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Haha9999

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Here's what I don't understand: If people stop supporting the project like you hope happens, how will that make it go any faster? I'm being 100% genuinely serious when I ask this because it makes zero sense to me. I've explained many times that I'm not a studio, I'm doing this with my free time. How would freezing me out make it go "faster?" Seems to me like it would decrease my motivation, and it would decrease the artist's motivation, so the project could actually cease to continue.

In reality, what makes me work to my potential are the people that support me on patreon, because it humbles me and makes me want to do what I can to make them happy. It puts pressure on me, tbh.

Another thing I'm having trouble understanding - I've expressed the desire to finish this project so I can make more projects. If I'm trying to maximize my earnings, wouldn't I want to parlay APM into another story, and then another after that, to continue to expand my customer base? Milking APM would limit growth - my growth as a developer in addition to growing my bank account.

I'll be eagerly awaiting your answers to explain this so-called milking operation I'm running.

And by way, the updates came quicker in the past because Parts 1 and 2 were largely kinetic. Now I'm having to write and program different scenarios, so it's taking more time than the first two parts. My effort hasn't changed since the beginning.
you're not studio, but you don't want people to help you.
I'm offering you content writing. writing will be on your style.
 

Mr_Palmer

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i cant recall saying i wanted people to unsub. End of the day its peoples money, they can do with it like they please. And obviously vn community always got some dough to shell out for nothing cause if you look at even abandoned developer pages they still get monthly income for having not released anything in years.

what you express and what you do is two different things. You can say one thing and do something else boss man as exampled by what you’ve done continuously.

keep grinding out that passive income, at the end of the day i’m just a dude bitchin’ on the internet. If it wasnt true, it wouldn’t of put you on the defense so bad.
The only thing you’ve accurately said is that you’re just a dude bitchin’ on the internet.
 

Mr_Palmer

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you're not studio, but you don't want people to help you.
I'm offering you content writing. writing will be on your style.
I might look for writing help on my next project, but this project is something I’ve wanted to write and program on my own, as it’s my first. I’m doing this for my enjoyment as much as anything else. If circumstances change or I get burnt out, I could seek help, but right now I’m enjoying it.
 

Haha9999

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I might look for writing help on my next project, but this project is something I’ve wanted to write and program on my own, as it’s my first. I’m doing this for my enjoyment as much as anything else. If circumstances change or I get burnt out, I could seek help, but right now I’m enjoying it.
I'm sending you message. if you ever need help let me know.
 
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Rockpaper345

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i cant recall saying i wanted people to unsub. End of the day its peoples money, they can do with it like they please. And obviously vn community always got some dough to shell out for nothing cause if you look at even abandoned developer pages they still get monthly income for having not released anything in years.

what you express and what you do is two different things. You can say one thing and do something else boss man as exampled by what you’ve done continuously.

keep grinding out that passive income, at the end of the day i’m just a dude bitchin’ on the internet. If it wasnt true, it wouldn’t of put you on the defense so bad.
"If it wasnt true, it wouldn’t of put you on the defense so bad"

What kind of mental gymnastics do u need to perform, to come up with such a 400 IQ level thought .

Wow.
U need to go to MIT to learn to build space rockets buddy. U re wasting ur IQ on the internet.
 

sslovoe

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again dev put late work to support decrease in dead month ...he sell fish in sea and they wait
give him more month to make prodect and let you be gus

making game in high quality heisenberg


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BulgariAMARA

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again dev put late work to support decrease in dead month ...he sell fish in sea and they wait
give him more month to make protect and let you be gus

making game in high quality heisenberg


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O noble knight, heir to the great Don Quixote, how could we understand the whole evil essence of Mr. Palmer without you? Thank you for opening our foolish eyes, O great one.
 

Jakers15@

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you're not studio, but you don't want people to help you.
I'm offering you content writing. writing will be on your style.

Guys, let's take it easy. It's not easy to make a game. Render images, create scenarios and environments and in the end hope that the entire process does not have errors, because, if it does, everything will have to be redone. Another point, every good game needs writing, a narrative. This second part is very difficult because it depends on the author's imagination and sometimes he may not be inspired and if he still decides to continue working and working, the game will lose quality. I know we all want one more big update, but remember, the developer is a human being, he needs to sleep, work and play. He often has to change his leisure time to work on the project. This is very tiring.
 

Mr_Palmer

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I can take criticism. You can call me slow as fuck and I’ll be okay with that. I agree I’m very meticulous… and put way more effort into the script and the buildup than is probably needed, but that’s the way my brain operates. I will, however, get defensive when people claim this is a milking operation, because it’s factually wrong. If you don’t want to believe me that’s on you for being stubborn and lazy. All you need to do is the math to realize after I pay taxes on 100% of the receipts and pay the artist, I’m not Scrooge McDuck here swimming in money. And people want to call patrons morons for feeding the beast, but the alternative is no money coming in… how is that going to make the process any better or faster? Still waiting for an answer on that.

As for the lack of sex/nudity stuff, I can take criticism for that. The story won’t always be like that, so it doesn’t bother me at all. I’ve said before, the way I’m crafting this is like a Hallmark movie that turns down a dark path. You have to establish the Hallmark element of it first in order to make the dark turn unique. Whether or not it ultimately falls flat I can’t say, but my intent is to make it an extremely enjoyable experience for those who have invested all the time. That’s not a milking strategy. That’s always been the plan. But guess what? We are at the point where shit starts to get real, so relax.
 

