VN Ren'Py A Promise Best Left Unkept - Aya Edition [v0.7.0] [Hangover Cat]

[David__14]

"Grrr harry i saw you be a nice guy when we where young and that made me super mad so now I'm gonna fuck your girlfriend harry. And then I'm gonna do it again harry because harry I hate you harry" iirc theres a point in one of the routes where he goes "im only fucking laura to get to harry" like bros got a big harry hateboner. this game is like a soap opera so it gets hard to take seriously

 

[bloodyasura]

People who play ntr games and expect good endings are asking for it anyways

I'm not really sure, because I don't play all these games imagining myself in the place of MC, I imagine myself as a bystander or even fate itself, breaking or healing the lives of others.
But for ordinary players who associate themselves with MC, perhaps if they saw a good ending, after that the ending of the NTR would look more emotional, would give them a stronger feeling of the whole situation??

 

[desmosome]

Yes, I should've specified my grievance is especially strong because this game has some claims on being something more than your average plotless NTR game, but it fails to expand onto it, at least for me.

You mean the dev claimed this? Where?

At some point the character development curve ceases to be a curve and discontinuitly jumps to a whole another personality. Like wtf. Lireally one scene she says "you have to believe me", the next one she's jumping on another man's cock and submits into being his cumdump.

It's just something about this game that doesn't make characters believable. Corruption is happening behind the scenes, in one scene the girl is adamant of being with Harry, the next cadre (omitting the whole Harry's perspective) she's jumping on Luca's cock, submitting to him, or to his cock and sexual skills to be exact. But then suddenly the girl is all cold and/or spiteful towards Harry. Like really, is this a character development? No crying, no regrets, instant switch?

Either your reading comprehension is at a low level, or you skipped most of the text. It seems like you missed the entire point of Laura's arc.

She was broken because of her mom's betrayal of her father when she was a child. She buries the trauma instead of dealing with it and puts on the mask of being this perfect and competent woman. And everyone buys it. They admire her, especially Harry. And she even fools herself at some point, before Luca comes into the picture. Luca gradually unmasks her true self as this vile person who gets off on immorality and betrayal, not to mention her masochist body falls quite a bit earlier. She starts to despise these sheep that view her with admiration because they are basically projecting their own expectations and idea of perfection onto her. She is tired of it. And here is the most important thing for her. As selfish as it is, she wants Harry to see her, to truly see her for what she is and understand her without having to spell it out. She tests him. This is the major decision point.

In every route, she's been planning on trapping Luca like in the Clumsy Hero ending. This is what she means when she says "you have to believe me" in the break room. But how Harry responds during this event will let Laura know if he truly understood her or if he lied about it and is still putting her on this pedestal like some pure maiden to be saved. There is nothing sudden or random about it. Her body has already fallen long ago, and her plan is to make Luca think she has completely fallen. So she will jump on his cock and submit to him. She does enjoy sex with him fully by this point, physically and psychologically, but that suits her plans to kill him just fine. Whether she can keep holding onto her resolve depends on if Harry understood her. If he doesn't, she eventually falls completely and abandons the plan because she will come to despise Harry like the rest of the sheep. In the Clumsy Hero ending, she goes through with the plan, but at what cost? In the Good Ending, she was working on it, but Harry mans up and saves her before she executes her plan.

Criticize the characters for being cunts if you'd like, but don't attribute your own lack of reading comprehension as the fault of the writing.

 

[Komdot]

Ah yes, that is exactly why there's so little comments under his games. No essays on difference in morals and the human nature speaks volumes too.
Writing is bad so people just don't feel anything.
And do not care.
Mhm.

As if that were a parameter for anything, 80% of the trends on this site are rubbish, especially if the game is western.

could you give some examples of the bad writing and why its bad?

I don't have time and patience for this, but I want to say about how the characters are "that is it", everything is shallow and meaningless just to have some sex CG, which are really good, However, it manages to be even more superficial than the NTrMAN games, I hate shallow games that try to take themselves seriously, it's like those crap RPGs with horrible mtl that appear out of nowhere in Japan.

 

[Komdot]

You mean the dev claimed this? Where?



Either your reading comprehension is at a low level, or you skipped most of the text. It seems like you missed the entire point of Laura's arc.

