Strenif mentioned, there is also my SubscribeStar page, but it is possible that your bank will flag the charge every time as well, in fact I think I see banks flag SS way more than Patreon. So here on F95 there's a buy me a coffee link on all my posts. I believe the payment goes through paypal, so if you want to support through that, just send me a message and keep in touch with me on Discord and I'll make sure you get all the benefits of a patreon or SS supporter.

 

[clowns234]

Thanks for all the past support! As Strenif mentioned, there is also my SubscribeStar page, but it is possible that your bank will flag the charge every time as well, in fact I think I see banks flag SS way more than Patreon. So here on F95 there's a buy me a coffee link on all my posts. I believe the payment goes through paypal, so if you want to support through that, just send me a message and keep in touch with me on Discord and I'll make sure you get all the benefits of a patreon or SS supporter.

Visa gift cards work for SS, at least here in the U.S.

 

[WillTylor]

Mary Sue because:
1. He achieves everything he tries
2. Everyone just gives him stuff
3. Everyone complements him all the time.
4. Everything turns out great for him

Just to highlight my lack of writing experience, I had never heard the term "Mary Sue" before. I looked it up, and had a pretty good laugh at the referenced star trek story where the term was coined. So, thanks for helping me get educated about that particular term. And, you're right. The MC is a bit of a Mary Sue, but I've got to argue that he's not completely. I did bake some consequences into the game for making the wrong/right choice (depending on your preferences). All of the consequences in the game result in NTR scenarios, and while they aren't fleshed out very far yet, they will be developed more in the future. While most of the choices are obvious, I did try to have a few choices in the game not be too obvious as to what the right choice is, just to try and bring a hair of realism into the game. But for sure, if you make all the right choices, the MC's journey to this point makes him kind of a Mary Sue, but I don't think that will continue in the future as the MC starts making moves to get out from under the Mafia.

 

[clowns234]

All of the consequences in the game result in NTR scenarios

Is that what you really meant? All consequences 'could' result in an NTR scenario, maybe?

 

[WillTylor]

Is that what you really meant? All consequences 'could' result in an NTR scenario, maybe?

Haha… No, sorry. Most major decisions will have a (good) loyalty consequence, or a (bad) NTR consequence. I have no intention of bating everyone into a mandatory NTR path or ending.