VN Ren'Py A Promise Best Left Unkept - Aya Edition [v0.8.3] [Hangover Cat]

[Terix3]

Brother, do you know the amount of cucks that jerked off and soiled their beds so hard just by "reading" about Harry's misery let alone the threesome? This is a game that is too soft while killing off Luca but will go out of its way to make Harry suffer his way to death. Why? Because they like self inserting as Harry. People who are into NTR are also masochists. They like the idea of suffering. Its pointless to even hope something like that over here because budget for animation would rather be used on humiliation and destruction rather than a good ending which has no audience(that was actually taught to me by someone and it made sense). Why would dev waste money on something like that? Its like asking for John Wick 5 feat Mr Bean. The whole idea is about suffering and "hope" and "NTR" dont go together.

People enjoy NTR in various ways, selfinserts are just one group. I do agree that MC happiness is beyond the scope, generally it is like you say why waste resources on good ending over more NTR? But good ending has a purpose of showing the high point before the fall or being palette cleanser. They don't need much art in that case.

Nah not quite, in the patreon poll of "Should Aya edition feature at least one good ending?", the votes were split 60/40. There is at least 40% of his patrons that want an ending that is not all despair and misery for the protag, maybe because even if you take the "least bad" choices, Harry does get thrown into misery by the end, which feels unrewarding and kinda pointless.

HC writing is dark and really good at entrapping characters. While we enjoy the dark shit, we still kinda want to believe that good got chance to win. But it is not to be understood that people want strongly or prefer good ending. In poll about which endings people liked for the base game the good endings didn't score well.

 

[abirvg]

Since the updates posted now I think its safe for me to talk about the udpate

Spoiler: 8.3 Ending Spoilers obviously

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The most hilarious part of the whole update - for me - was when Harry couldn't get it up for Aya anymore. At that point I was like: "Dude! Literally me!!"
Complete immersion.

Brother, do you know the amount of cucks that jerked off and soiled their beds so hard just by "reading" about Harry's misery let alone the threesome? This is a game that is too soft while killing off Luca but will go out of its way to make Harry suffer his way to death. Why? Because they like self inserting as Harry. People who are into NTR are also masochists. They like the idea of suffering. Its pointless to even hope something like that over here because budget for animation would rather be used on humiliation and destruction rather than a good ending which has no audience(that was actually taught to me by someone and it made sense). Why would dev waste money on something like that? Its like asking for John Wick 5 feat Mr Bean. The whole idea is about suffering and "hope" and "NTR" dont go together.

Ok, let's not

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1) People who watch The Thing do not, in fact, want to be eaten by a space monster. Or freeze to death. And people, who watch Dexter are - probably - not serial killers.

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2) If the good ending is crap - then absolutely.
But I don't think a lot of people would complain about the good ending with Shakespeare level of writing and drama.

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3) "Hope" and "Suffering" works just as well together, as "Bravery" and "Fear".

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[Chinel]

The way Aya victimizes herself? One should enslave Luca and have them work for them in exchange of sex.
At a certain point, the best victory is to force the bull down. And no, you don't need them giving up.
His whims MUST not matter really, only what you need.

Kinda like...the Draka do in all the books...huh.
Horrible fucks the Draka are.

 

[BL45T]

The most hilarious part of the whole update - for me - was when Harry couldn't get it up for Aya anymore. At that point I was like: "Dude! Literally me!!"
Complete immersion.

Ok, let's not

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1) People who watch The Thing do not, in fact, want to be eaten by a space monster. Or freeze to death. And people, who watch Dexter are - probably - not serial killers.

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2) If the good ending is crap - then absolutely.
But I don't think a lot of people would complain about the good ending with Shakespeare level of writing and drama.

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3) "Hope" and "Suffering" works just as well together, as "Bravery" and "Fear".

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Spoiler: Addressing your first point

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Spoiler: Adressing second and third point

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[Chinel]

I think people need to understand that sympathizing with Harry is different from Self Inserting in.

