ZanithOne

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save and persistent attached, hope they help
edit: save replaced with newer one
Okay, I see the problem. The code tries to put Yona into the living room with all the others, but her first two quests make her stay in her room. I'll fix this dependency in the future updates, but for now you can just complete the first two of Yona's events.
 
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UnDeaD_CyBorG

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Good to know on Naomi. Guess I'll just accept being stuck on quest 8 for now and wait.
As for the issue of the scary stories characters disappearing for a time period:
I can confirm and might be able to find a save of this later. Assuming no one posts one until then.
When Cait told the MC to go to the attic, she and Naomi were sitting in the main door, and there was no way to trigger them anywhere else - then, after the event, they are occasionally shown to be there on the quick map, but, of course, they aren't.
 
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Alrighty, here's what I have ZanithOne

1-6 shows the brushing of her hair...
2-2 shows the glasses long before the proper event is unlocked
2-5 shows "Period Drama" not triggering properly
-- Sorry looks like I don't have a save handy where Naomi & Cait are supposed to be in the West Hall according to the quick map but aren't there. -- I'm believing this is directly related to the mission "Scary Stories"
5-3 another for the brushing of the hair, however I believe it shows it triggering before the flag for it unlocks as it opened up pretty early for me before I got the one of her staring blankly into the mirror.
 

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If you have a save right before the wrong scene triggers, could you please post it? It might be a remnant trigger from an earlier (incorrectly terminated?) event.
Here's my save from the conclusion of 0.6.4r1
It's not literally "right before I wake up incorrectly" but hopefully that's ok?

I also tried playing with my save from the conclusion of 0.6.3r1 and it broke in the same way

(I know I can permit myself access to the console and manually conclude the event, but I don't know if that'd break something else down the line)
 

Master of Puppets

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I like Lyriel and Naomi dynamic. they get on each others nerves, would be great to see them together dark and light skin contrasting :love:
While I agree that it would be fun to see them together, I don't really remember them getting on each other's nerves that much. Except at the start, when Lyriel was getting on everyone's nerves. When I think of Naomi having problems with another girl, it's always Rae. Now those two don't seem to get along very well a lot of the time.
 
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While I agree that it would be fun to see them together, I don't really remember them getting on each other's nerves that much. Except at the start, when Lyriel was getting on everyone's nerves. When I think of Naomi having problems with another girl, it's always Rae. Now those two don't seem to get along very well a lot of the time.
oh yeah, i got it mixed up. I guess i thought that because of their differing personalities. Naomi/Lyriel is still my dream scene tho lol
 

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Some thoughts after 2nd play in a week:

1) very good interaction. I basically finish most in the 1st play by just walking around and talking others. No much need for guidance or hints except near the end when quests nearly run out.

2) everyone is nice, but rae is too good for me to really care much about others. Their stories are all cool, especially when rae comes in.

3) MC is now basically a driver in the walk. Someone wants to do something, see someone, buy something, and they come to MC. However, MC should also be much impressed by the others world where magic works. He might also want to do something here for himself, like studies something in the university of magic, and maybe also need something back in earth, instead of just drive peoples there upon their requests.

4) When buying glass for cait, she is so happy about the receipt, holding it tightly in her hands. Yet after the walk, The receipt is nowhere to be seen, and everyone seems to forget all about it. Shouldn't it be the first thing cait check after the walk?

5) Not sure if intended, but when Irinel uses rae's favorite word "dear", I feel a bit off.

6) after cait's revealing magic, maybe she should be more cautious and hesitating about studying magic with rae? After all she is nervous about everything and she knows rae is extremely naughty.

7) I know MC is not meant to be a scientists or something, but more talking about technology against magic should be fun. For example, seeing the magic lifting the book, he might want to ask if one could design a perpetual machine with it?
And explaining phones to rae, its hopeless to start with waves etc. Maybe: we have a device that emits a sequence of small lightings upon hearing some sound, for example, lighting blank lighting lighting for sound "a", lighting blank blank lighting for sound "b". Then another device could see this lighting far away, and emit sounds accordingly. Of course we don't actually use lighting, we use something similar, but could transmit through walls, and these devices might not actually see each other directly but through some relay, etc.

8) CAIT, at the age of 18, without any proper training in physics, could read M theory. That is truly...... I mean most wouldn't even know quantum mechanics at that age. Even if it is something magical, MC should be shocked.

9) A pity that rae could only paint the MC. Cait in her new dress would be great, lyriel might not like to idea but the result would be even better. Yono would oblige, but I am not sure how good the painting will be. I also wonder what else did rae learn, maybe music and dancing?

10) rae explains to lyriel that everything they take would either disappear or return to the house when the walk ends. Yet they buy with money and rae even pawn her armlet?
 
