You're a monster.
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I agree with you but my point was mostly about how everything is kinda suspended, since Rae's date with MC, the character-arcs are kinda suspended, example:
We got Naomi mad at her crew, okay let's deal with that, but only for 3-4 updates(until we save Cait from Naomi pestering her with pirate-stuff) we tell her to cool-down and we move on to Lyriel and her drama, same thing 3-4 updates and we move to Cait and we get 3-4 updates about her, and now we're dealing with Blair.
Did we really solve the problem with Naomi's feelings of betrayal? not really, the dev simply put her on a break or something(kinda like mods put a game "On Hold" in this website)
Did we really solve the problem with Lyriel's feelings of betrayal? not really, the dev simply put her on hold.
Did we really solve the mystery of Cait's parents? not really, the dev simply put her on hold.
And like i said, now we're dealing with Blair.
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Indeed...
Its like... If the dev dont want to finish the story, and want to keep the story to endure, but without real development.
Worst than this is if the dev want to made the same story in a better game engine, like Unreal Engine, in his next future project, and milk down...
Oh, wait a second!...
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Either milking, or doesn't know what to do with the current story. This is a common problem with long-developed games
Both things. The guy is trying to make the development of the game as long as possible, and at the same time, doesn't know how to add scenes that aren't filling material. I would be totally OK with those scenes of the day-to-day of the house that doesn't advance the plot, if they were interesting, funny and emotional. But they are just bland. And the fact that MC lacks of personality and background and doesn't have special emotional attachment with none of the girls, and the girls don't have real attachment with him, only make things worse. There are a couple of scenes with Rae that suggest that she could feel something for him other than 'I'm horny and you are the only guy here, so lets fuck', but that's all.
Well shoot :/ I was going to give this a shot but emotional aspects are the real draw for me with these kinds of games. They can be as nasty and twisted as can be and I'll go 'yep, let's see where this goes' but if there's no emotions between the characters everything loses meaning. That's a shame to hear
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Rae kinda acts like a girlfriend, or a smug wife, but the others? feel like they're there just for the sex and MC being the key to bring them back to their worlds...maybe Caitlyn is kinda interested in MC, but it's very implied/subtle...like an afterthought.Well shoot :/ I was going to give this a shot but emotional aspects are the real draw for me with these kinds of games. They can be as nasty and twisted as can be and I'll go 'yep, let's see where this goes' but if there's no emotions between the characters everything loses meaning. That's a shame to hear
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Lyriel is clearly enamored with the MC, and her "OMG gross!" routine when he wants to have sex with one of the others I take as an expression that she really wants him to herself.
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I strongly disagree with everything Risbue said, which seemed mostly motivated by egregious salt.Well shoot :/ I was going to give this a shot but emotional aspects are the real draw for me with these kinds of games. They can be as nasty and twisted as can be and I'll go 'yep, let's see where this goes' but if there's no emotions between the characters everything loses meaning. That's a shame to hear
The emotional content is there. The girls are all clearly interested and emotionally invested in the MC, at least after a bit. They have relatively deep problems for a porn game (and pretty decent ones even taking into account regular games, even if this ain't Detroit: Become Human or some shit).
If you're drawn to emotional aspects and your standards aren't "Katawa Shoujo Only" tier, you'll get something out of this game.
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Yeah, a lot of the emotional problems the girls face in the game aren't the kind that are solved by the MC dicking them a little harder. It's more about the MC and the girl in particular working through the issue.
For example, Lyriel, the elf girl. Before she joins the cast, she was raised in a very isolated way, seeing humans as disgusting beasts, barely above animals. She was also very ignorant and dismissive about things outside of what she knew. But her time in the house exposes to new ideas and she undergoes some character development.
For example, Lyriel, the elf girl. Before she joins the cast, she was raised in a very isolated way, seeing humans as disgusting beasts, barely above animals. She was also very ignorant and dismissive about things outside of what she knew. But her time in the house exposes to new ideas and she undergoes some character development.
The developer is deathly afraid of having any actual goddamn romance in his harem game. Which is fucking crazy.
Doubly so because it's the only harem game I know where the harem would make somewhat sense, the guy and girls are stuck in a place with no way out and he's the only dude.
It's absolutely insane that we get nothing but filler and more filler and more filler locked up behind some idiot triggers around the house, it's been half a decade and all the girls still act like dicks to you no matter how much you "develop" their relationship, maybe except Rae.
It's not like the dev is completely incompetent but he just has such a shit vision for the game and focuses all his attention on trying to get as much out of the game as possible while the faucet's still leaking.
His idea for the game just seems to be a happy-go-lucky friends-with-benefits sort of deal with everyone involved with perhaps only Rae having some sort of relationship with the protagonist and even that will probably never be official and only implied at this rate.
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I really do not know what kind of game you lot are playing, but there seems to be plenty of romance to me.
I'm not sure I fully agree. I mean, there are emotions. There just isn't really any romance. Outside of Rae, there's very little sense that any of the characters have any real romantic affection for the main character. Oh they all like him well enough as a friend, and they have a variety of emotions relating to their personal story arcss, but they don't showcase any sense of romantic love. Naomi treats you as a little brother, just one she can blow off some steam with sexually sometimes. Cait similarly treats you like a brother, just a big brother, but a big brother that she can also experiment and explore her budding sexuality with. Blair and Lyriel have respect for you but that isn't the same as love. Blair because she likes talking with you about Earth's technology and because you're the only other person who's a little unclear/unsure about magic, Lyriel because you are acting as a sort of authority figure while also helping her break out of her shell both sexually and with being less of a spoiled brat. Again they definitely have some respect for you, but that's about as far as that goes. Lyriel might have also some hints of something deeper, but it's so little and so rarely seen especially considering how long she's been in the story that I don't give it a lot of credit at the moment. Yona...I dunno, exists I guess. She's kind of a blank slate of a character at this point, weird that Blair has more going on despite Yona having been around much longer. Anyway, point is that none of that is romance.
