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There is a very good explanation for the license plate on the MC's car. It comes with the car asset, and the bastard who makes the renders for the game (me) was too damned oblivious and lazy to change it in the beginning, and changing it later would not have made any sense.
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Our story is about a couple, the MC and his sexually repressed and inexperienced wife, who are expanding their sexual horizons. As it goes on, she becomes more sexually outgoing. In doing so, she becomes more daring, and finds she enjoys it. As does her husband. They find being with other couples is something that excites them, and makes their own sex life better together as well. This is the main path of the story. It is about them opening themselves up to knew experiences, which is kind of explained by the MC's boss and his wife. So, no, there is no way to avoid swinging. That kink was the entire reason for making the game, which then expanded to other paths, such as hotwife and cheating.
While some games may make swinging a path you can choose, that was never our intent in making ALWL.
I 100% get that if the mc cheats then Mary gets to have her revenge, eye for an eye and all that. none of that bothers me.. the part that I just cant get behind is the mcs reaction. Its just feels so out of character for him. It would be something if we where playing a weak beta ntr protagonist but that's never been who the mc is, or at least my interpretation of him in the slightest. He is a good looking dude who is able to have sex with some nice women and doesn't have any confidence issues what so ever. I just don't buy that he would suddenly be pathetic like he is after she cheats. I know you guys said you don't want early endings... but you've kind of jumped the gun on the cheating stuff if this nonsense is gonna keep going on. His reactions are just so out of character. There's no way he wouldn't be getting divorce lawyer already and the way he has acted all throughout the story he would of attacked the dude in the laundry room 100%. Its just not remotely believable that he just goes and sits in the car while she finishes up lol. If anything the mc would escalate this and shit would get even more out of hand until the inevitable divorce. There a lots of parts of this game that are great and I really like the other parts but to 180 the mcs personality just to try to fit this path just doesn't really work for me and it ends up feeling more comical than some grand revenge plot with its absurdities. I know there's porn logic and suspension of disbelief but there's only so far they stretch.
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Ive already said this 100 times and even Endes subbing on patreon over it, but the dev's ears are rathe deaf on this. At any other occasion, there are choices for Fred being a dick, only to have him accept Mary's cheating nearly without any consequences.
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I mean there wouldn't be so much additional effort regrading renders and such to give fred the option to curse on Mary, be angry, even threatening her with divorce (just not go for it - yet) in regard of renders and such. Just throw a bunch of negative trust, ah points and maybe even cheat count on Fred....
I mean, its so deep into porn logic and beyond suspension of disbelief that they are continuing their relationship yet, so that continuing the plot despite Fred being angry wouldn't add much more additional unrealism.
Your logic is like “I'm a thief and I got caught by the cops. I will get angry, yell at them and fight for my freedom and put the blame on cops for catching me, no matter I’m the culprit.”
As you mentioned in your post itself,
1. It’s a game.
2. It’s about your “decision making” as a player.
3. Cheating leads to revenge cheating.
Fred does get angry. Not in magnitude that you are expecting. Read through the dialogues post the cheating scene, the dialogue variations are there. They cannot separate at this point. We did not want to have game end scene in the middle of chapters. Simarimas did spend a month on adding additional dialogues for each scene in Chapter 5 where they are in frame, just so they don’t be like nothing happened. Their conversations have turned rather negative and sarcastic. You will see the difference in dialogue if you play through different paths (most of it in C5).
I appreciate your honesty for posting your opinion here and keeping it within our game thread. Unlike a few who can’t keep it to our game thread and make negative posts all over the game in other game threads.
Dude, can you please move on? We are not hear to make YOU alone happy. This is OUR game, OUR story and we have spent years developing this. We have come across many people with feedback’s and suggestions and we have incorporated most of them. But in your case, Devs are rather deaf on your post because you are deaf enough to not listen to what Dev’s are saying. And keep repeating same thing again and again and also instigate other people here.
For the nth time, if you are not happy with the game mechanism, we are not stopping you to move on. PLEASE, MOVE ON.
*Mary cheats on Fred*
Fred “Fuck you, Mary. You are such a slut and a terrible wife. I’ll file for divorce”
Mary “Okay.”
*Game ends*
There you go, that’s the reaction from Fred you were hoping for.
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Why is it the end of the game? You can create a separate chapter where Mary and Fred get divorced. It makes sense that Mary would sue Fred for half of his assets, maybe even more if she mentions that they're divorcing because of his cheating. During the divorce, Mary periodically calls Fred and tells him who she recently fucked. Mary also turns everyone Fred knows against him, telling them what an arsehole and a horndog he is. Fred realises what an idiot he's been, but there's nothing he can do about it. At the end of the chapter, Fred is fired from his job because publicity about his infidelity is bad for the company's reputation. Fred becomes an alcoholic and a morally depraved man. Mary get married to one of the men of your choice: Logan, Jacob, Bryce, etc. The End
Well, that can work. We might actually do this as a standalone game. Thanks for the idea.Why is it the end of the game? You can create a separate chapter where Mary and Fred get divorced. It makes sense that Mary would sue Fred for half of his assets, maybe even more if she mentions that they're divorcing because of his cheating. During the divorce, Mary periodically calls Fred and tells him who she recently fucked. Mary also turns everyone Fred knows against him, telling them what an arsehole and a horndog he is. Fred realises what an idiot he's been, but there's nothing he can do about it. At the end of the chapter, Fred is fired from his job because publicity about his infidelity is bad for the company's reputation. Fred becomes an alcoholic and a morally depraved man. Mary get married to one of the men of your choice: Logan, Jacob, Bryce, etc. The End
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I love how this scene plays out.
