A gay element in netorare

[desmosome]

Base NTR isn't gay, but gayish things can be incorporated. The most obvious one being sissification. Western cuckoldry fetish tends to have more gayish vibes with lapping up the bull's cum from her pussy and shit like that. Japanese NTR is more about the girl getting corrupted behind her partner's back.

 

[eaudecologne]

Indeed, a narrative progression that's almost never seen in NTR games is the cuckold boyfriend becoming fascinated with the rival bull's dominance and ending up falling in love, getting transformed into a beautiful, effeminate sissy as a way to catch the 'bull's' attention and keep living with the stolen girlfriend. I hope it becomes a trend!

What getting no pussy does to a mf

 

[hoochimama]

Another one of these.

For the NTR fans who think it is clearly not gay at all... Sell it to us as "Not Gay" as best you can. We are listening.

It would still be NTR if MC's wife got raped and killed by an amorphous alien blob.

In porn, things are often not what they seem.

For example, porn featuring black men fucking white women seems to be favored by white supremacist types. It's a kind of reversal. It's racist as fuck.
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But also the implications of what you see: the evil black man ruining the pretty white girl. This is the white supremacy take. If a white supremacist finds this arousing, I think that is also gay to a certain extent, because it focusses on the male, rather than on the female.

It's yet another weird fetish...

I think you're missing some of the uglier parts of the picture.
If nazis/racists view a given ethnicity or other ethnicities as less than human, then isn't it likely they view sex with them as inherently dirtier and more taboo/shocking, as something closer to beastiality?

If a guy watches a video of a beautiful lingerie model getting fucked by a boar, are you really going to assume the guy has the hots for Porky Pig?

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means you're gay for Santa?

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you have a thing for ugly hobos?

The very second post in this thread already pointed out the absurdity of it.

 

[EvilLadyKitten]

Another one of these.


It would still be NTR if MC's wife got raped and killed by an amorphous alien blob.


I think you're missing some of the uglier parts of the picture. If nazis/racists view a given ethnicity or other ethnicities as less than human, then isn't it possible they might view sex with them as inherently dirtier and more taboo/shocking, as something closer to beastiality?

If a guy watches a video of a beautiful lingerie model getting fucked by a boar, are you really going to assume the guy has the hots for Porky Pig?

Who am I to judge, as long as the piggy consents lol, now seriously you people do a thousand gymnastics just to justify going against your Bi desires, it's sad some Ntr fans will never live to their full potential with their pretty dick cages and being railed properly

 

[Zakharova]

People talk about homosexuality as if it were some kind of depraved, degenerate collective outbreak that started in the last century, when in reality it's just another type of sexual behavior that's been present in different societies for millennia.


For illustrative purposes, here's Antinous, one of the oldest femboys in history:

 

[hoochimama]

Base NTR isn't gay, but gayish things can be incorporated. The most obvious one being sissification.

Short of a gun to the MC's head that's a NTS/netorase scenario or MC, not a NTR/netorare one.

And that's the problem with most NTR-labelled games and discussions here, the devs and the posters often don't even understand the difference or pretend not to (made worse on f95 by the NTR/netorare tag also being allowed for NTS/netorase and NTI/netori games), but as soon as you introduce nts-ish elements in a NTR scenario or path, the NTR fan is turned off. Can't relate to the MC anymore.

NTR scenarios will typically end when the NTR is finally revealed to the MC. The MC may or may not brutalize those who hurt him, but he's not going to stick around for round 2.

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[eaudecologne]

Who am I to judge, as long as the piggy consents lol, now seriously you people do a thousand gymnastics just to justify going against your Bi desires, it's sad some Ntr fans will never live to their full potential with their pretty dick cages and being railed properly

Are you a real Evil Lady Kitten?

 

[Zakharova]

If a guy watches a video of a beautiful lingerie model getting fucked by a boar, are you really going to assume the guy has the hots for Porky Pig?

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means you're gay for Santa?

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you have a thing for ugly hobos?

The very second post in this thread already pointed out the absurdity of it.

Well, I don't understand the mindset of someone who likes 'bestiality'... but...!

