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sillyrobot

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I don't recall Naomi commented anything like that. Naomi could probably not tell anyway. The only thing I could remember about this is imp, used first by lyriel.
Also rae should be much older than a century. That 40 years was just a few assignment. Although there is no direct reference(?) I believe Rae has witnessed and maybe also fought in the slaughter against demons three centuries ago. So I would say her age would be at least four centuries or so.
I'd have to go back and play the game again to find it and I don't have that in me right now. It's after Cait joins the house and may be after Lyriel arrives. Rae, Naomi and the MC are discussing something a human needs to do (I have no idea what). The following is paraphrased from memory:

Naomi says something like "Why don't you do it?".
Rae replies "As you pointed out, I'm a succubus."
Naomi replies "Yeah but..."
Rae replies "I can't"
Naomi replies "Ah Won't talk about it now. Got it."

Naomi is a witch with second sight. If anyone could know, it would be her. Lyriel's calling Rae imp is just perjorative like her calling Naomi brute.

As for her age, I was giving a lower bound. Nothing earlier is really ever discussed. She is obviously affected by the plight of her people, but there's no indication she was directly involved.
 

Cartageno

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Yes, what I say: a salaryman. The dev could create any kind of MC (athlete, military, scholar, adventurer... whatever), but he decided to make him as boring and bored as possible. :ROFLMAO::LOL:
Which would raise the question though: what good would an athlete MC (to grab the first of your examples) do if the story doesn't use the "athlete". Sure, it could also be a story where he can do certain stuff because of his muscles or endurance or what have you but that would not just be a different character but also a different story.

And having a bland MC as in "no real discernable skills other than an average guy on the street would have" has the advantage of allowing for growth, not only in story (though that might be the most important) but also in game mechanisms, which is why you see so many more "bland" MCs in boxes, even light ones, than in straight up VNs. If a guy has been a high school athlete for years and was considered for the Olympic team, there is no way in game you can raise his athleticism while in the house, any task that could be solved by his skills would not be an obstacle, and so on.

I don't mean to say that an athlete MC is impossible, but there are indeed good reasons for the blank canvas. And there are good reasons to consider that boring and not feel motivated to follow Blandy McBlandfaces life story.
 

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I'd have to go back and play the game again to find it and I don't have that in me right now. It's after Cait joins the house and may be after Lyriel arrives. Rae, Naomi and the MC are discussing something a human needs to do (I have no idea what). The following is paraphrased from memory:

Naomi says something like "Why don't you do it?".
Rae replies "As you pointed out, I'm a succubus."
Naomi replies "Yeah but..."
Rae replies "I can't"
Naomi replies "Ah Won't talk about it now. Got it."

Naomi is a witch with second sight. If anyone could know, it would be her. Lyriel's calling Rae imp is just perjorative like her calling Naomi brute.

As for her age, I was giving a lower bound. Nothing earlier is really ever discussed. She is obviously affected by the plight of her people, but there's no indication she was directly involved.
I cannot find the conversation, and I think you probably mismatch two conversations:
One is Naomi asks why mc hasn't do anything about the house, and rae explains he needs more training.
The other is MC asking about the Sealed Sound:
mainchar "Is this something I should know about?"
scene story_8_cait_appears_07_01 #naomi incredulous + 07_01
naomi "Ya don't?"
mainchar "No-o-o?.."
naomi "Esha, what's with that?"
scene story_8_cait_appears_07_02 #rae + 07_02
azrae "Why are you asking me?"
naomi "Ya know why."
mainchar "I don't."
naomi "Ah, later."

While there is no direct reference, rae reacts strongly about this plight, so it is likely she is involved and suffered greatly. Otherwise, it could probably be just a tale, story, history for her. I mean, WW2 is less than 80 years ago and yet...
 

sillyrobot

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I cannot find the conversation, and I think you probably mismatch two conversations:
One is Naomi asks why mc hasn't do anything about the house, and rae explains he needs more training.
The other is MC asking about the Sealed Sound:
mainchar "Is this something I should know about?"
scene story_8_cait_appears_07_01 #naomi incredulous + 07_01
naomi "Ya don't?"
mainchar "No-o-o?.."
naomi "Esha, what's with that?"
scene story_8_cait_appears_07_02 #rae + 07_02
azrae "Why are you asking me?"
naomi "Ya know why."
mainchar "I don't."
naomi "Ah, later."

