There exists at least one life saver type and it is an ambulance. This does not limit all life savers to ambulances; that would require all life savers be ambulances which is not a premise provided. Or as Monty Python put it: " Universal affirmatives can only be partially converted: all of Alma Cogan is dead, but only some of the class of dead people are Alma Cogan. "The logic puzzles of Rina are confusing. We are told "Last one! Let's get it right. All ambulances are life savers. No ambulances are bumper cars. Then... with "Some life savers are no bumper cars" being the correct answer. Why are "No bumper cars are life savers" and "No life savers are bumper cars" wrong?
ambulances = life savers
no ambulances = bumper cars
ergo
no life savers = bumper cars
What am I missing?
Oh, that's not the dream's fault, that's just how a course/club on formal logic is. The main trick here is to ignore any associations with the words and just treat them as generic variables.Bear in mind that it is also something of a dream sequence, so the fact that its veering off into nonsensical should be expected.
I don't remember any of these puzzles and I think I did all the main and sub quests for each LI. When does this happen?The logic puzzles of Rina are confusing. We are told "Last one! Let's get it right. All ambulances are life savers. No ambulances are bumper cars. Then... with "Some life savers are no bumper cars" being the correct answer. Why are "No bumper cars are life savers" and "No life savers are bumper cars" wrong?
ambulances = life savers
no ambulances = bumper cars
ergo
no life savers = bumper cars
What am I missing?
I think i deleted the first, sorry about that. combining the 2 remaining.All ambulances are life savers. = Some lifesavers are not bumper cars. This is an absolute fact. Hence it's the correct answer, by deductive reasoning.
No ambulances are bumper cars. = Self explanatory.
It does not state that "No lifesavers are bumper cars", which is why that answer is incorrect. It's an assumption, not a given fact.
Please use "Edit" and combine your 3 consecutive posts, to one.![]()
Nice one, thanks.I think i deleted the first, sorry about that. combining the 2 remaining.
OK, with regards the dream, do you mean the one where she's in the stocks & you can take advantage of her?What happened to the old rapey dream with Lyriel? Dream ends now before getting to fuck her if you go that route, whereas before you absolutely could.
Anyway to get an older version of the game?
No, I'm referring to the scene where she has her hands tied to the bed. Now if you go down that route it fades out of the dream, and if i load a save mid scene from that it produces an error after clicking once. So the scene itself seems to exist in the files somewhere but it is no longer accessible im guessing for some reason.Nice one, thanks.
OK, with regards the dream, do you mean the one where she's in the stocks & you can take advantage of her?
I don't think it's been changed, but I can't check because I didn't take the rapey option.
There might be an older version posted in the thread, but there isn't one available from the OP, only the latest version.
Can I ask, why do you want an older version? Just to check the dream, or something else?
Fairly early on, I think it's still just you and Rae in the house, you can have a dream about a dating sim the MC was playing before the events of this game. It's just a one-off sequence with a random anime character and a lewd scene at the end.I don't remember any of these puzzles and I think I did all the main and sub quests for each LI. When does this happen?
I don't really remember it.Fairly early on, I think it's still just you and Rae in the house, you can have a dream about a dating sim the MC was playing before the events of this game. It's just a one-off sequence with a random anime character and a lewd scene at the end.
I guess that.There are a couple early dreams which are never expanded upon so they're easy to forget. This one is in a 2D computer graphic style (for a while). I remembered this one but completely forgot about the others before I recently replayed it.
I would for two reasons: first it tends to remove a whole bunch of potential cases that otherwise need testing or review and second, anyone else who looks at the premises can immediately see if my assumptions hold true in case I misunderstood something.<snip>
If we're talking about practical application: certainly. Although I wouldn't denote it personally because it is irrelevant to everything that follows whether they exist or not. Here we are not talking about something slice of life but a competition in formal logic however, there I don't see them making it too easy by applying common sense - just the bare rules and their consequences. That's why all the attributes are so silly as well. You could take whichone's example of human mortality otherwise, but then real life might give you a hint as to whether or not the answer is feasible - and where's the fun in that?![]()
I still don't remember doing this part of the game... The questions or any minigame don't sound familiar to me.The 2D mini game, early on.
There's a couple of statements that are said to be true, followed by 3, or 4 statements, of which only 1 is true.
You have to use deductive reasoning to deduce which one is true.
"All ambulances are life savers" was one of the true statements.
The "illogical process" I'm following is called "formal logic" and works exactly like that. We don't care what your real world thinks about unicorns.But it's not.
I just explained how it's exactly true.
It's only the illogical process you're following that says it "must be" false.
I prefer Guns, Butter, and the Price of Tea in China. oh wait those are logical tests for economics classes ...Dear ZanithOne, for the love of God, and all things holy, please use x’s, y’s and z’s for all future logical tests!
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