VN Ren'Py Completed A Promise Best Left Unkept [Bonus Scenes S2 7-8] [Hangover Cat Purrroduction]

[Chinel]

Honestly the question I make myself is.
Imagine some other mafia type that crushes on Harry, but instead of trying to get his love like Aya...goes straight to threats, kidnapping and shit because "Oh wait, I forgot. I can FORCE YOU!"

I see Aya going full 'MAIM.KILL.DESTROY', which would be cool.
Aya is great when she is causing devastation and chaos.

I wonder about Laura, thought.
She already thinks she can have two lovers, but I find fun how when Aya kills Luca she is just "Ah he ded. Bad" and seems more worried about the idea of Harry killing someone.

That not forgetting she has murderboner tendencies.

Luca would be laughing of course.

The point of NTR is the sense of 'lose'. That's why there is childhood friend, Mom and Sister NTR as well.


It has to do with betrayal, male paranoia, female corruption, and many flavours. Thankfully Japanese people aren't simple, that's why they invented so many wonderful (and others not so much) kinks.


Jelousy is more of a thing of Netorase really, that's where it really takes the spotlight.

Honestly I don't get the idea of losing something being pleasurable. I mean, you marry with someone wanting the relationship to go wrong? If there is a degree of honesty, then...why would the relationship even exist?

 

[abirvg]

The point of NTR is the sense of 'lose'. That's why there is childhood friend, Mom and Sister NTR as well.

It has to do with betrayal, male paranoia, female corruption, and many flavours. Thankfully Japanese people aren't simple, that's why they invented so many wonderful (and others not so much) kinks.

Jelousy is more of a thing of Netorase really, that's where it really takes the spotlight.

Th-...
That's still jealousy.
There's no NTR where "childhood friend, mom or sister" clearly wasn't a love interest of the MC.
At least I didn't... saw a single one?

 

[Lara Snow]

Honestly the question I make myself is.
Imagine some other mafia type that crushes on Harry, but instead of trying to get his love like Aya...goes straight to threats, kidnapping and shit because "Oh wait, I forgot. I can FORCE YOU!"

I see Aya going full 'MAIM.KILL.DESTROY', which would be cool.
Aya is great when she is causing devastation and chaos.

I wonder about Laura, thought.
She already thinks she can have two lovers, but I find fun how when Aya kills Luca she is just "Ah he ded. Bad" and seems more worried about the idea of Harry killing someone.

That not forgetting she has murderboner tendencies.

Luca would be laughing of course.



Honestly I don't get the idea of losing something being pleasurable. I mean, you marry with someone wanting the relationship to go wrong? If there is a degree of honesty, then...why would the relationship even exist?

This is a kink for masochist men and sadist women. Don't look at it with a vanilla eye. Let alone from the male perspective only.

Nothing is more lustful than cheating. And lust gets me going, losing myself on pleasure. As simple as that. No thinking, just feeling.

I can't speak for the men who enjoy that masochist anxiety, but they exist, there's a big reason the genre took over Japan like a storm and even poured outside of it.


Let me ask you a question myself: What's the point of the same boring male mc harem snoozefest? To each their own...

 

[Chinel]

This is a kink for masochist men and sadist women. Don't look at it with a vanilla eye. Let alone from the male perspective only.

I mean, sadism for me is like...taking a knife and carving something on the guy's skin and then slowly making him bleed to death.
Or searing him alive.
Or slicing his skin off.

Or since we discuss about the feeling of misery and despair, perhaps something like...
Well, killing his parents?
Dunno, brings despair and that is part of the thing, right? So a masochist would like that?

Mind you, I am trying to understand, so sorry if it is extreme examples.

Nothing is more lustful than cheating. And lust gets me going, losing myself on pleasure. As simple as that. No thinking, just feeling.

Hm, right, so that is more about losing oneself to the pleasure and...the feeling of tricking someone else? Would this be about feeling above someone else?

I can't speak for the men who enjoy that masochist anxiety, but they exist, there's a big reason the genre took over Japan like a storm and even poured outside of it.

Might need to talk with a masochist to understand them. Is there someone in this site that you might know?

