VN Unity A Phone Affair [v0.9.0 Beta] [Allure Arts Studios]

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

That doesn't make sense. Did dev say you will get lead back to NTS or Loyal path if you stick to Trusting route?

I believe he did say something like that, yes, though I can't find it right now.

But even if not the case - cheating "trusting" subpath has nearly nothing on it. Skips all the practice dates, goes to filming, she has her gym night, nothing happens, that's it, the end. When a guy like myself who generally prefers to avoid cheating paths feels like it's lacking content - you can trust it's a significant gap.

But I don't see how the NTR path is ruined when it's more about corruption rather than who she cheats with. There is already cuck route to choose whom you want her to cheat with. Doing that in cheating is redundant and takes the focus away from the corruption.

IMO there's very little 'corruption' on the cheat path right now - ironically Roy as a secondary character has more corruption in their phone exchange where he goes over practice lines and Bella resists, saying something like "well I do have a boyfriend". I don't recall any resistance like that during the Carter gym or phone events - it was all pretty straightforward; Bella never second-guesses him.

 

[Return_To_Monke]

I believe he did say something like that, yes, though I can't find it right now.

But even if not the case - cheating "trusting" subpath has nearly nothing on it. Skips all the practice dates, goes to filming, she has her gym night, nothing happens, that's it, the end. When a guy like myself who generally prefers to avoid cheating paths feels like it's lacking content - you can trust it's a significant gap.
IMO there's very little 'corruption' on the cheat path right now - ironically Roy as a secondary character has more corruption in their phone exchange where he goes over practice lines and Bella resists, saying something like "well I do have a boyfriend". I don't recall any resistance like that during the Carter gym or phone events - it was all pretty straightforward; Bella never second-guesses him.

But those want to avoid cheating usually wouldn't play the ntr route if it makes sense. If I was in the mood for some vanilla, I wouldn't play this or any ntr game. I will just download a vanilla game with possible harem endings because I know for sure they will completely focus on the vanilla romance and no need to worry about cheating.

But if I want to tip toe then the trust choices comes in handy just to see if it might make a difference or change the ending down the line. Most people who wants to see cheating action would stick to the controlling path I bet. Honestly we have no idea how these choices are going to affect the end.

For corruption, does resistance have to be the only sign? Carter never did anything that made Bella feel like he was a pervert trying to get in her pants. All he did was "mentor" her and with the power dynamics established and her career on the line, someone with her personality would just put up with it. From their chats and her chat later with Roy, its evident that she was close to stopping Carter but didn't because of her career.

and in the latest Roy event, she did resist multiple times that she doesn't want to take erotic pics but Roy sweet talked her into it. So that does count as corruption in my book rather than plain old blackmail which most ntr employ right off the bat and jump straight into sex.

I would rather see more effort and focus put into the cheating stuff than any loyal or trusting option because I play ntr for the ntr.

 

[Filipis]

But those want to avoid cheating usually wouldn't play the ntr route if it makes sense. If I was in the mood for some vanilla, I wouldn't play this or any ntr game. I will just download a vanilla game with possible harem endings because I know for sure they will completely focus on the vanilla romance and no need to worry about cheating.

But if I want to tip toe then the trust choices comes in handy just to see if it might make a difference or change the ending down the line. Most people who wants to see cheating action would stick to the controlling path I bet. Honestly we have no idea how these choices are going to affect the end.

For corruption, does resistance have to be the only sign? Carter never did anything that made Bella feel like he was a pervert trying to get in her pants. All he did was "mentor" her and with the power dynamics established and her career on the line, someone with her personality would just put up with it. From their chats and her chat later with Roy, its evident that she was close to stopping Carter but didn't because of her career.

and in the latest Roy event, she did resist multiple times that she doesn't want to take erotic pics but Roy sweet talked her into it. So that does count as corruption in my book rather than plain old blackmail which most ntr employ right off the bat and jump straight into sex.

I would rather see more effort and focus put into the cheating stuff than any loyal or trusting option because I play ntr for the ntr.

Yup, if you keep picking "Trusting" options after getting on the "Cheat" path, the game is setup to lead you back to NTS/Loyal after a while - confirmed by the dev.

What an absolute L decision to make in an NTR game.

