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Ok just double checked.. its your sister that needs to be over 20 corruption to start the quest. So to get this you need to get her to like you to a certain amount which then opens up the option to corrupt her instead of talking.. To improve like its talking (once every 2 hours counts) or sending a text. some activities will improve like faster while some will reduce it.. so watch for that..
This will also be needed to get the cam sister quest moving..
The cam girl quest starts if you try to talk to her at 23hours in her bedroom (need key to get in there).
Ok I think i can see where the problem is going to occur here.. You then need a personal corruption level of 200 (omg i know.. this might be a bit high...) Watching porn will improve your corruption by 1 per go and reading the porn mag (it needs to be in your back pack).. Taking upskirt pics will also raise your corruption level by 1...
Also your sister needs to be at corruption over 30 to get the next step also..

What I am hoping to introduce in to the next update is more content that will get your corruption level up to the areas of 100/200 without having to just hammer the porn etc...
The sister smoking quest is a minor quest that is meant to be a quest to raise stats.. while the sister cam is the start of a larger on running series of quests. (at current there are 10 steps to this.. i am currently working on step 11 which introduces a choice of where you want to take the mc)..

Sorry bout the grind.. but your effort and comments will make the game improve and hopefully quickly to balance some of these issues..

Thanks :)
 

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When you interact with NPC there is the first button to talk, the second to corrupt, but what is the third (image of a hand with a plate?) button doing?

For a first release, i can see a nice base of your developement. Keeping an Eye on it, while waiting for more content and polishing the existing one (like grind, resolution, hint information aso.) Thanks and good look with it!
 

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When you interact with NPC there is the first button to talk, the second to corrupt, but what is the third (image of a hand with a plate?) button doing?

For a first release, i can see a nice base of your developement. Keeping an Eye on it, while waiting for more content and polishing the existing one (like grind, resolution, hint information aso.) Thanks and good look with it!
The hand with plate is to serve... its not implemented yet.. but its going to be the way of raising a NPCs dom while lowering yours.. and will have pics/vids/events that relate..

thanks for the possitive comments.. I hope to keep the content coming and like you said polish off some of the other areas. the one that is going to stump me I think is the resolution outside of the browser magnification.. but will keep on thinking..
 
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Is there any way to make the majority of the screen black? There is so much blank white space just shooting straight into my eyeballs.
The majority of the screen should be black.. I have the window set to not maximized and just wider / longer than the game screen.. The only large section of white is if the current image being displayed is landspace instead of portrait.. I will have a look at how it looks to make the img div background in black instead of white (like the other boxes).. failing that maybe a duller white!

Thanks for your feedback :)
 

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I have probably played that.. (I have played most real porn games on here at some point) but I cant say I remember it that well..
The UI and whole engine is totally 100% created by me. Its one of the things I felt as a project I wanted to do.. Wasnt that straight forward, as I had to learn Javascript.. I have tried to make the UI simple to use (might be failing reading some of the comments) and clean..

Thanks for your comments and look forward to hearing from you in the future as the game develops :)
You can look for it here. I played the regalia (HTML) version. The rags version is really hard to run. It has a lot of M/M scenes, but you can play the first minutes before they start appearing, and see how she (the dev is a woman, the game was a gift for her bi husband. The lucky bastard...) got the UI there, kinda like you did with your game.

You might want to take a look, and get some ideas. Of course, there are tons of other HTML games that are almost mandatory here (The company, become alpha, etc...) but they were made with Twine, and I suppose you don't want to use it since you created your engine from zero.
 

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You can look for it here. I played the regalia (HTML) version. The rags version is really hard to run. It has a lot of M/M scenes, but you can play the first minutes before they start appearing, and see how she (the dev is a woman, the game was a gift for her bi husband. The lucky bastard...) got the UI there, kinda like you did with your game.

