yup bro... 5 star but no creampie scenes.. hurm... the game the story and graphic for me perfect but for scenes hurm... sad... mc cant choose where he want to cum... and cumshots...
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the 2 others are scenes from previous episode. It also disturbed me so i have download the WT & galery mod, and that's just it. But it's strange to not be able to view those scenes, you feel like you have missed something
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I know there's a thin line between drawing things out, teasing, slow burns, and just straight blue balling. I can't say whether or not everybody will be happy with how things progress. I'm never intentionally trying to frustrate people. I don't plan on rushing the story but I'm going to put out updates as fast as I'm capable. I think that's the only way to do things fairly for those waiting for content without compromising the story I want to tell.
Thanks. I don't want to go too much in-depth on all your points to avoid me typing more walls of text but I enjoy productive discussion.
- I don't mind feedback, good or bad. I can only see things from my own view. It helps open my eyes to what I'm doing right and wrong. I can't make the best game for everybody but I want to make the best game for the people who do like it.
- There are a lot of games available now with different themes but I know for sure my idea isn't completely original and I'm going for a male power fantasy, whether or not it seems like. I can't please everybody but I hope somebody is.
- I don't want to go into spoilers but I have plans for everybody and how relationships will develop. The next two episodes will show more clearly the dynamics of Vanessa and MC's relationship.
- I'm not going to rush anything. If someone likes the game now, I'm going to make sure they keep getting more of what they like. If they don't like it, maybe they'll come back later to see if things are better. My goal is to make sure everything is consistent though and give everybody what they think they're getting. I know it'd be a big mistake to change things all of a sudden.
Sorry, when I added a scene gallery, it meant locking old scenes in the code. So even though you might have seen them, the new code wasn't triggered to unlock the scene. I should've added the scene gallery from the start but didn't know how to. From now on, every new scene will be unlocked once you see it.
Thanks for playing.
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I really like Harlow a lot. But then the girl as always the dev turns her into a stripper. Really a sweet girl I liked. Think I stopped playing at that point. Btw there is no stripping tag on this game, If it had been there I wouldn't have played. Not into strippers and whores.
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Just played through all 3 episodes in one go, and I love it.
Nice to see the Dev laying out his plans and reasoning and I think that is great too.
There are plenty of "Girl opens her legs after 5 minutes" supposed VN games.
There are plenty of long-term tease games with minimal plot, just minimal sexual progression each update.
This is something different.
A plot that makes reasonable sense ( the 3 reasons the MC does what he does).
Five different main ladies who are individually different, and helped by the setting of a class-divided city.
Each girl has her own motivations, but already I can see a sense of where that might link to the MC's targets.
The 'points' system is where I got confused, and so came looking in this thread to try to understand it.
From what I read the Dev saying is that it doesn't matter too much - so far.
There are some different immediate reactions to some choices - but that doesn't seem to last too long.
For example I played safe with Riley to start with using Knight, but recently started using Flirt and got the impression she was shutting me down.
With Erika however Flirt seems to work, - she stays businesslike, but promises a special time once results are achieved.
Vanessa just seems so indifferent - but you know there is a reason, and you just have to wait until you discover it, - so I have gone Knight every time so far.
The Dean, Kate, started Knight and I have mixed it up later on.
That's the intriguing thing - as you play the story, and each girl, I find I look at the 3 choices and 'feel' that one applies best to the situation. To me that means the story is working, you are suffering 'immersion'.
It goes contrary to a lot of other games where you have to hit a certain number of a certain type of points to see the action.
The Dev said his scoring system sets up how the girls perceive the MC, and so it hints that it will affect the relationship in some way.
I mean - if you play Smooth with Kate, is it likely she will fuck you?
Having said that, I stayed polite with Jordan and she jumped on me, so what do I know?
The only thought I had was somehow combining the 3 stats to give an overall idea of how you were progressing towards eventually bedding the girl. So if you hit the right balance of the 3 types of answer, relative to the girl in question then at the end of the update you got a rating out of 10.
So with Kate after episode one, if you have used all or mostly 'Knight' you may have 9/10
and if you had used the Joker and Flirt you might only be 3/10 for example.
Interestingly it may not matter at all with the way the Dev plans his ending, as it could just be about the MC achieving his goals.
The choice of which girl or girls he ends up with could be purely the player's choice.
There are a couple of times when odd things make you wonder, but hardly noticeable.
Somebody mentioned the "YO" which I agree with.
The final thing is that I hope the plot doesn't stagnate and get dragged out - the game seems well paced so far, and let's hope the Dev gives it a good finish and moves on to his next game, with a big success in his locker.
Nice to see the Dev laying out his plans and reasoning and I think that is great too.
There are plenty of "Girl opens her legs after 5 minutes" supposed VN games.
There are plenty of long-term tease games with minimal plot, just minimal sexual progression each update.
This is something different.
A plot that makes reasonable sense ( the 3 reasons the MC does what he does).
Five different main ladies who are individually different, and helped by the setting of a class-divided city.
Each girl has her own motivations, but already I can see a sense of where that might link to the MC's targets.