She was broken because of her mom's betrayal of her father when she was a child. She buries the trauma instead of dealing with it and puts on the mask of being this perfect and competent woman. And everyone buys it. They admire her, especially Harry. And she even fools herself at some point, before Luca comes into the picture. Luca gradually unmasks her true self as this vile person who gets off on immorality and betrayal, not to mention her masochist body falls quite a bit earlier. She starts to despise these sheep that view her with admiration because they are basically projecting their own expectations and idea of perfection onto her. She is tired of it. And here is the most important thing for her. As selfish as it is, she wants Harry to see her, to truly see her for what she is and understand her without having to spell it out. She tests him. This is the major decision point.

In every route, she's been planning on trapping Luca like in the Clumsy Hero ending. This is what she means when she says "you have to believe me" in the break room. But how Harry responds during this event will let Laura know if he truly understood her or if he lied about it and is still putting her on this pedestal like some pure maiden to be saved. There is nothing sudden or random about it. Her body has already fallen long ago, and her plan is to make Luca think she has completely fallen. So she will jump on his cock and submit to him. She does enjoy sex with him fully by this point, physically and psychologically, but that suits her plans to kill him just fine. Whether she can keep holding onto her resolve depends on if Harry understood her. If he doesn't, she eventually falls completely and abandons the plan because she will come to despise Harry like the rest of the sheep. In the Clumsy Hero ending, she goes through with the plan, but at what cost? In the Good Ending, she was working on it, but Harry mans up and saves her before she executes her plan.

Criticize the characters for being cunts if you'd like, but don't attribute your own lack of reading comprehension as the fault of the writing.

Really, can anyone really take this seriously? Like, like something interesting and serious, and not just like cheap porn? There are games here like Sanctuary of Promise and Contract, which really makes use of NTR and porn, but also has a serious and emotional story that makes sense and you feel in the shoes of the characters and understand their actions if you have an open mind. But that's not the case here, it borders on ridiculous.

 

[Son1cc]

Really, can anyone really take this seriously? Like, like something interesting and serious, and not just like cheap porn? There are games here like Sanctuary of Promise and Contract, which really makes use of NTR and porn, but also has a serious and emotional story that makes sense and you feel in the shoes of the characters and understand their actions if you have an open mind. But that's not the case here, it borders on ridiculous.

If you want to prove something, you need to elaborate what's wrong with the story more specific. Dude above described literally the entire motivation of the characters and I agree with him. It's basically an accurate description of what's going on if you read the story carefully.
Even the game title itself refers to the core problem of the relationship between Harry and Laura. Everyone thinks Laura is perfect, too much weight falls on her shoulders. If Harry had seen what was important and what Laura really needed, he wouldn't have made that idiotic promise to be worthy of her. Guy seriously kept his distance from her for a year and if it wasn't for the chance of a promotion it would've lasted even longer. And the whole time he was putting himself down in comparison to her which isn't good for a relationship either. She would simply lose interest in him as a man even without blonde guy.

Like, like something interesting and serious, and not just like cheap porn?

Although i wouldn't apply to this game as a cheap porn in terms of plot. But asking for serious drama and story for a porn game is very weird because first of all it's a PORN game. There are games, movies, anime, books, and other media where the focus is on story. Perhaps you need to pay attention to different genres that are not porn?

 

[cmllcmll]

How dare he use AI

 

[Zulfiqar]

People pointlessly crying about not getting good ending again??? Love it kudos to the dev

It's the gift that keeps on giving, I checked out of laura route early and see we're finally getting the best girl route and find the posts are the exact same essays from 4000 posts ago it's like that thread was containment for the weirdest ntr posters and they immediately spilled over to here

 

[Leo D. Marstone]

And here is the most important thing for her. As selfish as it is, she wants Harry to see her, to truly see her for what she is and understand her without having to spell it out. She tests him. This is the major decision point.
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Haha.

"Without having to spell it out". "She tests him" Such a woman thing to do.
Another issue that could have been solved when talking to each other......but where is the fun in that right?

Anyway the back and forth here is entertaining and I will surely test the game out once I am in a mood for a longer game since it seems to be on the longer side.

 

[Syntax_]

It's the gift that keeps on giving, I checked out of laura route early and see we're finally getting the best girl route and find the posts are the exact same essays from 4000 posts ago it's like that thread was containment for the weirdest ntr posters and they immediately spilled over to here

jesus. Every page has multiple sentences about NTR morality that even the dev was sarcastically commenting about it on the previous thread. Porn plot taken seriously.