Humiliation talk really turns me on but only if it's from a girl.
If a guy did it, I would punch him in the face, so I really like how Rachel responded.
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If a guy did it, I would punch him in the face, so I really like how Rachel responded.
I already wrote about this above, but I mostly disagreed with me. Throughout the game, the MC, through his actions, not only liberated his wife, but also corrupted her. As a result, she turned into a whore. So it was just a matter of time before she cheated. This is quite realistic. Another thing is that the game too rarely gives a chance to say “stop” to some things that seem excessive to the player.
Wrong. She cheats if Fred cheat on her and not because they started exploring stuff.
Can you give a few examples? I don't think there are sex scenes that are forced on players. Showing off her body is treated as exhibitionism and not actual cheating.
I don't like Jacob, maybe because old/young is really not my fetish. it would have been nice to have the choice on hot wife path to say no to Mary
This was something that was aligned to the path and not the individual scene. So if you are already on hotwife path, you'd see the scene.
But I get your point there. We'll see what we can do. Once the game is complete, we might relook at these scenes and add choices along with other changes that we plan to do.
Thanks for the input though..
Why can’t exhibitionism be excessive? Openly flashing your bare tits and flirting with a stranger on the beach while your husband is watching. In my opinion, this is already beyond the boundaries of flirting. Or the dancing scene without panties. Well, at least you can refuse the subsequent scene of sex with strangers and cuckolding of the MC.
And I noticed one more strange thing. At least all the scenes until Chapter 5 when Mary flirts or fucks with other men, she is required to wear revealing clothes, sexy lingerie and high heels. While in the scenes with her husband she is completely naked. As far as I remember, only once did she pamper her husband with lace lingerie and stockings with stiletto heels. And in general, their sex is quite simple, without any “zest”. Is this intentional? Why are you doing this to MC? This is not fair to him.
I feel like people are just taking advantage of dev's patience here at this point. Don't penalize them for actively engaging on the site.
That's not really my logic at all and im sorry I wasn't able to express more Cleary why I don't like the path but your crime analogy may help me do that. When your caught for a crime there is usually due process and when your a judged guilty there are mitigating factors taken into account. None of that happens here(unless you where drunk if I recall). Its just black and white with absolutely no regard for how their relationship was in the past.
So if you play as a non jerk Fred who has high trust and helped Mary with everything but made one fuck up then I think the mc would be fully justified in being way more angry and not just accepting the shit she's doing. I could understand this path if you had a low trust score and mc is a jerk, hell id be routing for Mary the whole way, but if your playing as a decent person you get the same sentence. To me this paths biggest problem is continuity with everything that happens in the rest of the game. This path fells like no matter what you did or how you behaved in the game up to that point(aside from cheating) non of it is considered and the two main characters become caricatures of themselves. I don't think we will agree on any of this I just hope I was more clear with my reasons this time. Like I said above I really enjoy this game and the other paths so ill just stick to those from now on.
Fred was there, he watched, he didn't mind and he liked it. So yeah, in real life we don't see this quite often but again, what do you expect in a game with tag "Exhibitionism"?
If you are referring to birthday party - Porn game, exhibitionism tag, no penetration, with mask on and with husband's consent, I don't see a problem there.
This is not intentional. However the sex between Fred and Mary remained very simple until they opened up and explored. Also if you noticed, we didn't really show the full sex scene of Mary & Fred, that's because we wanted to target other paths for which this game exist i.e, Swinging/Sharing and we decided to give more screentime for those scenes that the Fred and Mary sex scenes.
So you mean Mary and Fred should talk about these stuff post it happened? We have put some scenes where either of them confront the other one for their behaviour...may it be the picnic scene post gloryhole, confrontation after flashing Johnny and Lexi, Confrontation after Shaun photoshoot, chat in the car after Jacob scene. So yeah, as I mentioned earlier they do talk about it, but not to the extent that you want them to.
Elaborate the 'shit' here? If it's the cheating you are referring to, Mary won't do shit if fred didn't. If it's the teasing, flirting, flashing... Don't forget the main reason why this game exist. They are exploring to spice up their sex life. Been to Therapist, advised to do roleplay and stuff. They mutually decide to do more...
That's the personal opinion, isn't it? Some don't like cheating path, they believe Hotwife is nicely done. Some say hotwife is not their cup of tea, they liked the vanilla path better. And you didn't like vanilla but other paths. So that's your personal preference I guess.
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