The 'points' system is where I got confused, and so came looking in this thread to try to understand it.
From what I read the Dev saying is that it doesn't matter too much - so far.
There are some different immediate reactions to some choices - but that doesn't seem to last too long.
For example I played safe with Riley to start with using Knight, but recently started using Flirt and got the impression she was shutting me down.
With Erika however Flirt seems to work, - she stays businesslike, but promises a special time once results are achieved.
Vanessa just seems so indifferent - but you know there is a reason, and you just have to wait until you discover it, - so I have gone Knight every time so far.
The Dean, Kate, started Knight and I have mixed it up later on.
That's the intriguing thing - as you play the story, and each girl, I find I look at the 3 choices and 'feel' that one applies best to the situation. To me that means the story is working, you are suffering 'immersion'.
It goes contrary to a lot of other games where you have to hit a certain number of a certain type of points to see the action.
The Dev said his scoring system sets up how the girls perceive the MC, and so it hints that it will affect the relationship in some way.
I mean - if you play Smooth with Kate, is it likely she will fuck you?
Having said that, I stayed polite with Jordan and she jumped on me, so what do I know?
The only thought I had was somehow combining the 3 stats to give an overall idea of how you were progressing towards eventually bedding the girl. So if you hit the right balance of the 3 types of answer, relative to the girl in question then at the end of the update you got a rating out of 10.
So with Kate after episode one, if you have used all or mostly 'Knight' you may have 9/10
and if you had used the Joker and Flirt you might only be 3/10 for example.
Interestingly it may not matter at all with the way the Dev plans his ending, as it could just be about the MC achieving his goals.
The choice of which girl or girls he ends up with could be purely the player's choice.
There are a couple of times when odd things make you wonder, but hardly noticeable.
Somebody mentioned the "YO" which I agree with.
The final thing is that I hope the plot doesn't stagnate and get dragged out - the game seems well paced so far, and let's hope the Dev gives it a good finish and moves on to his next game, with a big success in his locker.
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played it for the first time today (with mod, have not always taken the optimal option which was suggest in it) and it was really good.
ok, the name suggest it... a man 4all, but i hope s out the mc turn to be a manwhore.
all in all so far it is very enjoyable
ok, the name suggest it... a man 4all, but i hope s out the mc turn to be a manwhore.
all in all so far it is very enjoyable
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So...do the Kinght/Joker/Flirt stats do anything other than change dialogue? I did not scan through each script, but not seeing the stats flagged for any particular purpose (unless I'm far too hungover and missed the forest for the trees). Thanks/regards.
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Greeting,
these Points are just for flavor. I found it very interesting to have the choice of what I can say to the girls. It helps me to get myself immerse more with the MC.
In terms of content: These points will don't block you from any content. Only there to show you how you have been to the girls.
If the next update is good I really consider tossing a coin to the project.
No pressure dev.
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Thanks for your thoughts, guys.
There aren't any flags hidden in the three-colored dialogue choices and I don't really plan on it. The dialogue choices were designed for a few reasons, as I've mentioned before. The main reason is that I want you to put yourself in the MC's shoes. Often times in VNs, we're forced to say things in regards to relationships that we would never say. Maybe you want to flirt with a girl. Maybe you don't. I'll leave that up to you.
The reason the stats appear only at the end of the episode is to tell you where you're leaning. It's not supposed to be a warning or influence you in a different direction. So, you should be thinking "Oh, I've been flirting with Kate a lot." You shouldn't be thinking "Oh, I've been flirting with Kate a lot, I'd better her start telling her more jokes." It's a scoreboard more than anything else.
There will be differences in how the girls look at you depending on how you lean later on in the game, but you'll never be gated or miss 'content' for being too flirty or too funny. For one, I don't want to penalize someone for picking the choice they want. And two, it just doesn't make sense since the dialogues won't completely define your relationship and the story.
So, the dialogue choices matter for that variance. But it won't have a major impact compared to bigger decisions. I put a bunch of differences in the dialogue so that people could spend more time reading it and less time looking at a PDF in another window, trying to make the right choices. This is just for the dialogue system with three-colored choices. More consequential decisions should be more obvious, like deciding whether or not to have sex with someone.
Don't look at dialogue between trying to decide between right and wrong choices. Look at it as deciding what the best choice is.
Feel free to leave more questions, suggestions, or complaints. I'm around.
For what I have planned and want to do, we're still early in the story. New characters will be introduced in Episode 4.
There aren't any flags hidden in the three-colored dialogue choices and I don't really plan on it. The dialogue choices were designed for a few reasons, as I've mentioned before. The main reason is that I want you to put yourself in the MC's shoes. Often times in VNs, we're forced to say things in regards to relationships that we would never say. Maybe you want to flirt with a girl. Maybe you don't. I'll leave that up to you.
The reason the stats appear only at the end of the episode is to tell you where you're leaning. It's not supposed to be a warning or influence you in a different direction. So, you should be thinking "Oh, I've been flirting with Kate a lot." You shouldn't be thinking "Oh, I've been flirting with Kate a lot, I'd better her start telling her more jokes." It's a scoreboard more than anything else.