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segaegae

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I think I found possible bugs:

1) it is possible to delay the first talk about tv with rae to much later when it does not make sense at all.
Just don't check rae on the sofa. On second in game day, check rae on the fridge, check the shower, check mc's own closet, be honest in all these, then the night rae would ask if mc is a magi. Everything then progress as normal, only that when you check rae watching TV, she still behaves like she never knows about tv, and mc could still ask for service, even after rae sees tv talks about demons being evil, even after movie nights.

2) on the evening of the day after the 3rd dream about caitlin, rae would tell mc she finds new magazines from the library then showing off new clothes. Library should appear on that day indeed, but caitlin should have locked the door on that day, and rae would not enter it (without finding out about caitlin and informing others). Shouldn't these activity be delayed one day, until naomi finds out the library?
 
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Psykoman1978

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anyone know the code for the box in the medbay? (full of stars (or something like that) dream)

alright found it
 
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While I agree that it would be fun to see them together, I don't really remember them getting on each other's nerves that much. Except at the start, when Lyriel was getting on everyone's nerves. When I think of Naomi having problems with another girl, it's always Rae. Now those two don't seem to get along very well a lot of the time.
As much as I love her, I think Rae is at times just a bit too mischievous (although I would expect nothing less from a succubus). Rae gets on Naomi's nerves. Rae gets on Lyriel's nerves. She doesn't get on Cait's nerves, but she does sometimes make her flustered (whereas Cait seems much less so when alone with the MC). I don't think anybody gets on Yona's nerves; outside of the trouble from back home, she seems a pretty laid-back person (or just resigned to what she feels is her fate). I don't think I've seen enough long-term stuff to judge how Rae ultimately gets along with Blair; if anything, I would expect Blair to be the one to instigate more often, but IDK for sure.

But what little pattern there is seems mostly to be Rae's doing. Ofc, it doesn't help things that Naomi is hard-headed and Lyriel's high-maintenance. But obviously Rae really doesn't mean any harm. She actually cares for everyone, even if she teases them to death.
 

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FYI, ZanithOne, upstairs in the bathroom when Lyriel is cleaning, if I have the MC propose going to her room and then pick the option So you don't?, the game immediately jumps to her room, sitting down beside her on the bed. I've done this sequence with previous versions, so I believe a bug was introduced in this latest release that causes some dialogue and renders to get skipped.
 
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As much as I love her, I think Rae is at times just a bit too mischievous (although I would expect nothing less from a succubus). Rae gets on Naomi's nerves. Rae gets on Lyriel's nerves. She doesn't get on Cait's nerves, but she does sometimes make her flustered (whereas Cait seems much less so when alone with the MC). I don't think anybody gets on Yona's nerves; outside of the trouble from back home, she seems a pretty laid-back person (or just resigned to what she feels is her fate). I don't think I've seen enough long-term stuff to judge how Rae ultimately gets along with Blair; if anything, I would expect Blair to be the one to instigate more often, but IDK for sure.
I'd argue that its less Rae being mischievous and more that she's not that socially adept. Rae was trained to move and speak in higher circles than her own, talk to royalty and nobility and to live among them. There's a certainly level of doublespeak involved with nobility, its always a game of wordplay, verbal sparring and parrying. Keep in mind, Rae says that she has served as an ambassador for much of her life, spending years in these environments, where the wrong word at the wrong time might offend a Duke or a Baroness and there's a world of trouble.

But look at the situation she's in now. She's trapped in a house with a group of people from wildly different worlds, each with wildly different mindsets, traditions and customs that she has had no time to prepare for. Everyone in the house is on the backfoot because they have to deal with wildly different concepts that are blowing their minds (e.g. Blair and magic). You have a pirate captain who is a straight talker, an arrogant elven equivalent of a teenager who doesn't listen until its too late, an actual teenager who, though intelligent, is highly lacking in wisdom. That's not forgetting the Orc who believes she's dead and the Dwarf who probably is some sort of spy. Oh and the guy from the world with no magic, but technology that seems like magic and he's the reason they're all stuck there. She's among equals for the first time in her life and she can't talk to as such because she's stuck in that mindset - everyone is either above her or below her in the pecking order. And that doesn't work in the house.

All of that is a recipe for short fuses and frayed nerves. Its actually a miracle that no one has attacked anyone yet.

But with Rae, we're seeing that her training might be great for people with titles and power, but for a blunt person like Naomi, the delicate touch might sound like an insult. Same with the youthful arrogance of Lyriel, if she doesn't get it straight away then they must be mocking her lack of intelligence. The list goes on. Basically, everyone in that house is out of their depth, Rae especially, even if she doesn't seem like it, she's probably just better at hiding it.
 
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