You might want to take a look, and get some ideas. Of course, there are tons of other HTML games that are almost mandatory here (The company, become alpha, etc...) but they were made with Twine, and I suppose you don't want to use it since you created your engine from zero.
It does look kinda familar.. One thing I am going to do my absolute best to achieve is that when you see an NPC as one person, they will be them in all scenes. Obviously MC will have to change.. but I am trying to keep as much of the content to POV, so that wont be a problem..
I've had a few years of gaming here to get an idea of what I like in other games (both real porn and not)...
Interesting to hear the back story of a game creator. And to hear there are some female programmers outthere.. (thought they were like unicorns!)
A game I would like to compare mine to would be Girl Life. Obviously they use the qsp engine which differs, and the mc is a girl. But I do like the open play the game has. I think the two things about that game that I struggle with, that lack of any idea of where any content is (I hope mine is going to be a bit more dirrected but still with some suprise content that you could stumble across on).. and the use of different people in pics.. I totally see why they do this though..

Anyways back to the game creating.. :)
 

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Hello.

Thanks to your explainations, I was able to go further. Though I'll start with this general observation : as a game, it's well made, creative and original but as a player, it isn't user friendly. An introduction and a tutorial should solve this issue.

The summary, samples and tags made me come. And the result is frustrating.

The worldbuilding is correct.
The characters are numerous and different.
The plot is simple, usual and can lead everywhere.
The photos are well chosen and the map is well made.

Not knowing how the game works makes the experience difficult. I had to continue by testing little by little and after your answer, I was able to try other possibilities and time period but it's still tedious.
Most of the actions available are the interactions with NPC at the start and it's strange. We have to reach school hours, not without difficulty, to unlock other ones.
The school system is interesting but also confusing. We can choose everything, from what we want to study to who we want to talk, making meaningless lessons if we speak with other students.
The stats are difficult to grind (once a day). The same with gathering relationship points.
The various items we can find : are they just supposed to be stocked? For example, the music CD can't be put back in the room once taken? Having items lying around could unfold events like a family member finding the porn mag could lead to either a sex scene (masturbation with father/blowjob with the girls) or a loss of relationhip (more corruption/dom but less like/love) or tidying our room for relationship gains or money. Is it mandatory to take an item to use it?

The schedule seems fluid but does that mean there's no repercussion for missing something like not going to school, not working a week, not talking to somebody for a long period?

At school, in class, the teachers should be separated from the students in the portrait section.

When we exceed a certain hour (I think 0:00), we don't have the going to sleep option anymore.

Thank you for being the first to comment on my new game.
Firstly, I will look to add a confirmation button for the Load and save options for next version.. They do work and are implemented.. If you create a game... move to a different location other than mc bedroom.. and then save it, close the browser.. run the game and press load.. it should take you to the point where you saved from. If this doesnt then I am going to have to run it here on a test fresh machine.
Ok, so for now it's just one save and it isn't automatic. It works fine but it's a strange system for an HTML game.

Also its worth getting a mobile phone and laptop..
These will get you on social media(some content) and able to texting.
For that you need money, so being able to get a job and avoiding bullies (unless they can also take your phone and other items) and at the start of the game it's something far away.

My intention is to allow you to make the MC Straight / BI / Sissy / Cuck through different actions.. Also I intend for you to be able to make another npc bi.. and sissification and trans.. Only option for now that I am not keen on going down is making the MC trans.. but like I said the intention is for it all to be optional. So you can avoid what you dont want..
You say it's avoidable but, when we interact with somebody, we can only accept.

Regarding the bully part.. That I am going to have to think about.. as Its important for me that you get bullied buy certain npcs by just clicking on them.. so your only option is to avoid them or to become more dominate..
Well, I understand what you want to do but we shouldn't loose our money the first time we meet them.
And that's more or less what I did : I avoided every student and only talked to adults. So finding Arnold and Coco is left for another try.