 

[Valmond82]

The one i talked about is "Silent War" give it a go.

I read that one and you're right its a really good one. A good revenge ntr manhwa. I remember reading a hentai manga about a guy who inherited an hotel and he brought a bunch of his childhood women friends to help him. They all eventually have sex with the local thug dude and they began to treat the mc like crap. At the very last panel the mc broke down and burned down the hotel shouting I hate this f#cking place lmao. He won't have to see those "friends" anymore.

 

[Zulfiqar]

Holy shit that one review HC really has the most dedicated trolls

 

[desmosome]

I read that one and you're right its a really good one. A good revenge ntr manhwa. I remember reading a hentai manga about a guy who inherited an hotel and he brought a bunch of his childhood women friends to help him. They all eventually have sex with the local thug dude and they began to treat the mc like crap. At the very last panel the mc broke down and burned down the hotel shouting I hate this f#cking place lmao. He won't have to see those "friends" anymore.

I remember that one lol. That shit manged to be a hilarous parody of the genre but still somehow be fappable.

 

[polpolp]

The one i talked about is "Silent War" give it a go.

Silent War is a mastepiece of revenge NTR but unfortunately i dont know game with such plot, Hangover Cat for exemple doesnt want a strong MC and even in the "good ending" its not a real win for the MC.

HC have talent but i hope for a something new in the NTR genre, like revenge NTR maybe ^^

 

[jikop]

Holy shit that one review HC really has the most dedicated trolls

He expected a game and got a movie . It's a VN, it would be less dumb to buy GTA 6 and expect to read a book. No troll, just plain stupid. People like that make me wish there was some kind of system to downvote into silence those ratings and reviews.

... A good revenge ntr manhwa. I remember reading a hentai manga about a guy who inherited an hotel and he brought a bunch of his childhood women friends to help him...

I remember that one lol. That shit manged to be a hilarous parody of the genre but still somehow be fappable.

Name please? I read Silent War many years ago as well, was still pretty early, is it worth picking up again?

 

[desmosome]

He expected a game and got a movie . It's a VN, it would be less dumb to buy GTA 6 and expect to read a book. No troll, just plain stupid. People like that make me wish there was some kind of system to downvote into silence those ratings and reviews.

He left the same review in both games, so yea. A troll. Or a deeply deranged masochist cuck in denial. Look at their post history. They are playing every single NTR and cheating slut games, and then complaining about the cheating sluts.

 

[desmosome]

Name please? I read Silent War many years ago as well, was still pretty early, is it worth picking up again?

Well, Silent War is a good read to the end, so why not?

As for the other manga about the hotel, I can't remember the title or the author lol.

Edit: Oh I found it haha.

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[CorrHen]

About wanting a good end, I wanted to say my piece.

I absolutely love NTR and corruption.

But also, I want a good end. I love playing good ends in NTR and corruption games. I even play them first usually. In some games you have to get a good end to even unlock the bad ending and I love it. You people think too small. Think big picture ~

I love the good ends because you get to compare the delicious gap between the good and evil ends. When you go through the other routes and endings you get to look back at the good end and how you saw the future that is stolen away and ruined. It's averted, gone and replaced by the darkest vilest shit. You can remember that joyous happy moment and know it's just completely avoided.

Happy marriage ending in an NTR? Just lovely. You get to think about that while the wife is deliriously broken down beyond repair. You get to see what the bull has now compared to what the cuck would have otherwise. You get to look back at how fucking hot that is.

 

[vaxMerstappen]

I don't understand why this is not included in the main game or should I say integrated to the story line, I mean the main game already has multiple ending story why not make it multiple ending for multiple character as well ?

 

[lkjhgfdfghjkl]

I love the good ends because you get to compare the delicious gap between the good and evil ends. When you go through the other routes and endings you get to look back at the good end and how you saw the future that is stolen away and ruined. It's averted, gone and replaced by the darkest vilest shit. You can remember that joyous happy moment and know it's just completely avoided.

You can just contrast a dark ending with a happy beginning that is filled with hope though. Having to cross reference alternate realities is pretty convoluted.

Aside from knowing their fate was avoidable, this gap is best highlighted on the same path with the same characters rather than between versions of themselves that are only indirectly connected imo