Regarding corruption: Carter is clearly taking advantage of the fact that the two of them will have to portray an "intimate" couple, which is why Bella doesn't resist almost at all during their private gym scene. Roy, however, manages to convince Bella that she needs to look out for her own career, and not let MC ruin her chance at stardom because of his insecurities and jealousies. That's why she keeps "resisting" his attempt to get her to show more skin, but she does think Roy is right, otherwise she would never consent to those pictures being taken. So far, Carter has made better progress on corrupting her (evident by the way Bella blushes and reacts when he ends the session), and Roy takes a backseat with his "gay best friend" cucky behaviour on the NTR path.

But I can't believe this ass-backwards decision to have 2 NTS paths, but only 1 NTR path - presumably one where Bella (from the way it was written) just cheats on MC with both Roy and Carter, a.k.a. the village slut ending...

If NTS dudes get to pick who Bella cucks them with, NTR subpaths should've been written in a way that "Trusting" MC leads to Bella falling to Carter's seduction, while "Controlling" MC pushes Bella into Roy's supportive arms. Simple as that.

 

[Return_To_Monke]

Yup, if you keep picking "Trusting" options after getting on the "Cheat" path, the game is setup to lead you back to NTS/Loyal after a while - confirmed by the dev.

What an absolute L decision to make in an NTR game.

Regarding corruption: Carter is clearly taking advantage of the fact that the two of them will have to portray an "intimate" couple, which is why Bella doesn't resist almost at all during their private gym scene. Roy, however, manages to convince Bella that she needs to look out for her own career, and not let MC ruin her chance at stardom because of his insecurities and jealousies. That's why she keeps "resisting" his attempt to get her to show more skin, but she does think Roy is right, otherwise she would never consent to those pictures being taken. So far, Carter has made better progress on corrupting her (evident by the way Bella blushes and reacts when he ends the session), and Roy takes a backseat with his "gay best friend" cucky behaviour on the NTR path.

But I can't believe this ass-backwards decision to have 2 NTS paths, but only 1 NTR path - presumably one where Bella (from the way it was written) just cheats on MC with both Roy and Carter, a.k.a. the village slut ending...

If NTS dudes get to pick who Bella cucks them with, NTR subpaths should've been written in a way that "Trusting" MC leads to Bella falling to Carter's seduction, while "Controlling" MC pushes Bella into Roy's supportive arms. Simple as that.

I saw the comments in patreon and I quote dev's words, "No, the Trusting path leads to the relationship maintaining the original love and trust between the two. The Controlling path is where things lead to the NTR territory. It wouldn't necessarily dictate whom she cheats with." - Nowhere here is it mentioned that Trusting path would lead back to NTS or Loyal.

Roy is definitely a alpha cuck who likes to enjoy the girl but also likes to share

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

So far, Carter has made better progress on corrupting her (evident by the way Bella blushes and reacts when he ends the session), and Roy takes a backseat with his "gay best friend" cucky behaviour on the NTR path.

Is it really "corruption" though if there's zero resistance? That just sounds like "person X suggests girl Y do Z, and girl Y wants to do Z so she agrees". Kinda the opposite of corruption.

 

[Filipis]

I saw the comments in patreon and I quote dev's words, "No, the Trusting path leads to the relationship maintaining the original love and trust between the two. The Controlling path is where things lead to the NTR territory. It wouldn't necessarily dictate whom she cheats with." - Nowhere here is it mentioned that Trusting path would lead back to NTS or Loyal.

Roy is definitely a alpha cuck who likes to enjoy the girl but also likes to share

What else is it supposed to mean? You can't have the original love and trust between the couple if Bella is actively being unfaithful to the MC. Then specifically mentioning NTR territory in regards to the "Controlling" option...

Do you need a flashing neon sign to translate that to English?

 

[Filipis]

Is it really "corruption" though if there's zero resistance? That just sounds like "person X suggests girl Y do Z, and girl Y wants to do Z so she agrees". Kinda the opposite of corruption.

Physical and mental resistance are not the same thing. Bella's reactions indicate she was not expecting those moves from Carter, but went along as an aspiring actress. In the context of the situation, there was no need for Bella to resist Carter, as he "clearly" wasn't making a move on her.

 

[ScatyC]

Allure Arts Studios
Thank you so much for responding to me!
I play on a PC (Windows 10). As I wrote earlier in version 0.7 I can't save or add new saves, I can only load old saves. I checked, everything is working in version 0.6 and everything is fine with the saves. Many players have this problem.