So... my plan is to make the MC both dominate and sub.. to both male and female NPCs.. I particularly have content where the MC is both dom and sub to the mother and sister and a few other NPCS aswell..
As a switch (top/bottom and dom/sub), I want to congratulate you for that.

There is no brother at this time.. Datable.. for father / grandfather is unlikely but sexual content with them is very likely.. Already there is something with the father (its not a lot but its in one of the quests-job one).
I'm not that much into incest but, to cover everything, you should have included a brother. Also, dating mother/sister/grandma but not father/grandfather is strange.

I am still working in my head on how the gf/bf relationship is going to work. I have put a placeholder in the save for 1 active partner. Just need to understand what that means to other quests or to interaction with them. I want the partner relationship to mean something, if its going to be implemented. It will also have to grow.. so it might mean initially only 1 or 2 npc can be partners then as I add content more will be available..
So that means one official and many fuck buddies? With or without repercutions? Open relationship or not?

Also all content will be avoidable. Content is going to be stats driven and engagement driven.. so If you do not have the stats to be in a bi / gay relationship because you have not done the steps that take you down that round, then you will not be engaging in that.
That's odd. How do you become bi/gay then? By watching the specific porn? And do you lose it if you go after more women than men?

Eat with the family! great idea.. I will defo be adding that.. At the moment when the family come together to eat, 2 out of the 3 of them currently have unique talks.. but that is it.. I see eating with the family as being a chance to increase your like with all 3 in one go... Ok this is going to be in the next release 100% I think I have an idea of how to implement this within the current engine set up...
You should also consider other family activities like watching TV, barbecue party in the garden, an outing to the beach, anything you can find. The same with other families (something with Coco's or Jordi's family for example), with a group of common friends (reading together at the library, goind to the park with the athletic ones), with the group of bullies together, with many teachers in their restroom... Well, everything you see fitting.

The is no option for snooping into sisters room yet.. your can snoop on her in the bathroom in the mornings weekday and weekend.. More snooping is to come.. but this is only the first release and I want to try to give at least 1 example of different mechanics that will be featured more in later releases.
Seeing this, is voyeurism mandatory? And is it more stumbling upon or voluntarily peep?

This is my bad.. ok so the lockpicks were an early idea I had, so I put the lockpick item into the game but really should have said it is for a future release.. When I thought it out more, I ended up with more questions that answers of how to implement them and what they would achieve. Like how many goes can you lockpick before it breaks and you have to buy another. I was going to have different strength picks.. I want there to be a way of learning lock picking like your said in the lib or on laptop.. But most importantly, I want there to be a reward for getting into a room or whats the point. So the lock pick might end up being a quest to start you down that road and introduce you on the pic mechanics. And all quests will have a story and a reward.. so that would take care of that.. but at the same time, I am going to then have to make it that all doors are pickable or that you are told this door is beyond your picking ability..
This will come.. but might take a few updates.. Sorry it was not clear.. Lots of ideas in my head when I starting making and had to put some on hold or the first release would never have come out..

Appriciate your comments and im finding it interesting that each persons comments seem to be focused on different element of the game so far... Look forward to hearing from you again :)
Everything is interesting but did you think about locked items outside doors like chest/box, chains...
The book at the library is already a good first step.

Id be currious to know.. would you consider either trans or cuck content to be bi / gay. or are you looking for something a bit more clean cut so to say.. You might recognise some of the male school mates as trans or gay porn actors .. so content is there to be added (thats the plan)..
If it's with a man then yes. Also, some people consider anything dick related to be gay.

As for sissification, is it obligatory to said character or will a normal gay relationship be available? I don't find feminine men appealing so I want to know if it will be worth seducing them or only have them as friends.

I have probably played that.. (I have played most real porn games on here at some point) but I cant say I remember it that well..
The UI and whole engine is totally 100% created by me. Its one of the things I felt as a project I wanted to do.. Wasnt that straight forward, as I had to learn Javascript.. I have tried to make the UI simple to use (might be failing reading some of the comments) and clean..