While there is no direct reference, rae reacts strongly about this plight, so it is likely she is involved and suffered greatly. Otherwise, it could probably be just a tale, story, history for her. I mean, WW2 is less than 80 years ago and yet...
It's a conversation with Naomi, Rae, and Caitlin talking about the house

Rae: His innate power is great but he can barely tap into it. Find some literature that will explain how you humans interact with magic.
Naomi: Ya keep saying humans like ya ain't one.
Rae: I think we established quite clearly that I am not.
Naomi: Being coy again. Ya a fine gyal, Esha, no need to pretend.
... <more stuff not related>
 

Master of Puppets

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It's a conversation with Naomi, Rae, and Caitlin talking about the house

Rae: His innate power is great but he can barely tap into it. Find some literature that will explain how you humans interact with magic.
Naomi: Ya keep saying humans like ya ain't one.
Rae: I think we established quite clearly that I am not.
Naomi: Being coy again. Ya a fine gyal, Esha, no need to pretend.
... <more stuff not related>
Naomi is clearly taking the piss out of Rae, because she pretended to be human before and Naomi saw right through it. So now she's teasing her about it.
 

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You think? I read it more as "I can see your true nature you know. If you're embarrassed, I'll drop it for now."
Its more like "Yeah, I know you're trying to be sneaky and tricky, but it hasn't fooled me, but you and I both know its a game of wits, so I'm happy to play along."

In essence, Naomi is telling Rae not to underestimate her either.
 

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Regarding choices it's obvious most are in the way, you can't call it characterization when the MC behaves submissive and like an asshole withing a span of three clicks, if you want to characterize a bland MC do it from the start, like when you meet Rae the first two or three choices determine how you will behave for the rest of the game, it just doesn't make any sense to behave like an asshole after establishing a proper relationship with her.

Regarding Rae she's been established as a "diplomat" in a backwards world probably discriminated and abused, so she developed her sassy persona but it's clear she wants to live in earth and let that life go but lacks the courage to take that step.
 

segaegae

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You think? I read it more as "I can see your true nature you know. If you're embarrassed, I'll drop it for now."

The dev ain't subtle with his foreshadowing.
While since when does Naomi care about others being embarrassed? She makes embarrassing comments and jokes all the time.
I tend to agree Naomi is teasing Rae for pretending to be human. Besides it could probably just a comment on the fact that Rae behaves very much similar to human such that Naomi would forget rae is in fact a succubus from time to time.
 

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Greetings! Who else is waiting for 6.13?
Well, certainly not me. I am waiting for 1.0.
Now seriously, since the last update was rae, I doubt the next updates in near future would be her as well. And since I am mostly only interested in rae, so... I could only hope rae shows up in others stories again.
 
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Name356

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Well, certainly not me. I am waiting for 1.0.
Now seriously, since the last update was rae, I doubt the next updates in near future would be her as well. And since I am mostly only interested in rae, so... I could only hope rae shows up in others stories again.
From Patreon 6.13:

Changelog:
  • Get an explanation from Rae
  • Visit Tiberum with her and make them say your name
  • Look at Rae in a very revealing outfit
  • Sneak into a market under the guise of a musician (or a trader)
  • Get a special dance from Rae
  • Make Lyriel wear that blouse and skirt combo to bed
  • Meet Rae's old friend

It seems this update will be Rae's as well. :)

But I agree, I´m not really interested in other characters, so if I don't see Rae in the changelog, I just skip the update. One of the reasons I don't support this game: too many uninteresting characters.
 
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segaegae

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From Patreon 6.13:

Changelog:
  • Get an explanation from Rae
  • Visit Tiberum with her and make them say your name
  • Look at Rae in a very revealing outfit
  • Sneak into a market under the guise of a musician (or a trader)
  • Get a special dance from Rae
  • Make Lyriel wear that blouse and skirt combo to bed
  • Meet Rae's old friend

It seems this update will be Rae's as well. :)

But I agree, I´m not really interested in other characters, so if I don't see Rae in the changelog, I just skip the update. One of the reasons I don't support this game: too many uninteresting characters.
Oh great. But still I would like to know more about Rae's family, if she has one now.
 
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IDOLJOKE

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Can I ask you something? How much route do I have to play for this scene? Thank you in advance for the answer. IMG_20230610_040305.jpg
 

drifter139

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That is one of the very first scenes in the game, and one of only a couple that can be missed. The gallery is persistent though, so just start a new game, get that scene, then load your main save again.
I remember missing that scene my first time through and I think I used the gallery unlocker for it
 

Name356

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Usually I´m not waiting for updates of this game. Most of them aren't about Rae but other more childish characters. But the last one ended in kind of a cliffhanger about Rae's past and her "job" as a spy using sex for getting her way in targets, and it seems that some information is going to be released this update about the woman that apparently betrayed her. It seems that the next update is going to be an interesting one. I just hope it doesn't destroy Rae's character. The dev is toying with sensitive subjects.
 
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