Even Rae despite having the most overtly romantic tones is sort of wishy washy. Sometimes she's engaging in romantic dates or cuddles or whatever and other times she acts super elusive and keeps the MC at arms length, which makes sense at first but like I said with Lyriel she's been a character for so long and had so many scenes and content by now that you'd hope her arc and relationship would have developed beyond that by this point.
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The relationships in this game are extremely shallow. They are all friends, the frictions and dramas they have with each other are rather silly and childish and are fixed quite easily, and apart from that, all the girls sleep with the MC in turns, since he is the only man in the house and apparently they get horny because the presence of the succubus exerts a certain aphrodisiac effect on them.
The elf girl and the red-haired human girl seem to see the MC as an older brother, who also serves them as a means of transportation and as an escort when they want to travel to their worlds. They have sex with him for the succubus aphrodisiac influence thing, that's all.
The tall Hindu girl sees the MC as a party mate when they get drunk on whiskey and she tells him about the adventures she has had as a pirate. Sometimes they have sex, again because MC is the only guy in the house. She seems to be 'bi' and have some sort of crush on the human redhead girl, but the developer doesn't go into this, or whether she has sex with Rae or some other girl in the house. In fact, no one seems to care what other people in the house do when we don't see them. Neither do the girls care when the MC is with one or another of them, nor does the MC care to investigate what the girls do with each other. There is no jealousy, nor does any character seem to have dreams or illusions involving another character. The house is like some sort of hippie commune. They live day to day, and that's all.
Regarding the orc girl and the dwarf, pretty much the same. They're even less developed characters than the others, and frankly, I don't care for them. They don't interest me and I'd rather they weren't there.
Rae is, to some extent, the exception. She is the most affectionate with the MC and is more intimate with him than the rest of the girls, being the only one the MC can ask to sleep together or have some intimacy when they watch a movie together. She also has those breakfast 'dates' with him in the MC's world that almost have a certain romantic air, although it's not like they talk about it or have any romantic gestures like kissing or holding hands. Actually, it's ambiguous, and the relationship doesn't go beyond 'good old friends with benefits'.
Rae seems to be a sort of bisexual diplomat-spy-prostitute, and I suppose she would treat any man or woman she is forced to live with for work, or as in this case, out of necessity, the same way he treats the MC. Her deep relationships seem to be that 'lady' who appears at the beginning of the game, and that mysterious character; that girl we saw briefly when MC and Rae traveled together to various themed worlds (Japan, ancient Rome and I can't remember the other one), with whom she had a big fight but with whom she still has contact and who seems to be extremely important to her; something like an ex she hasn't moved on from.
I can imagine Rae kissing goodbye the MC at the end of the game without special drama, as she must have said goodbye to so many people she has get involved within her travels, and getting back to what really matters to her: her relationship (whatever kind it is) with that 'lady', and to try to mend her relationship (again whatever kind it is) with that mystery woman.
This game is not about romance and feelings, it's about (pretty vanilla) sex scenes, 'slice of life' scenes with the girls in the house (pretty childish one, I must say), and the main plot, that advance at snail's pace. About the MC, can't be more generic. We know nothing about the kind of person he was before going to the house, he doesn't have any special charm or skill... Maybe the dev thinks that way everybody will be more easily attached to him or represented by him, but it's just the opposite. I just don't care about him since it's just a generic dude and I can understand the girls doesn't have any special romantic interest for him for the same reason. Actually, seeing Rae talking about her long, varied and intense life, it would be really weird if she has real romantic interest for someone as bland as MC.
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I numbered the various paragraphs so you'll know to what i'm trying to answer
1- That's pretty much it.
2- Yeah, Cait maybe is more interested because MC is kind of a fellow student(because both Cait and MC learn about magical stuff from Rae), but that's pretty much why Caitlyn and MC spend time in the library. While Lyriel after being a brat and punished for it, she kinda started to like the rough-treatment
3- Naomi(aka hindu girl but not really because she is kinda from MC's world's past but not really because that past has a bloody kraken in it but yeah she is from tropical islands or middle-south america) sees MC as a buddy, yes but what Naomi feels for Caitlyin is like what you would feel for a harmless and innocent little sister, that you can't wait to teach her the stuff you know(like climbing trees and stuff)
4- Blair is even more developed than Yona at this point, Yona is a background character she could have no name and it wouldn't make a difference XD
5- To be fair, very far into the game Rae and MC had a fancy dinner(or lunch) date, with Rae considering the idea of moving permanently in MC's world(which would make her slowly lose her powers and become basically human) and enjoy some sort of peace(more like, the dullness of not being involved in conspiracies and other mysteries between worlds and other races) and to spend the rest of her days with MC, but it's very "subtle/you need to guess it from what she says".
6- Rae's role (SO FAR) is kind of the "harem queen" or "first wife of a harem owner" she is the diplomat of the group, with her words manages to solve arguments, while also being the "sex-expert" for Lyriel and Caitlyn(Naomi is kinda too direct/brutal with that stuff). That lady you mention is Rae's mentor, like the woman who taught her how to be a spy/diplomat and how to travel to other worlds.
7- I agree, although that mentor of her, is not that important to her...i mean she is but it's not a romance, but like i said she is a mentor for Rae, meaning that she is important but not the centre of her world.
8- I agree on everything, i mean i do wish for some romance, but yeah it doesn't seem to be the focus here, and yes MC is generic and bland like tap water.
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