Thanks for your comments and look forward to hearing from you in the future as the game develops :)
You can look for it here. I played the regalia (HTML) version. The rags version is really hard to run. It has a lot of M/M scenes, but you can play the first minutes before they start appearing, and see how she (the dev is a woman, the game was a gift for her bi husband. The lucky bastard...) got the UI there, kinda like you did with your game.

You might want to take a look, and get some ideas. Of course, there are tons of other HTML games that are almost mandatory here (The company, become alpha, etc...) but they were made with Twine, and I suppose you don't want to use it since you created your engine from zero.
It made me think of A Spell for All instead. But every other HTML game can serve for inspiration.

I think that's enough for now.

Good continuation.
 

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If not for the comments here I probs wouldn't know what to do. I didn't even know that I can have a phone or laptop and that mom gives MC money (spent 30 mins just randomly clicking on folks and locations without progressing one bit). There should be some more hints in the game imo, NPCs tracker of some kind, maybe even some diary that stores info and some forced conversations/events that make you aware for example that mom gives MC money.
 
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If not for the comments here I probs wouldn't know what to do. I didn't even know that I can have a phone or laptop and that mom gives MC money (spent 30 mins just randomly clicking on folks and locations without progressing one bit). There should be some more hints in the game imo, NPCs tracker of some kind, maybe even some diary that stores info and some forced conversations/events that make you aware for example that mom gives MC money.
Taking this onboard.. I think that I will have a brief intro page for new users (that everyone that isnt me at the moment).. Where a few start tips are given.. I have tried to put some of that into the help page. but maybe a bit more is needed to make it more new user friendly.. this is going to be something I am writing down now on the agenda for v0.2...
I'm glad that you did stick with it.. and hopeful have been able to get a bit more out of it now you got those tips. :)

thanks for your comments..
 
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Had more than 30 points still got no option of work and earn money
Took me a while to work this one out... The hint for the quest says you need npc 30+like.. and charisma 20+ (but i think infact it might be 30) Ignore this.. i cant read my own code! it is 20 charisma as stated.... but what it doesnt mention is you need the mobile phone.. as he is about to make you an offer which will depend on having the phone..
 

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Taking this onboard.. I think that I will have a brief intro page for new users (that everyone that isnt me at the moment).. Where a few start tips are given.. I have tried to put some of that into the help page. but maybe a bit more is needed to make it more new user friendly.. this is going to be something I am writing down now on the agenda for v0.2...
I'm glad that you did stick with it.. and hopeful have been able to get a bit more out of it now you got those tips. :)

thanks for your comments..
TBH I got bored and then looked at the comments, but still I am not sure of how to get many things and randomly clicking in hopes that I'll find some info/hint wasn't fun for me so for now I stopped playing. Didn't find any content yet, but I guess it's better to wait for updates.

BTW I do like puzzle games, adventure games and point-and-click games, but imo there should be better balance between hints, realism, grind and clarity, especially for an erotic game.

Thanks for the answer and good luck.
 

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TBH I got bored and then looked at the comments, but still I am not sure of how to get many things and randomly clicking in hopes that I'll find some info/hint wasn't fun for me so for now I stopped playing. Didn't find any content yet, but I guess it's better to wait for updates.

BTW I do like puzzle games, adventure games and point-and-click games, but imo there should be better balance between hints, realism, grind and clarity, especially for an erotic game.

Thanks for the answer and good luck.
Will take this on.. and do what I can to offer more in the hints and new user guide to get players starter... Hopefully future updates my peak your interest again :)
 
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Hello.

Thanks to your explainations, I was able to go further. Though I'll start with this general observation : as a game, it's well made, creative and original but as a player, it isn't user friendly. An introduction and a tutorial should solve this issue.

The summary, samples and tags made me come. And the result is frustrating.

