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apollo_126

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About the Version 0.8 , the story I can not understand at the ending . Help Aya kill Her Father , why need to flip all cards with Harry ? And why bring Laura back at the end for some thing ?
When Aya come to Casino , I thought the team will bring Laura back by see her working in underworld or something . But the end after that I feel the Dev team made time story rush, non logic .
The dev team can do it better .
 

Chinel

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What does Aya/Misumi meant when she said "you didn't even try" .. does she mean he could have got out if he wanted specially when she is with him. Is that why she said "Baka senpai" at the end. Cause saving Laura isn't gonna do good to Harry as it's shown in original she isn't a strong woman as she portrays, she is just a nympho ready to get out.

And what do you guys thinks Luca's suffering/curse is. By making it his goal to make Harry suffer did he made his own hell loop? I think every major character in this VN has a mask on. What's his mask and what's behind the mask?
Laura = mask -> strong, responsible; no mask -> weak, nympho
Aya= mask -> caring, pure; no mask -> sadist, broken mind
Harry = mask -> Strong Morale; no mask -> weak willed/ pushover
Luca = ?
Luca = Mask -> Strong, superior; no mask -> Dependant/No purpose without Harry.
 

randomklark

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Hey there. I don't really interact much, but this story got to me (the original, I mean) and I wanted to share my thoughts a bit. I'll preface this by saying I'm not exactly a huge NTR fan, but I can appreciate and respect the genre. Heck, most of the spicy scenes in NTR works are typically really hot compared to other media. I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on the matter.

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All in all, great game with a lot of thought put into it. I'd love to hear anyone else's thoughts on my thoughts just to have a conversation or help me get into the mind of a true NTR enjoyer.
 
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LoyalSilence

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Hey there. I don't really interact much, but this story got to me (the original, I mean) and I wanted to share my thoughts a bit. I'll preface this by saying I'm not exactly a huge NTR fan, but I can appreciate and respect the genre. Heck, most of the spicy scenes in NTR works are typically really hot compared to other media. I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on the matter.

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All in all, great game with a lot of thought put into it. I'd love to hear anyone else's thoughts on my thoughts just to have a conversation or help me get into the mind of a true NTR enjoyer.
You’re correct when it comes to a lot of your assumptions for the NTR genre. Those who are fans like me revel in the negative emotions and enjoy the pain even if that’s a little weird to say. You know sad movies that are meant to make you cry? It’s similar to that but more extreme.

Due to that, happy endings are typically pushed to the side and won’t feel as developed as the actual NTR endings since it isn’t the point of the narrative. Happy endings in NTR are like bad endings in Disney movies; it’s just not really the point.
 

abirvg

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Still, I am one of those whiners that wishes there could have been just a single ending where Harry manages to completely shut down Luca's plans and win with Laura and Aya's "modesty" in tact.
No, you are not the only one.
But you need to differentiate 'happy ending' - ending - and 'shutting down the whole plot'. 80-90% of all your play time and sex scenes.

You can't keep girls' "modesty" intact when the point of the sex game is, in fact, sex scenes. The only thing you can do is to keep their 'likability' intact - i.o.w. not turning them into the villains.
Now THAT is taste related.
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randomklark

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You’re correct when it comes to a lot of your assumptions for the NTR genre. Those who are fans like me revel in the negative emotions and enjoy the pain even if that’s a little weird to say. You know sad movies that are meant to make you cry? It’s similar to that but more extreme.

Due to that, happy endings are typically pushed to the side and won’t feel as developed as the actual NTR endings since it isn’t the point of the narrative. Happy endings in NTR are like bad endings in Disney movies; it’s just not really the point.
Thank you for your reply! You made a great comparison! As I mentioned earlier, I may not be a big fan of NTR, but I know exactly where you're coming from! After reading an NTR work, I usually feel bad for the protagonist and disdain for the antagonist (and even disgust towards the heroine in most cases), but at the same time, I tend to get this rush of motivation to be better (as in, do something productive or workout or whatever) so that the elements in the story don't end up happening to me (it sounds ridiculous, I know, but that's just how my weird brain works, I guess). That's why I can appreciate most literary works/genres, even NTR. Lastly, you're absolutely right. A "happy" ending in an NTR work isn't exactly in high demand. The target audience wants what it wants and the creator wants it, too (usually, at least. Especially the case with this author if I understood the previous posts correctly). It just wouldn't make sense to incorporate a "traditional happy" ending when there just isn't a demand for one. I may desire to see just one "happy" ending where everything works out, but as you mentioned already, the majority would be turned off by it.

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randomklark

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No, you are not the only one.
But you need to differentiate 'happy ending' - ending - and 'shutting down the whole plot'. 80-90% of all your play time and sex scenes.

You can't keep girls' "modesty" intact when the point of the sex game is, in fact, sex scenes. The only thing you can do is to keep their 'likability' intact - i.o.w. not turning them into the villains.
Now THAT is taste related.
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Thanks for replying! I made a terrible mistake by using the word "modesty." It completely failed to properly convey my thoughts. By "modesty," I meant their loyalty to the protagonist (in the sense that they are able to prevent the antagonist's advances thanks directly to player choice/influence). I wanted the intractability where only by choosing the "right" options will the player/reader be "rewarded" with that vanilla "happy" ending and if you don't, NTR goodness awaits! Get a "happy" ending, or get exactly what you came for, the choice will be up to the player (in that sense, if you don't like vanilla, you can completely ignore it as a possibility while the vanilla enjoyers have something to desperately grasp at). And yeah, sex is definitely a requirement in this type of game, no way will I advocate for EVER getting rid of that (it would be boring otherwise, am I right?). I just meant that Laura or Aya would exclusively have scenes with Harry in the imaginary vanilla ending that I mentioned (which I can recognize would absolutely defeat the purpose of NTR and ruin most players' experience). Again, I chose a terrible word to convey that sentiment so I apologize.
I realize that asking for this is completely unreasonable. The point of NTR is for one party (or multiple, there are some works that manage to surprise me) to cheat on the other, which is why I refuse to demand or advocate for such a thing to be implemented. The audience is here for NTR, not a vanilla ending. There's no point catering to the few who want a "happy" ending when the majority (the author for this work included) wants "powerful" NTR endings. Still, a vanilla brain can dream, can't he? lol

I totally agree that the NTR genre has so much available to it when it comes to story telling (hell, the author of this game did a damn good job at it). The ability to shape the heroines (into corrupted individuals, liars/deceptive, still in love with the protagonist while still accepting the antagonist's advances, etc.), the protagonist (classic cuck, broken/traumatized, goes insane, moves on, etc.), and even the antagonist (I can't think of any examples right not. It's late when I'm writing this, lol) has so much potential. The way the characters react to their situations or how they end up by the end of the story or how the story plays out in the end has so much literary potential. Hell, I find the corruption of beautiful heroines to be hot in a weird, guilty way (my personal taste, which I know is weird and potentially hypocritical, but to be fair, I'll always prefer the vanilla choices over the NTR choices). I could go on and on about having the ability to change the heroines' perspectives or desires through player choices/actions, but that's neither here nor there (and it goes outside of the scope of the discussion, lol). Overall, NTR is so much more than what the average person thinks it is and I can appreciate and respect that. Thanks again for your point of view!
 

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Due to that, happy endings are typically pushed to the side and won’t feel as developed as the actual NTR endings since it isn’t the point of the narrative. Happy endings in NTR are like bad endings in Disney movies; it’s just not really the point.

I want to kiss you and hug you.

Nobody put this in better words. Happy Endings are BAD endings. And Bad Endings are Happy endings.
 
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