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Hey it wasn't that bad an ending for him, it was basically half of how Tyrion Lannister wants to die xD
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Hey, somebody put down flowers. You know... so there's that.
Will "NTR'd by Clumsiness" be shared here or be put in its own thread?
I like the game, but I still feel like Laura giving in to Luca's demands is so out of character for her. She would talk to Harry before agreeing to be Luca's plaything for a month. She wouldn't make that decision without including him in the process.
I disagree also she subtly asks Harry about the concept of sacrifice for the sake of a loved one. Knowing that he would chose to sacrifice himself for her and that if he knew he wouldn't allow her to make the deal she had no choice but to keep it secret. The idea of selling body to protect loved one is not exactly unthinkable.
If you want to find a fault in her thinking is the lack of attempt to outsmart Luca. Obviously any such attempt should still fail because this is NTR story ...
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The framing of the story does establish, however vaguely, how Luca's family's organized crime connections protect him from conventional retaliation. And Laura does confirm that Luca would relentlessly torture Harry because of Luca's mommy issues.
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I agree with you on Laura's notion of sacrifice, but still think it doesn't really fit with her personality to be willing to sacrifice her body for a whole month. She has to know that such a sacrifice will ruin her relationship with Harry, she is way too smart to believe otherwise..
Can someone upload the other game? It has been 2 days since the $5 has been released. Hopefully it can be put in a different thread
literally come back in like 10 days
that being said: story spoilers/teaser images much welcome!
She knows, she even comments on it. Two things to keep in mind:
-she doesn't know about depths of Harry's trauma
-she attempts to be a better person, to live up to the example Harry is setting
What part of her character speaks against willingness of sacrificing her body ? She doesn't consider her body to be a sanctum or anything. She is closer to thinking of herself as the dirty, unworthy one. In her sacrifice the part that is hard for her is not giving her body but the risk of losing Harry. But she decides that saving Harry is most important and she will accept if he hates her as long as he is safe.
With bonus scene 2 done gathering ideas for next should start soon i imagine.
Here is some scene idea maybe some patron will pick it up
Family Snowman! v1.0
Here is some scene idea maybe some patron will pick it up
Family Snowman! v1.0
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Or wait for christmass to see if anyone feels like it xD
I notice a tendency from the more eloquent members of the thread to go to great lenghts in justifying Lauras's behaviours (and calling her cheating a sacrifice or a quest for betterment is just that - justifying). Now, I'm not the greatest connaiseur of NTR history and sub-species and whatever, but I see NTR as being plain ole' fetishizing cheating; cheating is, at it's basic level, emotional abuse (the breaking of trust, the breach of boundaries, the taking consent away etc. Just read some real-life stories about cheating and the consequences it has to the cheated party and you'll see why it's a nasty form of abuse; there are always explanations for this form of abuse but never justification). Okay, this is just a visual novel or an almost-game so "no animals were harmed in filming..." but justifying cheating from an abstract medium is just that - justifying abuse but in an abstract form. Why not just call her as it is based on her behaviours: a person without sense of boundaries, flirting with sociopathy (she "saves" Harry by knowingly exposing him to direct abuse) and perhaps a tad of narcissism (the always trying to be in control of the narrative bit), so a toxic person. Her actions being "out of character" is irrelevant - those actions are what defines her character.
And that leads to my point: the only (proper) good ending (one in which a modicum of dignity is restored to the parties involved) would be for Laura to come clean to Harry, get the (much-needed) therapy and break contact with Luca; for Harry to cut all contact with Laura and hopefully to manage to heal in a way that doesn't make him less of an idealist; for Luca to get a form of criminal charge (the attempted blackmail and the roofie-ing being the most obvious).
Cheers
And that leads to my point: the only (proper) good ending (one in which a modicum of dignity is restored to the parties involved) would be for Laura to come clean to Harry, get the (much-needed) therapy and break contact with Luca; for Harry to cut all contact with Laura and hopefully to manage to heal in a way that doesn't make him less of an idealist; for Luca to get a form of criminal charge (the attempted blackmail and the roofie-ing being the most obvious).
Cheers
The thing about NTR is that people get most kick out of it is when pure girl that would never think of cheating ends up corrupted, twisted and enjoys cheating. This has like nothing to do with justification of cheating and everything to do with creating the ideal scenario for the kink to shine. In real life sex with another is cheating and when it is not cheating it is rape, there is no space for cheating as sacrifice because we at least believe to be living in lawful time/place, we want to believe there is always a better option. But if you read some histories from unlawful times like wartime you can find stories of woman sacrificing their body to save their family. Also in areas of extreme poverty you will have woman, man and even kids selling themselves to have money for food and medicine for themselves and loved ones. It in not strange to imagine they will not share what they are doing with their family or that family member may refuse to eat. It has nothing to do with abuse.
Good ending is relative. Imagine situation where Luca moves on, he finds himself girl he truly loves, none connected to Harry and loses interest in tormenting him, maybe they even become actual friends. Laura stops cheating and is happy with her love life with Harry. Is Harry learning the truth necessary for them to be happy ?
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So fodder for the abuse kink. Got it. Cool.
Regarding the corruption I have that joke with the bunny that goes hunting and the bear threatens him that if the bunny will hunt in his wood it will fuck his ass, but the bunny goes on with the hunting so is fucked by the bear; and the cycle repeats with the bear threatening the bunny, the bunny hunting and getting fucked in the ass until the bear tells the bunny "You don't really come here for the hunting, aren't you".
Regarding Harry learning the truth for them to be happy - yes, that is a must. Otherwise their relationship is permanently tainted; she would always know; and this wasn't a slip up, this was a continuous, long-term affair. Also, Harry most likely will get an STD. Because that's what you get in a monogamous relationship. And, based on her character, she will either confess during a fight just to hurt Harry (remember the "weakling" call), or would find another affair partner. Yeah, it would be realistic for her to hide the affair, but it wouldn't be "good" or conductive for a happy relationship (by that I mean - you know, trust, equal footing, shared boundaries, emotional bonding, all that jazz - happy relationship)
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Also cannibalism is both legal and justified if stranded at sea. That doesn't make it acceptable in other situations.