VN Ren'Py A Perfect Marriage [v0.7.3b] [Mr Palmer]

[Couto25]

But the past scenes don't count because you never have any influence over them. And the fact that you have forced events is hopeless and the game becomes boring as hell. Next time I would like to play on a different path, but I can't because I get the same event on three different paths. which is hopeless

It's not hopeless...the characters will appear in other way...their nature will change like in faithful path you can see Chris changing to good friends with David and Jake also trying to be good friends with Ana/romantic (not sure yet) ...but the nature of characters will change. Events will happen but their nature will change..like Chris still message to Ana at night right in last update even if she rejected Chris in all points so now his nature change... we'll see as the story moves forward. Who knows if you keep rejecting hank even with unavoidable events, he will act as a father figure to Ana. We'll see.

 

[Sadowdark]

It's not hopeless...the characters will appear in other way...their nature will change like in faithful path you can see Chris changing to good friends with David and Jake also trying to be good friends with Ana/romantic (not sure yet) ...but the nature of characters will change. Events will happen but their nature will change..like Chris still message to Ana at night right in last update even if she rejected Chris in all points so now his nature change... we'll see as the story moves forward.

The creator has already presented three character changes of the false friend

1) he simply tells Anna and David the truth of what he’s learned; 2) he doesn’t say anything... instead he tries to conquer Anna while she and her marriage is at a low point; 3) he dangles the info in front of Anna, but he won't disclose the truth until she gives him something in return.

 

[sslovoe]

hoop this not boat jake talk about

 

[Sadowdark]

The old fish finally got lucky and was hired as a chef's driver.

BadHeroEp2 - https://f95zone.to/threads/bad-hero-xmas-2024-v1-4-3p-xlab.19961/

 

[Menace o Santana]

The old fish finally got lucky and was hired as a chef's driver.

BadHeroEp2 - https://f95zone.to/threads/bad-hero-xmas-2024-v1-4-3p-xlab.19961/

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Wait till May cut his dick for bein’ to touchy like the same way she was goin’ to do Frank

 

[Couto25]

The creator has already presented three character changes of the false friend

1) he simply tells Anna and David the truth of what he’s learned; 2) he doesn’t say anything... instead he tries to conquer Anna while she and her marriage is at a low point; 3) he dangles the info in front of Anna, but he won't disclose the truth until she gives him something in return.

There are no paths for chris....There are paths for MC only. For David/Ana. If Ana remain passive/corrupt wit him, Chris will take advantage of her. Maybe in passive there will be an option for not to go completely towards Chris but that's the only option... If she reject Chris, Then Chris will be a good friend. It doesnt mean that chris will not appear in the storyline...Whenever any event will happen that require chris presence, he will appear there and his nature towards Ana will depends on how Ana acted towards him. Same with all other characters...hank will act as father figure/ he will get terminated and Ana will get promotion we will see how it goes on his storyline...but you get the basic...The events that are required for the main storyline....those events will happen with few characters ....irrespective of Ana choices for them...but the nature will differ...in faithful they'll act as friend...in passive/corrupt they will go for Ana. Thats what i think will happen.

It's like real life when people try to take advantage of some girl weakness..but if she remain strong to her own principles, same events happen in her future life , and those who try to take advantage of her still appear in her day to day life whether in college or work but they know her nature and try to be normal friends with her. But if the girl give in to their moves, they will take advantage during those events. It doesnt mean that she will not meet them in college or work or those people will disappear from her life...so same way events will happen and antagonist will appear...its just their nature towards Ana will depend on choices we make for her.

 

[Sadowdark]

hoop this not boat jake talk about
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Jake has an unpaid car and debts, so this boat fits the bill perfectly

 

[Sadowdark]

There are no paths for chris....There are paths for MC only. For David/Ana. If Ana remain passive/corrupt wit him, Chris will take advantage of her. Maybe in passive there will be an option for not to go completely towards Chris but that's the only option... If she reject Chris, Then Chris will be a good friend. It doesnt mean that chris will not appear in the storyline...Whenever any event will happen that require chris presence, he will appear there and his nature towards Ana will depends on how Ana acted towards him. Same with all other characters...hank will act as father figure/ he will get terminated and Ana will get promotion we will see how it goes on his storyline...but you get the basic...The events that are required for the main storyline....those events will happen with few characters ....irrespective of Ana choices for them...but the nature will differ...in faithful they'll act as friend...in passive/corrupt they will go for Ana. Thats what i think will happen.

It's like real life when people try to take advantage of some girl weakness..but if she remain strong to her own principles, same events happen in her future life , and those who try to take advantage of her still appear in her day to day life whether in college or work but they know her nature and try to be normal friends with her. But if the girl give in to their moves, they will take advantage during those events. It doesnt mean that she will not meet them in college or work or those people will disappear from her life...so same way events will happen and antagonist will appear...its just their nature towards Ana will depend on choices we make for her.