 

[Nyemor]

Since the updates posted now I think its safe for me to talk about the udpate

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To be honest, I can't feel bad for Harry anymore

 

[Lara Snow]

I think I ready to start this one.

So it just starts the same and splits or it's a sequel? I don't even remember how to play this.

 

[xcalibar4]

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As expected a brutal ending; cause in the OG all other Happy!! Harry endings are achieved when Aya intervened. I think the Dev don't like when cuck wins as in the OG the only ending (main good ending) where Harry takes action becomes worst when the extra episode is released. But I think Aya endings in the OG was fun and appreciated cause they weren't your typical NTR endings and it's also why this version is less hyped than original cause everyone knew what will happen in the end (Though in NTR games everyone knows what the endings will be).

But what I want to know is the after story. I mean Luca was actively trying to ruin Harry's life for more than a year now and if Harry is dead now what's his purpose now, won't he feel hollow?
And the NTR porn logic of wife/gf totally forgetting about the cuck is so lame. I mean in the TTP's most developed route (Zack Sophie Love route) Sophie totally forgets about Felix (Zack never did, he keeps trying to torment the guy for unknown reason), but over the two years she learns to love the thrill of cheating, almost getting caught and humiliating her husband and the big cock (later the person attached to it). She was addicted to them (each one gave her the next high) that's why she couldn't leave Zack but in the end she suddenly becomes a good chaste wife, just someone who traded up. The same happens here, in almost all ending the duo (trio in this version) tried to restore/ruin MC's life but when the endings happen the FMC's suddenly forgets all about MC and all the NTR kink they gathered. I get it it's to show more humiliation for the MC but character wise it doesn't make sense atleast to me.

 

[Chinel]

As expected a brutal ending; cause in the OG all other Happy!! Harry endings are achieved when Aya intervened. I think the Dev don't like when cuck wins as in the OG the only ending (main good ending) where Harry takes action becomes worst when the extra episode is released. But I think Aya endings in the OG was fun and appreciated cause they weren't your typical NTR endings and it's also why this version is less hyped than original cause everyone knew what will happen in the end (Though in NTR games everyone knows what the endings will be).

But what I want to know is the after story. I mean Luca was actively trying to ruin Harry's life for more than a year now and if Harry is dead now what's his purpose now, won't he feel hollow?

Luca tries to ressurect him.
Harry simply says to him 'fuck off', then Luca kills himself.
Result is that when Harry sees him again, he is a 'she'.
Harry gives up. Becomes Gendo Ikari, starts Human Instrumentality Project.

 

[Terix3]

Some thoughts after finishing all pov :
Brainwashing 10/10,... I think, not that I’ve experience in that genre. As netorare tho it wasn’t it, first it’s too rapey for me, blackmail is rape with extra steps, I tolerate it because there aren’t many ways how ntr can start but thats it. Second issue is that Aya is seriously fucked in the head, she has no morality and has “didn’t see didn’t happen” approach from the get go. He struggle is against losing to the man that reassembles her father and her suppressed personality. Imo it was more interesting read from Harry perspective and I don’t care about him. Btw. 11/10 cuck he would agree to anything just to not be dumped again.
So I only liked the ending scenes even if I prefer non-reveal endings. That is because only then the girls are into it off their own free will. Also Laura looking great, fuck how much I wish she didn't have hair color chainge in her main route...

Art: I was right, Laura shouldn’t have necklace with key on this route, I guess its because art was reused and removing the key was too expensive . But more serious issue is Aya bust size. it is really offputting when Aya tits are called underdeveloped , small or even “loli body” when on art her boobs are as big as her head! I know its due to artists not following direction but that doesn’t make it better, so how about not mentioning her breast size during scenes? Like Aya still could make jokes about boob size but it would be as if its her imagined issue, no other characters would aknowledge it.

Also the choices are so much worse than in part 1. There was agency in the choices, here it's basically a coinflip, the choices could very well say "Route 1" "Route 2". For me it is not a big deal because I'm not connecting with MC but I wonder how are others feeling about them.

 

[natkingdom0007]

very good