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We are trying to! Hope you enjoy the rest of the game, and I look forward to hearing what you think.
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I am guessing you have never been around real people. If you think people can't be vindictive assholes, who think what they are doing is 'out of love' then you need to get out more.
I have known countless women who's boyfriends/husbands beat them, cheat on them, abuse them, and she keeps coming back for more, because he says he loves her. I have known several guys like this as well.
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With that, I have to go back to work. I will answer other questions, when I get back home this evening. Have a great day all!
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yeah I played it and honestly don't see it as a big deal anyways. I have yet to see how it plays out in this update but I checked out the "game over" people complained about not ready to play the update just yet. I don't see the big deal of the whole "game over" thing, it just takes you in another direction of branching for the final update and ends the update quickly which makes sense , since this game is about Fred and Mary not just Fred. Not like Fred is building a harem or has a second secret girlfriend all of his cheating was a fling and nothing serious. Sure they could of spent extra time to show scenes of him kicking Mary out and packing her bags small things like that but wasn't needed either and waste of time especially for a path they didn't want to introduce to begin with.
also simarimas not sure what kind of game your next one will be but if it has some similar elements to this one if I may id have a recommendation even if it's a bit early since you still have Chapter 6 to create. If it has NTR and you handle it the same as this one where it depends on how often and how many times the MC cheats. I think it was a bit of a missed opportunity in this game on the cheating path that all the times Fred cheats was a fling but never had a secret girlfriend. Tho that might of been a bit to much out of character for Fred to have such a path all the same I think that could of been an interesting alternative path on the cheating branch.
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humiliation doesn't have to come from just speech but action can be a form of humiliation too. There is even dialogue where Mary says it is humiliating for her. Now im not defending Mary's action or anything on the cheating path but the humiliation is there. Granted more so for what Mary does to Fred but from Mary's pov it is as well if you read all of her dialogue and not skip over it because you dislike the cheating path granted it's not nearly as bad as what she did to Fred.
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If you go to loverslab.com, then your PG Sims isn't PG anymore. LoL. But I agree with you. That person is just looking for a gripe. I'm not anywhere near the paths yet, but it appears to me he or she is just complaining to complain and just to fill the page with their "NO-NTR!" rhetoric.
No, most people do not consider swinging to be ntr. If you went up to a person on the street (and had the requisite conversation about what this silly ntr term actually is with its japanese roots), and asked them if that was the same as a swinger couple, they'd laugh if they were still listening.
Why do devs have to kowtow to this loud group of perpetual loners online? I'm guessing nearly no one in this group actually subs.
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yeah and said NTR path is his own damn fault for playing that route if he really dislikes it so much he could of gone for the hotwife path and not cheat or just ignored this game lol
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Ignore that dude, he will get tired once he realizes no one is paying attention to his nonsense and he'll go to another thread to start the same thing over and over again.
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I know I'm a bit dumb but are people really surprised that if Fred cheats that Mary would too?
Personally, I think it's awesome that she doesn't just do brush it off and forgive him if he continuously cheats.
It makes the choices feel even more important.
Personally, I think it's awesome that she doesn't just do brush it off and forgive him if he continuously cheats.
It makes the choices feel even more important.
100% agreed - even if I'm sticking on pure romance paths I'd much rather there be negative consequences for picking 'negative' choices, makes one's decisions feel impactful. The opposite of this, sadly the norm, is where mc can creep, perv, and philander as hard as he wants and it makes no difference, making those choices feel irrelevant.
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Oh, like in all those harem games? Where the women just accept that it's ok?
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Nothing annoys me more than the creepy rapist looking MC's you see in so many games. It's really a turn off for me.
Another reason I don't play those sorts of games much unless it's for some hot lesbian action but that doesn't always happen unfortunately.
"No, most people do not consider swinging to be ntr. If you went up to a person on the street (and had the requisite conversation about what this silly ntr term actually is with its japanese roots), and asked them if that was the same as a swinger couple, they'd laugh if they were still listening."
Anyone would laugh and/or be disgusted if you asked a question about cuckoldry with a straight face. Most people are naive to the term "NTR" (lucky for them), so they'd be completely bewildered if you specified NTR. But if people were forced to give an honest answer about it, the average person would consider cuckoldry, swinging, and all of the various synonyms to be the same thing. 98% of people would never let their wife/girlfriend "swing" because it's the same thing as cheating to almost everyone. Any sane person would be pissed off and jealous if their wife had sex with another guy, regardless of the context. It's only a small niche of terminally online copers like yourself, in specific threads of specific forums, who are trying to insist that one of these synonyms is outside the umbrella of cuckoldry/NTR.
And it is the overwhelming majority of people who are disgusted by these fetishes. Devs are not kowtowing to anyone by putting NTR tags on games that have NTR. Or maybe if you don't want games to be tagged with "NTR", they should make a new, lengthy tag, like "Most people would be extremely disgusted by the content found within this game".
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Too many teenagers or teenaged brains playing those games.
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Well... The thing is. Swinging is both. Cheating is just one. You can't swing if your just one person. So I don't see swinging as NTR. Any sane person would say this, i think. To me, NTR is not just cheating, as seen in the eyes of the anti-NTR people. It is anyone who has ever in their lives had sex with someone that is not the MC. So, even the MC's mom would have committed NTR because she had sex with the MC's dad to create him and his siblings (if there are any). Which then would make all games NTR games. This game would be counted as NTR if the MC messes with the neighborhood women, as they are married and have had sex with their husbands. That is, as I said before, if it isn't Swinging.
No. Absolutely not. I adamantly reject this hypothesis.
Most people off the street definitely do not use cuckoldry and swinging interchangeably. If I told my friend or girlfriend "See that couple over there, they're actually swingers!" her reaction would be like "OMG weird!"
If i told her "Yeah that couple over there, the guy is a cuckold and she fucks around then tells him about it" she'd be like "OMG that's kinda sad". Totally different things.
Ironically, off the street people would be much more LIKELY to equate terms like "harem" and "sex slave ring", at least in the modern day context where the former regularly occurs.
I don't know why I'm getting goaded into this debate, ill stop now, the game has both swinging and netorare tags, so frankly I don't even know what we're arguing....both are there in broad daylight, but you seem to be saying one shouldn't be there? or the tags have no use? I dont know, and I shouldnt care.
Oh so you're just replying to comments without any idea why they were made in the first place. That's not my problem. Go back a page or two if you are confused. Surely it will take less time than typing 200 words.
"If I told my friend or girlfriend "See that couple over there, they're actually swingers!" her reaction would be like "OMG weird!"
If i told her "Yeah that couple over there, the guy is a cuckold and she fucks around then tells him about it" she'd be like "OMG that's kinda sad". Totally different things."
That sort of casual broaching of swinging/cuckoldry strikes me as really unnatural. I can't imagine anyone talking like this. Even just trying to talk about it in a forum like this is pretty odd. Swinging and cuckoldry both go against the most basic instinct of a human.
And I'm sure if you added on "and his girlfriend is pregnant with some other guy's kid" her reaction would be a lot different. But that doesn't mean that swinging, or god forbid, "normal" cuckoldry in general are somehow not cuckoldry now. Swinging is not as bad as the second example you gave, but it's still NTR by definition, because it would illicit jealousy in the vast majority of people.
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Okay, simarimas . One thing I would suggest is, the poker games. Each time you play it, the MC tells the girl it is his first time. I'm on the second game, tried both girls, and they both say the same. Maybe, if you can, you should make it where it knows it's your second time playing, and says something to the effect. Something like "I've only played once or twice before" or something. Just a thought.