But I know the creator's words perfectly well "even if you reject them, they will be part of the story, they will try to win Anna over and it will be up to you whether Anna will give in to them or not until the creator gives you the final choice to get rid of them forever," because otherwise he would have a problem removing them from the story.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

There are no paths for chris....There are paths for MC only. For David/Ana. If Ana remain passive/corrupt wit him, Chris will take advantage of her. Maybe in passive there will be an option for not to go completely towards Chris but that's the only option... If she reject Chris, Then Chris will be a good friend. It doesnt mean that chris will not appear in the storyline...Whenever any event will happen that require chris presence, he will appear there and his nature towards Ana will depends on how Ana acted towards him. Same with all other characters...hank will act as father figure/ he will get terminated and Ana will get promotion we will see how it goes on his storyline...but you get the basic...The events that are required for the main storyline....those events will happen with few characters ....irrespective of Ana choices for them...but the nature will differ...in faithful they'll act as friend...in passive/corrupt they will go for Ana. Thats what i think will happen.

It's like real life when people try to take advantage of some girl weakness..but if she remain strong to her own principles, same events happen in her future life , and those who try to take advantage of her still appear in her day to day life whether in college or work but they know her nature and try to be normal friends with her. But if the girl give in to their moves, they will take advantage during those events. It doesnt mean that she will not meet them in college or work or those people will disappear from her life...so same way events will happen and antagonist will appear...its just their nature towards Ana will depend on choices we make for her.

Wow, your as blind as David about Chris
you said there’s 3 different paths and if you reject Chris he will be nice to Anna?
News flash, my Anna has shot down chris everytime and he is not getting nicer, he said something about “he will get her if it’s the last thing he does, one way or another even if I have to force it (sounds very rapey)
he doesn’t care about sticking around and he might leave the city)
Something along those lines, don’t quote me, I don’t have the actual quotes in front of me, but maybe some fellow Chris haters can help me out with what he said he’s going to do if she doesnt give it to him

 

[Couto25]

But I know the creator's words perfectly well "even if you reject them, they will be part of the story, they will try to win Anna over and it will be up to you whether Anna will give in to them or not until the creator gives you the final choice to get rid of them forever," because otherwise he would have a problem removing them from the story.

They will stay in the story and same event will happen...choices will appear because few are playing same event as faithful and few are playing corrupt and outcomes will be different. That's simple. If the main story require any character presence, they will appear. Dont stick to whatever MP says...It depends on which character the story require...that character will appear no matter if you reject them 2 times or 5 times.

 

[Couto25]

Wow, your as blind as David about Chris
you said there’s 3 different paths and if you reject Chris he will be nice to Anna?
News flash, my Anna has shot down chris everytime and he is not getting nicer, he said something about “he will get her if it’s the last thing he does, one way or another even if I have to force it (sounds very rapey)
he doesn’t care about sticking around and he might leave the city)
Something along those lines, don’t quote me, I don’t have the actual quotes in front of me, but maybe some fellow Chris haters can help me out with what he said he’s going to do if she doesnt give it to him

I dont play faithful path anyways lol...i have to check what chris said on faithful path lol..I just said the character will keep appearing until the story require that character appearance lol...Lemme play faithful path and see Chris motive because i just know that Ana didnt do anything with him on faithful path.

 

[Sadowdark]

Wow, your as blind as David about Chris
you said there’s 3 different paths and if you reject Chris he will be nice to Anna?
News flash, my Anna has shot down chris everytime and he is not getting nicer, he said something about “he will get her if it’s the last thing he does, one way or another even if I have to force it (sounds very rapey)
he doesn’t care about sticking around and he might leave the city)
Something along those lines, don’t quote me, I don’t have the actual quotes in front of me, but maybe some fellow Chris haters can help me out with what he said he’s going to do if she doesnt give it to him

What if there are three paths how a false friend will behave towards Anna?

1) he simply tells Anna and David the truth of what he’s learned;
2) he doesn’t say anything... instead he tries to conquer Anna while she and her marriage is at a low point;
3) he dangles the info in front of Anna, but he won't disclose the truth until she gives him something in return.

 

[Couto25]

Wow, your as blind as David about Chris
you said there’s 3 different paths and if you reject Chris he will be nice to Anna?
News flash, my Anna has shot down chris everytime and he is not getting nicer, he said something about “he will get her if it’s the last thing he does, one way or another even if I have to force it (sounds very rapey)
he doesn’t care about sticking around and he might leave the city)
Something along those lines, don’t quote me, I don’t have the actual quotes in front of me, but maybe some fellow Chris haters can help me out with what he said he’s going to do if she doesnt give it to him

Alright...I saw dialogue of Chris on faithful route...So yea his storyline is still the same...so not a good friend but he has long way to go lol.....We will see how it goes as of now we just know he will keep trying on her...and see how he will act on leonard storyline as a mid keeper...Rob And Chris both are taking advantage of what leonard knows. And leonard require the minimum from Ana just a naked pic...but both rob and chris are trying to fuck ana based on what Leonard knows. thats hilarious. It's like Leonard needs $1 from Ana to exchange info....but Rob and Chris are capitalizing and depending on Leonard's info and want $200 each from Ana lol.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

I dont play faithful path anyways lol...i have to check what chris said on faithful path lol..I just said the character will keep appearing until the story require that character appearance lol...Lemme play faithful path and see Chris motive because i just know that Ana didnt do anything with him on faithful path.

