Cartageno

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Were there a lot of people complaining that Lyriel is ugly when she was introduced ? i don't think the fact that shes newer has much to do with it
Yes, there have been quite a few complaints about her back in the day, though mostly about the character not the looks IIRC.
 
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Yes, there have been quite a few complaints about her back in the day, though mostly about the character not the looks IIRC.
I phrased it like that on purpose. My point was that when people complain about the looks of Yona and blair it has nothing to do with how new they are. their personality and character development are a separate issue
 

Cartageno

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I phrased it like that on purpose. My point was that when people complain about the looks of Yona and blair it has nothing to do with how new they are. their personality and character development are a separate issue
I'd say it still has something to do with it. Lyriel is from a classic fantasy mold which people are used to. Yona isn't (slight similarities with TES Orsimer notwithstanding). Yes, this also means that Lyriel is more approachable for many.

But if Yona were a "starting character" in this game, those who prefer their classic models would just not be in this thread in the first place, while those looking for more "monstrous girls" wouldn't have skipped it.

Don't get me wrong, I strongly prefer Lyriel to Yona, too. Not only in character (which Yona hasn't developed yet, so I'll reserve judgment) but also in looks. I am happy however that there is more variety than just same old. And I think that many players expected that as well - as seen in the poll you dismissed.

Thats never going to be accurate. A lot of people are going to vote based on what they think is expected of them.
And while that may be correct for some people, I would say it is more accurate than just two random people on a forum sharing their gut feelings heavily influenced by their personal preference. Why shouldn't these people not be influenced by theirs when voting?
 

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And while that may be correct for some people, I would say it is more accurate than just two random people on a forum sharing their gut feelings heavily influenced by their personal preference. Why shouldn't these people not be influenced by theirs when voting?
Id say its more than a gut feeling to say that a character that is "conventionally attractive" is well ... conventionally attractive
Because that poll is the equivalent of a girl putting a poll up asking if she's ugly. it doesn't matter if its anonymous. most people will not say Yes even if they think she is. its rude.

I think ive pushed this conversation beyond what i should. i'm not trying to be rude to the dev or you.
 

Cartageno

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Id say its more than a gut feeling to say that a character that is "conventionally attractive" is well ... conventionally attractive
Because that poll is the equivalent of a girl putting a poll up asking if she's ugly. it doesn't matter if its anonymous. most people will not say Yes even if they think she is. its rude.

I think ive pushed this conversation beyond what i should. i'm not trying to be rude to the dev or you.
To answer the last (non-)question: I didn't think you came around as rude. Having a disagreement on something isn't a personal attack after all. Or at least needn't be. And while I cannot speak for the dev team, I don't think you've been unfair to them either.

I still disagree, but in the spirit of your post I will agree to disagree and reset to "waiting for update" mode :)
 

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Were there a lot of people complaining that Lyriel is ugly when she was introduced ? i don't think the fact that shes newer has much to do with it



Thats never going to be accurate. A lot of people are going to vote based on what they think is expected of them.
You are beginning to understand a statistical phenomenon in your second point. Beginning to.
A more correct way to interpret this is that the majority of persons who respond to open polls tend to be people who feel strongly about these issues, while the ambivalent majority will just scroll past. The main takeaway here is that the majority of that strong-feeling minority like Blair, and the rest of Zanith and co's nearly two thousand patrons don't feel strongly on the issue. And further than that, of the thousands of non-patrons who are fans of the game, only a small few seem to feel strongly enough about the issue to make a post criticizing her addition. Again, I'm not going to call anyone a bad person for having their preferences, since that would make me a hypocrite, but I will call out those who are criticizing the right of game devs to make their games according to the preferences of their target audience, especially when they are openly making false claims and deliberately misinterpreting statistics that are plain and clear as daylight. You are smarter than that, and you know it.
 

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Yes, there have been quite a few complaints about her back in the day, though mostly about the character not the looks IIRC.
Exactly this, Lyriel's complaints were always cause she was super rude to the character and other members of the household, not her appearance.

Blair on other hand has a totally fine body but anyone who puts a lot of stock into a girl's face probably aren't too keen, me included.

It's not quite like Yona's situation either where people were unhappy about getting a second big burly character considering that's a bit of a niche. Although Yona's face did get some complaints too, Blair looks like she's been hit by a frying pan.
The witch nose doesn't help.
 
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I've just downloaded the android version, and it won't load for me. Whenever I try to load it up, it says unpacking files and than it closes. Can anyone help me figure out why?
 

MadFoole

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Ok, liking the newest version so far. Find the new housemate (Blair) super sexxy. I'm looking forward to discovering where things can go with her.
 

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Hey, folks. Apologies for the long absence. With the move and trying to get back to speed with work I basically gave up on most communication channels for a while. Now I'm back, but ngl, I'm too intimidated by the number of posts to do one of my big-reply-posts. I skimmed most of your comments, but please, if there's something you want to ask or there's something I need to see, post it again. I'll do my best not to disappear in the immediate future.
 

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Hey, folks. Apologies for the long absence. With the move and trying to get back to speed with work I basically gave up on most communication channels for a while. Now I'm back, but ngl, I'm too intimidated by the number of posts to do one of my big-reply-posts. I skimmed most of your comments, but please, if there's something you want to ask or there's something I need to see, post it again. I'll do my best not to disappear in the immediate future.
Glad you're safe, glad you're back. I wouldn't worry too much about the "backlog" of posts, just do what you do and we'll play it! :ROFLMAO:
 
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Hey, folks. Apologies for the long absence. With the move and trying to get back to speed with work I basically gave up on most communication channels for a while. Now I'm back, but ngl, I'm too intimidated by the number of posts to do one of my big-reply-posts. I skimmed most of your comments, but please, if there's something you want to ask or there's something I need to see, post it again. I'll do my best not to disappear in the immediate future.
Welcome back. Now hold still while we fit your ankle with a heavy iron chain and secure it to your work station. You'll be allowed a bathroom break every 4 days, and you can have a sip of water every 2 days and a crust of bread every 3. Also sleep is no longer allowed. Yep, so good to have you back.
 
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