The worldbuilding is correct.
The characters are numerous and different.
The plot is simple, usual and can lead everywhere.
The photos are well chosen and the map is well made.

Not knowing how the game works makes the experience difficult. I had to continue by testing little by little and after your answer, I was able to try other possibilities and time period but it's still tedious.
Most of the actions available are the interactions with NPC at the start and it's strange. We have to reach school hours, not without difficulty, to unlock other ones.
The school system is interesting but also confusing. We can choose everything, from what we want to study to who we want to talk, making meaningless lessons if we speak with other students.
The stats are difficult to grind (once a day). The same with gathering relationship points.
The various items we can find : are they just supposed to be stocked? For example, the music CD can't be put back in the room once taken? Having items lying around could unfold events like a family member finding the porn mag could lead to either a sex scene (masturbation with father/blowjob with the girls) or a loss of relationhip (more corruption/dom but less like/love) or tidying our room for relationship gains or money. Is it mandatory to take an item to use it?

The schedule seems fluid but does that mean there's no repercussion for missing something like not going to school, not working a week, not talking to somebody for a long period?

At school, in class, the teachers should be separated from the students in the portrait section.

When we exceed a certain hour (I think 0:00), we don't have the going to sleep option anymore.


Ok, so for now it's just one save and it isn't automatic. It works fine but it's a strange system for an HTML game.


For that you need money, so being able to get a job and avoiding bullies (unless they can also take your phone and other items) and at the start of the game it's something far away.


You say it's avoidable but, when we interact with somebody, we can only accept.


Well, I understand what you want to do but we shouldn't loose our money the first time we meet them.
And that's more or less what I did : I avoided every student and only talked to adults. So finding Arnold and Coco is left for another try.


As a switch (top/bottom and dom/sub), I want to congratulate you for that.


I'm not that much into incest but, to cover everything, you should have included a brother. Also, dating mother/sister/grandma but not father/grandfather is strange.


So that means one official and many fuck buddies? With or without repercutions? Open relationship or not?


That's odd. How do you become bi/gay then? By watching the specific porn? And do you lose it if you go after more women than men?


You should also consider other family activities like watching TV, barbecue party in the garden, an outing to the beach, anything you can find. The same with other families (something with Coco's or Jordi's family for example), with a group of common friends (reading together at the library, goind to the park with the athletic ones), with the group of bullies together, with many teachers in their restroom... Well, everything you see fitting.


Seeing this, is voyeurism mandatory? And is it more stumbling upon or voluntarily peep?


Everything is interesting but did you think about locked items outside doors like chest/box, chains...
The book at the library is already a good first step.


If it's with a man then yes. Also, some people consider anything dick related to be gay.

As for sissification, is it obligatory to said character or will a normal gay relationship be available? I don't find feminine men appealing so I want to know if it will be worth seducing them or only have them as friends.



It made me think of A Spell for All instead. But every other HTML game can serve for inspiration.

I think that's enough for now.

Good continuation.

Hello and WOW... Thanks for the massive feedback.. Really enjoyed reading this.
Gonna try answer it all..
I'm defo going to add a page of introduction to new players (everyone who isnt me) to explain some basic things and get them familar with the set up.. To be fair its not the same as any other game anyone has played with it being an original engine and ui and new creator.. so I really should have realised that people might need a little help.. Infact from the last 24 hours, this has been the biggest point I have taken.

The school lessons, i did want to force anyone into as I felt it would take away from the time you could be going doing other things.. So the lessons are really there for you to level certain stats and to get more friendly with the teacher.
It shouldnt have been too hard to get to the lesson time.. Did you use the time skip button on the top right? School lessons start at 10 but people start arriving at 9am.. there are then a series of lessons 2 hour lunch and a few more lessons. and an hour after school where some NPCs are still about (might be some content there!).
You are correct that skills are a bit hard to grind.. but that is partly down to the lack of early game content.. I want to make more content you can complete with lower stats, but in doing so will gain you more stats..
Some stats can be grinded by two different way (charisma for instance). And relationships can be improved via talking and texting (if you have phone)..