BulgariAMARA

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I can take criticism. You can call me slow as fuck and I’ll be okay with that. I agree I’m very meticulous… and put way more effort into the script and the buildup than is probably needed, but that’s the way my brain operates. I will, however, get defensive when people claim this is a milking operation, because it’s factually wrong. If you don’t want to believe me that’s on you for being stubborn and lazy. All you need to do is the math to realize after I pay taxes on 100% of the receipts and pay the artist, I’m not Scrooge McDuck here swimming in money. And people want to call patrons morons for feeding the beast, but the alternative is no money coming in… how is that going to make the process any better or faster? Still waiting for an answer on that.

As for the lack of sex/nudity stuff, I can take criticism for that. The story won’t always be like that, so it doesn’t bother me at all. I’ve said before, the way I’m crafting this is like a Hallmark movie that turns down a dark path. You have to establish the Hallmark element of it first in order to make the dark turn unique. Whether or not it ultimately falls flat I can’t say, but my intent is to make it an extremely enjoyable experience for those who have invested all the time. That’s not a milking strategy. That’s always been the plan. But guess what? We are at the point where shit starts to get real, so relax.
Mr_Palmer , buddy, I understand that you don't like reading some of the posts. But exactly what you shouldn't do is make excuses and explain to the haters, they don't care, they don't hear you and don't accept your arguments. Any other person who likes your game, even who doesn't like the development time, understands how you work and what you do. Therefore, I think you should not waste your strength and energy on these trifles, focus on your creativity. I wish you inspiration, it won't hurt you at this stage.
 

Adolfo

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Mr_Palmer , buddy, I understand that you don't like reading some of the posts. But exactly what you shouldn't do is make excuses and explain to the haters, they don't care, they don't hear you and don't accept your arguments. Any other person who likes your game, even who doesn't like the development time, understands how you work and what you do. Therefore, I think you should not waste your strength and energy on these trifles, focus on your creativity. I wish you inspiration, it won't hurt you at this stage.
Totally agree, it's a waste of time. I recommend to press IGNORE. It's magic. Haters and trolls gone for ever.
 

Hotcoupleeasy

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I can take criticism. You can call me slow as fuck and I’ll be okay with that. I agree I’m very meticulous… and put way more effort into the script and the buildup than is probably needed, but that’s the way my brain operates. I will, however, get defensive when people claim this is a milking operation, because it’s factually wrong. If you don’t want to believe me that’s on you for being stubborn and lazy. All you need to do is the math to realize after I pay taxes on 100% of the receipts and pay the artist, I’m not Scrooge McDuck here swimming in money. And people want to call patrons morons for feeding the beast, but the alternative is no money coming in… how is that going to make the process any better or faster? Still waiting for an answer on that.

As for the lack of sex/nudity stuff, I can take criticism for that. The story won’t always be like that, so it doesn’t bother me at all. I’ve said before, the way I’m crafting this is like a Hallmark movie that turns down a dark path. You have to establish the Hallmark element of it first in order to make the dark turn unique. Whether or not it ultimately falls flat I can’t say, but my intent is to make it an extremely enjoyable experience for those who have invested all the time. That’s not a milking strategy. That’s always been the plan. But guess what? We are at the point where shit starts to get real, so relax.
You are just doing great. This is the best game ever. Keep it like this erotic and realistic. Ignore please the haters. If you put stupid incest or lesbian they will be happy. Please keep it as it is . Continue the excellent work plz.
 

robrize2169

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yeah don't listen to the negativity from people Mr. Palmer. the game is great. do i wish you could get it out faster, sure. but with the number of paths to deal with and taking the game from both David and Anna's point of view, shit takes as long as it takes. and to be fair to you, the best games take a long time to develop, and real life issues always gotta take precedent. that being said, hurry the fuck up man!:LOL:
 

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Mr_Palmer I personally thank you for your work! I never imagined that such a slow-burning story would have such an impact on me. Good luck with your future work, I, we, continue to patiently await the fruits of your labour! And don't mind the whiners, if there's any real criticism, we'll write it anyway! ;)
 

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I respect you Mr.Palmer and your writing . But damn all this indecisive thoughts of Anna is basically put everything back to square one. I don't know what will push Anna to do anything drastic lewd if that's her mindset. All in all, this update seems like will be just part 2 only because it's still setting up pieces. Hoping you prove me wrong and atleast show Anna's tits. Withholding sex aspects is understandable that Anna needs reason to do anything sexual, but not letting us see her nude just because other characters in game haven't see her nude is basically blue balling. I hope this update will be better.
 
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He supports heaps of games financially. I think others are more toxic. I wouldn't put DFR in the toxic category. The AWAM is a terrible game that doesn't deliver only hours ago I put a truthful post on that thread and it's 100% true.
Ive been a Patreon to many games and currently am for couple now too. That doesn't give me the right to trash others and devs because I pay money. Theres no respect shown. People can get their point across by being rational and saying things without being rude. When you say the same things over and over for months or even years and attack others on top of that. Thats trolling. You can defend him all you want. Doesn't help the situation one bit though, or stop him and others from acting the way they do. It only encourages them to act that way and continue to be even worse.
 
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