Let me ask you a question myself: What's the point of the same boring male mc harem snoozefest? To each their own...

Miss. I hate the harem genre. First because there is a disgusting lack of bi male elements, I would love an harem with also males in it, it would be novel.

Also, the fact that the characters are less characters and more 'look, pretty girl', and nothing. Could as well bring a cardboard and call it a day.

Also the fact they do not develop the damn MCs and the damn haremmetes. Learn to write, morons. Good writing gets me hard.

Also the fact it is all centered in a single character.
What? Can't it be polyamory no? What the hell. That is also why the whole 'buh what if MC is a ALPHA CHAD' doesn't buy me. It won't change the dynamics, it will be the same thing, except that MC now might make a girl wet as well.

 

[Gnoomoos]

Th-...
That's still jealousy.
There's no NTR where "childhood friend, mom or sister" clearly wasn't a love interest of the MC.
At least I didn't... saw a single one?

There are plenty of such NTR games for example for mom NTR

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games with mom heroines if you are looking for something in english. Sure maybe at some point protag may get aroused by seeing their mom being defiled but at no point they tried to actually pursue her as love interest or even thinking about her in that way iirc.
Its just westerners for some reason wants to turn everything into harems even with family members hence so many incest games here (nothing wrong with those btw)

Point of NTR is not just jealousy but also loss and betrayal. Jealousy is main aspect of NTS, where no matter what happens - heroine will stay with protag. Sure in some games NTR may turn into NTS in one of the endings/routes and vice versa but the game cant be equally NTR and NTS at the same time, one thing will always be "primary" focus and other "secondary". I noticed that many (or some) people want to have "safe" NTR but its just Netorase with extra steps as "NTR" cant be "safe" by definition.

On unrelated note. HC posted first CG preview on his patreon, heroes are always welcome.

Also for some reason my APBLU started to reset my in-game settings, gallery progress & read text every time i lunch it, saves are loading fine but text in those would be marked as unread. I tried to clear both in game save folders and in appdata\roaming\renpy folders but it didn't solve it. Maybe somebody here had encounter similar problem.

 

[XLuteX]

Saved Data Pls

 

[CorrHen]

Saved Data Pls

You can just go into the ending selection and use those to get any ending you want.

 

[XLuteX]

You can just go into the ending selection and use those to get any ending you want.

I want to Unlock this pls

 

[tungnguyen15920]

Why i can't open the game on Mac version ? pls reply T.T

 

[SteveyP]

Why i can't open the game on Mac version ? pls reply T.T View attachment 2991340

Unzip this file. Open it, a terminal window should pop up. Drag the application ("APromiseBestLeftUnkep") into said window and press "return". Once the process is complete, try to open the application again. It should work then.

 

[Lara Snow]

Would this be about feeling above someone else?

It's about corruption, having no limits. Not everything in life has to be stupid lovey lovey vanilla. I also like rape scenes, I have rape fantasies, gangrape even, and if in that fantasy I have a boyfriend to feel cheated upon it, EVEN BETTER. Do I think consent is overrated in RL? Not in the slightest, and above all I would never have a male love interest or partner. It's fantasies, on this case the fantasy of being brainfucked and taken away, the lust defeating love. Some of us have the guts to dream darker, that's all. And, I think I said it once on another discussion on this thread, for me to find MF content alluring at all, it has to be spicied with darker stuff like this. For 'vanilla' and wholesome love, I stick to lesbian stories.

I have a very dear friend in RL, whom is into dolcett.. Now she's the sweetest sweetheart there is, yet... She is that dark in what makes her ticking. Thankfully the world of sexuality is a bottomless pit where there's always something new to discover.

 

[Revo]

None of my three artists wanted to illustrate it,

This make me chuckle for a second, is a bit funny thinking that the artist are food with sex (possible rape), but they don't feel comfortable with gore.

Well, that was..something.

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Please tell me this is not the "good ending" I'll find it so disappointing if this is true

it was removed because the first choice will start the aya routes-part 2 , which is currently in development, when part 2 is also complete i assume it will merge with part 1 and the choice will be back

So Aya route will be its own game? Or the main game will be expanded?