... But... in an erotic scenario, you usually need something beyond just the feminine aspect to generate arousal... otherwise, the most-watched porn videos would be women doing solo performances...

....That said, it's fair to say that in a way, the male character who completes the scene (some creepy old perv or a homeless bum) plays an active role in providing excitement to the person watching, which means we can argue that to a certain degree, someone who seeks out a specific site where women fuck creepy old pervs also gets turned on by the creepy old perv himself...!

 

[eaudecologne]

Well, I don't understand the mindset of someone who likes 'bestiality'... but...!

... But... in an erotic scenario, you usually need something beyond just the feminine aspect to generate arousal... otherwise, the most-watched porn videos would be women doing solo performances...

....That said, it's fair to say that in a way, the male character who completes the scene (some creepy old perv or a homeless bum) plays an active role in providing excitement to the person watching, which means we can argue that to a certain degree, someone who seeks out a specific site where women fuck creepy old pervs also gets turned on by the creepy old perv himself...!

I think it all just comes from guys not being able to get some pussy irl

 

[zilkin]

Well yeah but it's not really gay is it? Like the bull isn't into the guy, he's hard because of the woman and the cuck just happens to suck him off a little bit because the gf says so I think. Or like cleaning up the woman's pussy after sex, is that gay?

It's very gay... it's even more gay than if they just fucked lol.

 

[eaudecologne]

It's very gay... it's even more gay than if they just fucked lol.

That's a hot take man. So actual gays are not gay? you're really thinking outside the box rn bro

 

[Zakharova]

It's very gay... it's even more gay than if they just fucked lol.

So, are there levels of gayness? Can you be more or less gay according to the requirements of a scale of queerness? That sounds like postmodern nonsense.

 

[eaudecologne]

So, are there levels of gayness? Can you be more or less gay according to the requirements of a scale of queerness? That sounds like postmodern nonsense.

Yeah a cuck cleaning up a woman's pussy is a level 1 gay. A femboy could be a level 10. And a hairy, muscly guy level 30. Someone do the calculations where futa enjoyers place

 

[desmosome]

Short of a gun to the MC's head that's a NTS scenario/MC, not a NTR one.

And that's the problem with most NTR-labelled games and discussions here, the devs and the posters often don't even understand the difference or pretend not to (made worse on f95 by the netorare tag also being allowed for netorase and netori games), but as soon as you introduce nts-ish elements in a NTR scenario or path, the NTR fan is turned off. Can't relate to the MC anymore.

NTR scenarios will typically end when the NTR is finally revealed to the MC. The MC may or may not brutalize those who hurt him, but he's not going to stick around for round 2.

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Cuckoldry is NTS, yeah. But NTR has two meanings. The specific netorare, and the broad NTR umbrella (netori, netorare, netorase). So it's kind of a lost cause trying to get everyone on the same page because everyone got their own idea on what NTR is.

 

[EvilLadyKitten]

Cuckoldry is NTS, yeah. But NTR has two meanings. The specific netorare, and the broad NTR umbrella (netori, netorare, netorase). So it's kind of a lost cause trying to get everyone on the same page because everyone got their own idea on what NTR is.

I don't understand why there are levels if anything gets put under the same umbrella when those labels are extremely different

 

[Saerwen]

It's fascinating to me as a woman how much straight men wonder what's gay or isn't. Admit that you like dicks and move on.

 

[Zakharova]

It's fascinating to me as a woman how much straight men wonder what's gay or isn't. Admit that you like dicks and move on.

Okay goddess! I admit it! I like dicks.

 

[eaudecologne]

It's fascinating to me as a woman how much straight men wonder what's gay or isn't. Admit that you like dicks and move on.

well to me as a straight man it's about as interesting as wondering who'll win in a fight - a shark or a gorilla? What's the diagnosis on that, queen?

 

[Saerwen]

Okay goddess! I admit it! I like dicks.

Who doesn't?

 

[Saerwen]

well to me as a straight man it's about as interesting as wondering who'll win in a fight - a shark or a gorilla? What's the diagnosis on that, queen?

Definitely shark. It's a predator after all.