You are right that some items like the CD was put there mostly to test the systems of picking up, and putting in your storage box or putting clothes on or into wardrobe. (certain clothes can effect a stat).. I was also making certain items sellable (but only to one shopNPC.. at current these are arnold and the shopkeep, and kinda the librian but she is for books only).

regarding reprecussions to not doing something like going to school or working or speaking to someone for a time. I am thinking about how they could be implemented but at the same time I dont want push the user to have to do certain things every day leaving them no time to do other content.. I think the most I would probably implement in the future would be to say that you have to attend a lesson at least x number of times a week or you mother grounds you for the weekend.. or something to that effect..

Yes at the moment that sleep option is only available for certain hours (before midnight.. but this could easily be tweeked to include say 1-5am)... will think about this..

Regarding the teachers coming out of the npc box and appearing somewhere else.. I might rebuild the lesson.. so it appears as an action button in the action panel.. and leave the teacher where they are, but you can talk to them (but that will not trigger a lesson..)

The bullying might give an option to try to run.. with a random chance to succeed..
At the moment the bully can only take some money.. (i might limit this to 1 bully a day).
I am thinking that you might be able to bargin with them to get them a pic of your sister by next day or pay double.. or something like that.. or depending on the bully to be able to offer sexual fav.. but this is going to have to be avoidable, so would probably only trigger if the player has taken the mc down a certain path and therefore is open to that content..

Yes so the mc starts off straight but as you raise the bi stat you will be more open to gay bi content when its available..
Would come from initially watching the right porn.. but then there is also a certain park toilet and a school friend who is going help lead you do some paths.. and also there will be a few other chars who are going to force you down that path (so to speak, but by force i mean forced bi content , that you have chosen to engange in.. this will be avoidable to anyone reading this who is concerned)..

Voyuerism as with all other content will be optional.. like at the moment you can choose to spy on your sister in the bathroom in the morning.. or you can choose not to.. you can choose to walk in on your mother in the shower..

Family and group events are defo something that will come..

I am going to try to make content like you said for both sub / dom and not keen on that stuff..

Regarding the bullies.. then I could try and put in a first encounter with each that warns the player that next time they see them they are going to bully them.. that would avoid losing money straight off the bat...

At the moment its going to be one partner which will open them up to more content.. but you will be able to split from them.. and get back with them or someone else.. I just got to work on how that is all going to come together :s

A locked chest might well be an idea.. or a locked diary... will keep in mind!

Yes as what people class as gay/bi and what others do is different..then I guess all content being avoidable should allow people to pick and choose..

i have played a spell for all.. but again its not one of the game I remember that well...

And again thank you for your great feedback.. it is really encouraging and helpful :)
 
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I've had it! Click, click, click, grind, grind, grind....
The majority of the images are non-viewable unless I make copies and rename them, since my system is Linux and uses Case Sensitive file calls so I never see any images unless I copy the directories and rename them or edit the game file to make them uniform.
Then ... HOW THE F%$ am I supposed to know who bullies are? I worked out every day and have run into bullies and suddenly I can't even talk to my sister? SHE'S extorting money now? When she likes me?! I've a like in the thirties and she's extorting money?! Only one Pound Sterling a day for an allowance?! WAY unbalanced! Where's the game interaction? I get the very same responses time and again, why bother clicking on someone? Talk about frustrating. Then not to be able to regain some of the unfairly removed stats because I'm not able to edit the save because there is no save? I STILL can't get a date. I got one lousy piccie with her like at over 62? That's it?! Then NOTHING in the hints appear to be the actual values?! WHY?! I need DOUBLE what they call for?! HOW MANY MORE WEEKS OF GAME TIME TO ACHIEVE THEM? I have 35 Like on the shop keep and I STILL can't get a job?! -- FORGET IT!
 
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