And us who enjoy this kink hate them as well.

The only good ending is Laura and Aya making the pathetic Harry kill himself, and he fails, of course, because he's a useless piece of shit.

Glad to see you hate boner is still as hard as steel

I mean, sadism for me is like...taking a knife and carving something on the guy's skin and then slowly making him bleed to death.
Or searing him alive.
Or slicing his skin off.

Or since we discuss about the feeling of misery and despair, perhaps something like...
Well, killing his parents?
Dunno, brings despair and that is part of the thing, right? So a masochist would like that?

Mind you, I am trying to understand, so sorry if it is extreme examples.

Hm, right, so that is more about losing oneself to the pleasure and...the feeling of tricking someone else? Would this be about feeling above someone else?

Might need to talk with a masochist to understand them. Is there someone in this site that you might know?

Miss. I hate the harem genre. First because there is a disgusting lack of bi male elements, I would love an harem with also males in it, it would be novel.

Also, the fact that the characters are less characters and more 'look, pretty girl', and nothing. Could as well bring a cardboard and call it a day.

Also the fact they do not develop the damn MCs and the damn haremmetes. Learn to write, morons. Good writing gets me hard.

Also the fact it is all centered in a single character.
What? Can't it be polyamory no? What the hell. That is also why the whole 'buh what if MC is a ALPHA CHAD' doesn't buy me. It won't change the dynamics, it will be the same thing, except that MC now might make a girl wet as well.

Brother, you are talking to a huge pervert lol (no disrespect), so you should drop the psychological evaluation since Laura won't bend her ideals to understand your point of view, and based in this situation you might be wasting your time

 

[Rawr Gu]

I want to Unlock this pls

You can click unlock all there

 

[abirvg]

I can't speak for the men

Well that's important distinction.
Of course you are not jealous if you associate yourself with FMC - nothing really 'taken' from her. Not her loved one - that's for sure.
...I guess it's technically not even NTR from female perspective (coz 'netorareta'='stolen'). Funny as it sounds.

For you - in terms of emotions - it's something like rape scenes for men, I guess?
It's just totally different emotion.
And (not-in-love)harems for you would be more like NTR for men?

Though there's several great NTR movies with lesbian couple as MCs.
Japan has it all, goddammit.

Some of us have the guts to dream darker

She is that dark in what makes her ticking.

There's nothing 'dark' about fantasies or role-playing. No matter what they are.
Playing Call of Duty doesn't make you murderer.
BDSM is literally torture - which even during wars is unconditional warcrime. Yet as long as it's coscesual and everyone aware - it's just a fun time.
No one should ever be ashamed of it, or their cravings.

No one is ashamed of playing Call of Duty.
No one would ever think of you as "not a nice person" just because you blow up some heads in game and watch their guts spill out.

 

[abirvg]

Point of NTR is not just jealousy but also loss and betrayal.

Yeah, but that's a part of jealousy.
If you and the other guy woe for the same job and he actually gets it, effectively stealing it from you completely - you still would be jealous.
Just like you can be jealous of someone's great car or a dress.
It doesn't have to be rational. In fact most of the time it's not - and we fight it off with our prefrontal cortex.

And it doesn't have to be the same every time, also.
Jealousy, like any other emotion, is not really an 'emotion' - it's a group of emotions.
You can imagine it like color red. There's indefinite amount of 'reds' in the world, on photos and paintings. They are not the same, but we group them for convenience's sake.
Just like there's ungodly amount of types of Fear we can experience.

Everything you described is still a Jealousy.
...I think?

 

[Lara Snow]

There's nothing 'dark' about fantasies or role-playing. No matter what they are.

I use the word 'dark' in a descriptive fashion, not from a judge of morality one. Nothing wrong with darkness. Same when someone slut shames, I enjoy owning my sexuality so being called a slut, I shrug, I take it as a compliment.

