Awesome Ripson ! (im)Patiently waiting for your update!
Well, I'm not quitting the game over one uncomfortable scene. I'll definitely give HT the benefit of the doubt at least once because the story up until now has been so good. But while saying it was a tonal "180°" was obviously a bit of exaggeration-for-effect (AFAIK Ethan Krautz has NOT taken over the game
), the scene still made me uncomfortable enough to mention it because I am hoping not to feel that uncomfortable again in the next update. "Once is an accident..." but if it becomes a trend then it would drive me away.
i was puzzled about that too.. choose not to sleep with her but in a flashback the group heard them all standing in the corridor blushing. i played with urm and there were no scene indicator that this scene was behind som choice. so it could just be an error/oversight but so far it seems from the interactions that the wife indeed will be forced (what is a shame when everything esle seems choice dependet)
It's an error/oversight. Will be fixed with the next update
Thanks. I skipped through the scene, and I can see how people can read it as MC coercing Tracy into having sex. I'm still thinking about it, so this might change, but I don't believe I got this scene wrong.
I think it would be fine if you give all players the option to stop and wait for the evening at home. 'Sensitive' players would feel more comfortable with how it plays out, and if Tracy truly wanted to have sex on the showers she will get another lesson on how she needs to be more assertive around the MC.
I never meant that I thought you got it "wrong" per se - it's your game, after all, so it's completely your business how you write your story. I just wanted to point out how that scene came across to me - intentionally or unintentionally. Going through it again after reading your reply it didn't feel quite as exploitative, knowing it hadn't been written that way on purpose. But when I played it the first time not knowing your intent, it definitely felt a bit 'icky,' for lack of a better word.
I do disagree with you there based on your own subsequent dialogue:
And that's all fair. But don't forget, as the writer you know what's in her mind but unspoken; as players we do not, and having her find a way to communicate (to the player as well as the MC) what she is thinking - non-verbally if she actually can't say it out loud - would go a long way to making that sequence less uncomfortable (IMHO). But TBH, (again IMHO) with players not knowing Tracy's internal thoughts these later pieces of dialogue sound like they came right out of the pedophile/rapist handbook:
).And that's why I'm still here and looking forward to the next update - you DO have a track record, so as I said in a later post I'm not going anywhere yet.
And I'm glad to hear there is no outside pressure to turn things darker. I mean, obv that would be your prerogative and always will be, it just wouldn't be my cup of tea.Well, whether I would like it or not is not super relevant, since I am just a drop in the ocean of individual opinions. But I hope it would be with an LI that he at least subconsciously knows could handle it and NOT one of the more fragile ones... If that's the case & he is called out for it (or even better realizes what he did on his own pretty quickly and apologizes without being made to) then it wouldn't be as bad. But yeah, if he is rough with one of the fragile ones I would certainly not enjoy that at all, even with an apology after-the-fact. Being angry is one thing, but they are not strangers at this point, so there would be no excuse for at least not directing that anger away from the more vulnerable characters.
I don't think that is necessary since that wasn't the intent. But I would say that I can't be sure as a player whether she was indeed fine with it or glad that he took charge. I think you know that because you write her character and know what she's thinking inside her head and if she means exactly what she says when she says something. As players we don't know those things, so if something is textually ambiguous than different players will read it different ways. Since she (and the others) have been presented to us players as abused and oppressed for their entire lives until this one week, it is really hard for us players to make those assumptions because we are not inside her head alongside you.
The one who does the mod has not been on here since 31 March. So who knows when it will be updated.
Ripson doesn't stay on here constantly. But he knows when games are updated and he will update his mod when he, 1} has the time, and 2} after getting the notification. I do believe someone has already said it. But I will as well. Ripson, the game has been updated to 6.5. We await your update, if it is needed. Thanks!