I don’t play faithful Anna either, but I do play the ABC PATH
Anybody
But
Chris

 

[Bvxg7]

 

[sslovoe]

marvin in all game and every where lucky old man
can he win over anna
jap version of marvin

 

[Enola Ga... Man!]

i not know why this be useful or be sexy part for game in future and how she gona send jake or anyone
is this gona be part at next update for view seduce small part for future plan
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Number two, number two!

I don't know, but I'm sucker for the black lingerie. I always was.

No one asked, I know.

 

[Sadowdark]

marvin in all game and every where lucky old man
can he win over anna
jap version of marvin
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Old fish is bothering Kendra

 

[AlfredBundy4]

Those are not hidden choices...Those are ways of playing the game..1st faithful.....2nd confused....3rd corrupt...choose Ana to be confused always ...He give walkthrough in all update...where he show which one is faithful, which option is corrupt and which option is like go with the flow..mostly the one where Ana act as passive. so it's not hidden scene..it's more like yea you will get an option to leave after tease scene and not to go upto full corruption.

Which is always the funny thing about these adult VNs because 99% of players choose the route with the most sex...which is almost always the cheating/slutty route. Even if the faithful routes had as much or more sex it would get boring seeing the same characters fuck over and over again. That's basically what made a story like DMD suck so much in the back half, you can only see those two fuck so much before it's boring.

So the vast majority play one route and the devs still waste a disproportionate amount of their time on the routes nobody plays.
IMHO, in any story about a wife or GF breaking bad the majority of the faithful stuff should be baked-in and not really subject to player decisions. She's faithful for a set amount of time, an event happens to push her away or to other men and now the decisions the player makes is who to fuck. Let them choose if they see her fuck this guy or that guy but even writing, rendering and developing the faithful path beyond a certain point is ignoring the 99%. It's a really bad use of development time.
If a dev is making it a 60/40 split of their time (cheat/faithful) they could easily move it to 90/10, give the user the same exact experience and get updates out quicker.

Point systems are almost always bogus because of this. It's wasted time even making them. 99% will play one route so they'll choose the choice that adds "slut points" (or whatever each game calls them). So you'll always have the points needed to see whatever the next slut scene is.

So forget points and just do what I wrote above and have the player choose to mess around with or not mess around with each specific person in the story. They choose yes and they see that part of the story. They choose no and they don't.

Then...if the dev really gives a shit or enough players that want the minority play-style demand it...make DLC after it's done that institutes a strict faithful route. It doesn't seem hard or confusing to me. When so many prefer one story style, focus the vast majority of your time on it. Give the illusion of choice, at most.

 

[Sadowdark]

Which is always the funny thing about these adult VNs because 99% of players choose the route with the most sex...which is almost always the cheating/slutty route. Even if the faithful routes had as much or more sex it would get boring seeing the same characters fuck over and over again. That's basically what made a story like DMD suck so much in the back half, you can only see those two fuck so much before it's boring.

So the vast majority play one route and the devs still waste a disproportionate amount of their time on the routes nobody plays.
IMHO, in any story about a wife or GF breaking bad the majority of the faithful stuff should be baked-in and not really subject to player decisions. She's faithful for a set amount of time, an event happens to push her away or to other men and now the decisions the player makes is who to fuck. Let them choose if they see her fuck this guy or that guy but even writing, rendering and developing the faithful path beyond a certain point is ignoring the 99%. It's a really bad use of development time.
If a dev is making it a 60/40 split of their time (cheat/faithful) they could easily move it to 90/10, give the user the same exact experience and get updates out quicker.

Point systems are almost always bogus because of this. It's wasted time even making them. 99% will play one route so they'll choose the choice that adds "slut points" (or whatever each game calls them). So you'll always have the points needed to see whatever the next slut scene is.

So forget points and just do what I wrote above and have the player choose to mess around with or not mess around with each specific person in the story. They choose yes and they see that part of the story. They choose no and they don't.

Then...if the dev really gives a shit or enough players that want the minority play-style demand it...make DLC after it's done that institutes a strict faithful route. It doesn't seem hard or confusing to me. When so many prefer one story style, focus the vast majority of your time on it. Give the illusion of choice, at most.

The same boring path of corruption without choices because you know that FMC quickly becomes a whore, fucks everything that moves in all possible configurations. The game can be ended because there is nothing interesting that you haven't seen in similar games