 

[Chinel]

It's about corruption, having no limits. Not everything in life has to be stupid lovey lovey vanilla. I also like rape scenes, I have rape fantasies, gangrape even, and if in that fantasy I have a boyfriend to feel cheated upon it, EVEN BETTER. Do I think consent is overrated in RL? Not in the slightest, and above all I would never have a male love interest or partner. It's fantasies, on this case the fantasy of being brainfucked and taken away, the lust defeating love. Some of us have the guts to dream darker, that's all. And, I think I said it once on another discussion on this thread, for me to find MF content alluring at all, it has to be spicied with darker stuff like this. For 'vanilla' and wholesome love, I stick to lesbian stories.

Hm...I know about the term 'ravish' in regards to rape fantasies, so I am aware of it, more or less, so...corruption and...

Wait, this is about freedom isn't it? Corruption - Freedom. But freedom in an sense of being 'untouchable'? But...

How do you feel free if you are being 'taken' away? Like, wouldn't it about having absolute power over the situation and your choices ruling over all? So why is it 'taken' but not 'I break my chains and fly away by my own volition' for instance?

Again I am just asking questions to try to get a deeper understanding of that. I do appreciate darker content...it is just half of it involves misery on the characters in a different level, but sometimes I have the impression that it is...not sexually? Dunno.

I have a very dear friend in RL, whom is into dolcett.. Now she's the sweetest sweetheart there is, yet... She is that dark in what makes her ticking. Thankfully the world of sexuality is a bottomless pit where there's always something new to discover.

Dolcett? As in, Dulce?

Brother, you are talking to a huge pervert lol (no disrespect), so you should drop the psychological evaluation since Laura won't bend her ideals to understand your point of view, and based in this situation you might be wasting your time

Nah, I am trying to understand hers, it is different.
You see...I do like bloodshed and that thing, so I wonder if it is same thing, I assume she is a sadist so...yes?
It is just that I think 'cheating Harry and breaking his heart' isn't the same thing as 'torture him to the point of trauma, make him miserable and let Laura and Aya see, now they are all miserable as well' for a sadistic introspection.

So I wanted to understand that, why one and not the other? Don't they work on a same function?

 

[Lara Snow]

How do you feel free if you are being 'taken' away? Like, wouldn't it about having absolute power over the situation and your choices ruling over all? So why is it 'taken' but not 'I break my chains and fly away by my own volition' for instance

I won't explain to you the freedom you can fin in submissiveness. You either feel it or not. Nothing more boring to me than 'choosing'. Any good Mistress/Master will always tell you the real person in power in a D/s relationship is the submissive one. If you can't easily understand why then I Can't explain, it involves many nuances and specific situation I'm not someone confortable enough to write an essay on it, specially on English, which isn't my first language.

Being set free of any choice, of not having to think, to exist only to feel, that's also freedom ,that's the freedom in submissiveness.. What Luca said many times to Laura to break her, to accept her nature as a woman... That's SO FUCKING SEXY. To be on that state of mind where you are only a woman, it's heaven on earth. It's not black or white, it's so damn grey I could never stop numering nuances, specific situations. But at the end I rather own and be proud in being a cheating whore because that's how the vanilla fragile male ego crowd sees any woman who isn't devoted to a male mc they self insert into... So why bother and instead own it head high

Of course a man like Luca would have a short grasp on me, since he's also a possesive prick. I think he is quite lame himself and only shines due to Harry being the most pathetic male specimen in their country.

Dolcett? As in, Dulce?

No... Don't google it. It's extreme.

Brother, you are talking to a huge pervert lol (no disrespect)

Non taken *giggles*. I'm a sex positive person and never ashamed of my kinks. This is a porn visual novel forum for fucks sake. The guilt some people feel to talk about what they like is so big it's a saddening thing.

 

[Chinel]

I won't explain to you the freedom you can fin in submissiveness. You either feel it or not. Nothing more boring to me than 'choosing'. Any good Mistress/Master will always tell you the real person in power in a D/s relationship is the submissive one. If you can't easily understand why then I Can't explain, it involves many nuances and specific situation I'm not someone confortable enough to write an essay on it, specially on English, which isn't my first language.

I guess I understand, perhaps it might be me being more of 'freedom is to do WHATEVER I WANT' bullshit lol, but I will admit it is interesting because freedom being...to bend the knee is quite something.

If that is of any confort, english is not my first language either lol.