 

[Allure Arts Studios]

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Thank you so much for responding to me! I play on a PC (Windows 10). As I wrote earlier in version 0.7 I can't save or add new saves, I can only load old saves. I checked, everything is working in version 0.6 and everything is fine with the saves. Many players have this problem.

Okay that's weird. I tested it again but couldn't recreate it and majority seems to have no issues in creating new saves. But still, can you send me the screenshot of how it looks in the save app? Is the add save button greyed out or something? Also are you facing the same issue if you restart the game with no saves loaded?

 

[ScatyC]

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If you want, I can record it from the screen. If so, where should I send it?

 

[Allure Arts Studios]

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If you want, I can record it from the screen. If so, where should I send it?

Please DM it to me.

 

[ScatyC]

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[Allure Arts Studios]

The last few comments here regarding the cheating is interesting though I would like to debunk some assumptions and make things more clear for those who want to know the point behind each route (Also for those who have yet to understand the different routes)

There are 3 major routes in the game,

1) The Cuck Route focuses on the sharing aspect of course. So here as you already know the two major sub-paths are Alpha and Beta. You either take control and choose who gets to share your girl or you just helplessly watch others having a bite of your girl. But these two subpaths will eventually again branch out before leading to multiple endings. Let's keep it that for later now. But note that the build-up in this path is less and things get hot quick because her boyfriend is being very supportive and Bella personally wants to become a celebrity and push her limits. There is little to no reason or guilt that can possibly hold her back here. Everything she has to do or "learn" is for the sake of her career.

2) The Cheating Route - In other words the Netorare route. At first it takes a back seat in the lewd aspect but focuses on the corruption buildup. Which means do not expect sex or anything too lewd to happen in the initial stage of the route. But as the corruption builds up (depending on your choices) things can get dangerous and hot.

The two main sub-paths of this route are Trusting and Controlling. As evident by the name, each Trusting choice helps you maintain the love and trust you originally had with your girl. So just think it reinforces her love for you, increasing trust points.
But if you are controlling, you are pushing her away from you by making her feel suffocated and not understanding her as evident by the choices.
Now those who wants to see only ntr will keep choosing the controlling choices. But those who want to balance or lessen the corruption, they could choose the Trusting choices here and there.
So based on these points, it could lead to multiple endings but it never will connect or lead to Cuck or Loyal routes. They are a separate major route of their own with their own endings and sub-routes.

You also don't get to choose who she cheats with in this major route because Netorare is supposed to be bleak and dark where the worst CAN happen. Everyone is out to corrupt and get your girl.

3) The Loyal Route is where the MC's loyalty is tested with the introduction of a new fmc. This route doesn't really need much explanation I believe.

I hope this clears up any confusion

 

[derek92500]

was a fix or an update ?

 

[Filipis]

2) The Cheating Route - In other words the Netorare route. At first it takes a back seat in the lewd aspect but focuses on the corruption buildup. Which means do not expect sex or anything too lewd to happen in the initial stage of the route. But as the corruption builds up (depending on your choices) things can get dangerous and hot.

The two main sub-paths of this route are Trusting and Controlling. As evident by the name, each Trusting choice helps you maintain the love and trust you originally had with your girl. So just think it reinforces her love for you, increasing trust points.
But if you are controlling, you are pushing her away from you by making her feel suffocated and not understanding her as evident by the choices.
Now those who wants to see only ntr will keep choosing the controlling choices. But those who want to balance or lessen the corruption, they could choose the Trusting choices here and there.
So based on these points, it could lead to multiple endings but it never will connect or lead to Cuck or Loyal routes. They are a separate major route of their own with their own endings and sub-routes.

You also don't get to choose who she cheats with in this major route because Netorare is supposed to be bleak and dark where the worst CAN happen. Everyone is out to corrupt and get your girl.

I hope this clears up any confusion

I am still very much confused...

What's the point of the "Trusting" subpath of the Cheating route? All it does is give less scenes to the player (Bella's POV not withstanding), but now you say that she keeps cheating on you regardless of your "trust" in her? Please, elaborate.

Also, having Bella cheat on you with all of the guys on the "Controlling" subpath is exactly what "NTR" games keep getting wrong about NTR - the experience is supposed to be intimate, not cause full-blown nymphomania in your girl. People have affairs with one person only, they rarely cheat on their partners with multiple persons at the same time.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Physical and mental resistance are not the same thing. Bella's reactions indicate she was not expecting those moves from Carter, but went along as an aspiring actress. In the context of the situation, there was no need for Bella to resist Carter, as he "clearly" wasn't making a move on her.