There will be differences in how the girls look at you depending on how you lean later on in the game, but you'll never be gated or miss 'content' for being too flirty or too funny. For one, I don't want to penalize someone for picking the choice they want. And two, it just doesn't make sense since the dialogues won't completely define your relationship and the story.
So, the dialogue choices matter for that variance. But it won't have a major impact compared to bigger decisions. I put a bunch of differences in the dialogue so that people could spend more time reading it and less time looking at a PDF in another window, trying to make the right choices. This is just for the dialogue system with three-colored choices. More consequential decisions should be more obvious, like deciding whether or not to have sex with someone.
Don't look at dialogue between trying to decide between right and wrong choices. Look at it as deciding what the best choice is.
Feel free to leave more questions, suggestions, or complaints. I'm around.
I won't drag things on for the sake of dragging things on. I want to have a lot of fun with the story, and that involves a lot of things happening. I'm looking at everything in the big picture sense (saving Billy's, graduating, relationships with the girls) and the small picture, too (all of the little things that add up to the big picture). It may feel like it might be dragging on for some with everything I have planned, but it's not intentional.
For what I have planned and want to do, we're still early in the story. New characters will be introduced in Episode 4.
No pressure dev.
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Thank you for the input and it's been a fine romp so far, but have to remark on some rather overdone dialogue: Ok, the "Old Town Late Night" sequence mentions the words "Old Town" wayyy too often. No less than 30+ times to be exact. Dev, we get it, it's Old Town, at this point it's like the proverbial nails on a chalkboard reading those two words together ever again....please relax on it a bit, that dinner is now overcooked and rather burnt. I only mean this as constructive criticism, sincerely.
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I'm probably being a little heavy-handed with it. I'll go back and try to do some editing. And I'll be more conscious of it in future episodes. Thanks.
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Regards, I sincerely only mean it as a first impression response and not as anything sinister, truly only tying to point out any potential "cringe" from a perspective. Others may find that it's not an issue, but I'd be surprised honestly. Thank you for your efforts, I understand that these projects are of no small feat to produce. Regards.
Thanks for your response - great to know that we can just 'go with the flow' of what we feel at each point.
Interestingly leaving Vanessa aside where as I said I went Knight all the time, it is quite interesting that with at least 3 of the girls I now have a much more balanced 'score' at the end of the last chapter.
Also it is quite a good ploy to have side characters provide the sex scenes in a chapter, which allows you to keep building things with the 5 main LIs, but be careful.
Jordan in particular, and Marisa are both quite hot and you might find that you are getting besieged by fans to up these side characters' status to LI, and then you again risk getting yourself in to more complicated stuff and less progress on main plot lines. I already want to 'see' Jordan again - and the 'teased' idea of a threesome with her and Riley is something to look forward to.
So you already have at least 7 girls - so be careful as there can be too many women in a story.
The phrase that "sometimes less is more" can be very true in VN games.
It sounds like you have the full plot mapped out though so I'll guess you will keep it organised.
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I thought a lot when picking the right amount of girls. I couldn't throw in a boatload because I wouldn't be able to get to all of them on a regular basis. And I don't think I could manage a giant harem. Not with my skills technically or as a writer. My computer wouldn't be able to handle it either.
The main five girls will always be the main five. They'll always get at least a little bit of time. The other girls were actually designed for my supporters to voice their opinion on. I actually just posted about it on Patreon. I can see how it'll take more time to make more 'content' or appearances for the more popular side characters but that's the way I'm intending it if that's what the people want. Star Wars is about Luke and Han and Vader but if people really like a side character like Boba Fett, he should get more time, IMO. I don't mind doing the same for AMFA. I wouldn't be doing it for every character, just the ones everybody really, really likes, if there's anybody that's super popular. If the other characters aren't popular, it'll be easy to leave them on the sidelines.
The story won't be changed though. I wrote the story in a way that it makes sense even if you don't romance a single LI. I know the girls should probably be the most important thing in a porn game but I wanted a story for any potential romance to be built on.
I intend for the story to be fun. It'll be serious when it needs to be but it's going in a bunch of different directions in terms of tone. It'll be a little clearer in Episode 4.
The main five girls will always be the main five. They'll always get at least a little bit of time. The other girls were actually designed for my supporters to voice their opinion on. I actually just posted about it on Patreon. I can see how it'll take more time to make more 'content' or appearances for the more popular side characters but that's the way I'm intending it if that's what the people want. Star Wars is about Luke and Han and Vader but if people really like a side character like Boba Fett, he should get more time, IMO. I don't mind doing the same for AMFA. I wouldn't be doing it for every character, just the ones everybody really, really likes, if there's anybody that's super popular. If the other characters aren't popular, it'll be easy to leave them on the sidelines.
The story won't be changed though. I wrote the story in a way that it makes sense even if you don't romance a single LI. I know the girls should probably be the most important thing in a porn game but I wanted a story for any potential romance to be built on.
I intend for the story to be fun. It'll be serious when it needs to be but it's going in a bunch of different directions in terms of tone. It'll be a little clearer in Episode 4.