Suit yourself, I think it would have been hotter if she had her defenses up then overtime he broke through - right now it plays more Kayla&Agit to me.

 

[Filipis]

Suit yourself, I think it would have been hotter if she had her defenses up then overtime he broke through - right now it plays more Kayla&Agit to me.

To each his own.

But Kayla & Ajit was full-blown sex with no resistance, this is just "intimacy" training, with some erotic undertones, sure - but Bella had no reason to doubt his motives.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

To each his own.

But Kayla & Ajit was full-blown sex with no resistance, this is just "intimacy" training, with some erotic undertones, sure - but Bella had no reason to doubt his motives.

Perception of that situation will depend largely on one's fetish preferences...I wonder, would the same scene occuring with the old director feel natural to you or others?

 

[Allure Arts Studios]

I am still very much confused...

What's the point of the "Trusting" subpath of the Cheating route? All it does is give less scenes to the player (Bella's POV not withstanding), but now you say that she keeps cheating on you regardless of your "trust" in her? Please, elaborate.

Also, having Bella cheat on you with all of the guys on the "Controlling" subpath is exactly what "NTR" games keep getting wrong about NTR - the experience is supposed to be intimate, not cause full-blown nymphomania in your girl. People have affairs with one person only, they rarely cheat on their partners with multiple persons at the same time.

What makes you say that she will keep cheating regardless of trust? Since you played everything so far, you must have seen that if you keep choosing Trust choices then no corruption happens. So it's kinda obvious that this will lead to the most vanilla ending in the Cheating Route and probably the shortest. The point of the Trusting choices is like I said to lessen or balance the corruption for those who want it and unlock endings that are not just black or white.

Again for those interested in scenes while choosing to play Cheating route should stick to Controlling choices more often. Cheating route focuses on the cheating and not vanilla romance. So naturally Trust choices wouldn't give that much scenes and more focus can be given on the corruption aspect. The Loyal route exists for those looking to see some vanilla action.

About Bella possibly cheating on all of them depends on choices again. So if you can guess she might get into a compromising situation with Roy or Carter or anyone else, just pick the Trust choice and you can avoid that situation and the person involved at the cost of losing corruption.

Also NTR can be done in multiple ways and doesn't have to be about a girl passionately falling in love with a single dude. The context or the plot here matters. Bella is an actress and naturally she would be surrounded by multiple famous or capable men. For a plot like this, it would make sense for the worst to happen. Even in the real word, many actors or actresses have affairs with multiple people at the same time as we know. So this shouldn't be that unbelievable.

 

[Filipis]

What makes you say that she will keep cheating regardless of trust? Since you played everything so far, you must have seen that if you keep choosing Trust choices then no corruption happens. So it's kinda obvious that this will lead to the most vanilla ending in the Cheating Route and probably the shortest. The point of the Trusting choices is like I said to lessen or balance the corruption for those who want it and unlock endings that are not just black or white.

Again for those interested in scenes while choosing to play Cheating route should stick to Controlling choices more often. Cheating route focuses on the cheating and not vanilla romance. So naturally Trust choices wouldn't give that much scenes and more focus can be given on the corruption aspect. The Loyal route exists for those looking to see some vanilla action.

About Bella possibly cheating on all of them depends on choices again. So if you can guess she might get into a compromising situation with Roy or Carter or anyone else, just pick the Trust choice and you can avoid that situation and the person involved at the cost of losing corruption.

Also NTR can be done in multiple ways and doesn't have to be about a girl passionately falling in love with a single dude. The context or the plot here matters. Bella is an actress and naturally she would be surrounded by multiple famous or capable men. For a plot like this, it would make sense for the worst to happen. Even in the real word, many actors or actresses have affairs with multiple people at the same time as we know. So this shouldn't be that unbelievable.

So, you're saying that the "Trusting" options will lead to a cucked MC not being aware or even suspicious of Bella cheating on him? Or are you saying there won't be any cheating happening at all?

And NTR is primarily a fetish focused on the person being cheated on - how they feel, what they experience, the angst, the turmoil. Yes, multiple cheating partners can amplify that, but turning the woman into the village plaything isn't compelling at all.