Being set free of any choice, of not having to think, to exist only to feel, that's also freedom ,that's the freedom in submissiveness...

Freedom to give up, then? As in 'I can lower my shields and nor fear harm' in that sense? Hm...I suppose that makes sense in a way. It is funny because often than not it seems to be about desiring and having it fullfilled without any guilt.

I guess I am getting it, can't say it is my thing, I prize having absolute control too much lol.

What Luca said many times to Laura to break her, to accept her nature as a woman... That's SO FUCKING SEXY. To be on that state of mind where you are only a woman, it's heaven on earth. It's not black or white, it's so damn grey I could never stop numering nuances, specific situations.

"No wrong or right, no rules for me, I am free! Let it go!"
I think I got it. TBH my only issue was her deciding that Harry deserved to suffer for not getting that. I mean, if she just left him, it would be okay, he didn't get that, then that is his problem lol.

But at the end I rather own and be proud in being a cheating whore because that's how the vanilla fragile male ego crowd sees any woman who isn't devoted to a male mc they self insert into... So why bother and instead own it head high

Hm...well, ego is indeed a fragile thing for both genres I would say, I lost the count of girls/women who get all annoyed if they ever think that their boyfriend/husband is getting another girl's attention.

Or even when they ask for open relationships, you accept and they get annoyed when their friends hit on you and you go. I mean for god's sake! What is the fucking point!? Shouldn't you just go and sleep with whoever you wanted at this point instead of getting annoyed your partner has people to sleep as well? Meh.

People are annoyingly disgusting.

Of course a man like Luca would have a short grasp on me, since he's also a possesive prick. I think he is quite lame himself and only shines due to Harry being the most pathetic male specimen in their country.

Honestly a guy like Luca makes me want to beat him down until he submits, then we can put him on his place, by fucking his ass, making him suck you off and all that. He might be domineering, but with proper control and domination, you can crack any will away and remake the person.

The feeling of power is staggering.

Harry is weird, the exact moment he gets what Laura is...he just goes for her either way and becomes exactly like the guy he hated so much. Ah the irony. Regardless what I would find fun is to also break him and own him, then parade him and Luca before Laura and Aya and tell why they are all weak.

"You never took over, so someone needed to, now see how I took both, seized them for myself and reshaped them to my own design, like an architect and god! Cry and despair at your loss and learn!"

No... Don't google it. It's extreme.

...well, more than...eh, I guess I could ask in DMs? I am not squeaky over extreme shit really.

Non taken *giggles*. I'm a sex positive person and never ashamed of my kinks. This is a porn visual novel forum for fucks sake. The guilt some people feel to talk about what they like is so big it's a saddening thing.

...
*perceives I literally spoke about everything that gets me jollies.*

If you all wish to feel disturbed, please do, I suppose it is quite sociopathic in parts? Eh, depends.

 

[Lara Snow]

It is funny because often than not it seems to be about desiring and having it fullfilled without any guilt.

It 100% is!! That's a very good way to word it. Also don't mix being submissive to have the need to submit to someone. I'm a pushover, but I have no master, nor I ever will. Ill be the bitch of anyone I find myself attracted, and those men are one in ten thousand, I'm very very picky since this is just I rarely ever do, most of my sex/love life is lesbian relationships. And since the subject came up, no I don't enjoy D/s dynamics among women. I don't like mistresses or subbies. I like being equal among women, which means I'm only attracted to subby ones (Hoping we can sub together for third parties ) and so on. I rather have a quiet but eventful when it happens sex life than a very active one filled with just boring one on one interactions.

I guess I am getting it, can't say it is my thing, I prize having absolute control too much lol.

Which is fine. We are all made different. I can't feel any sexual drive in control, is boring. I can pretend I like control because I'm good at that, but only for a selfless moment for someone I adore. But I won't be getting any pleasure from it.

Or even when they ask for open relationships, you accept and they get annoyed when their friends hit on you and you go.

Then they weren't ready. There are many steps to an open relationship. And definetely mixing it with friends is no way to start.

...well, more than...eh, I guess I could ask in DMs? I am not squeaky over extreme shit really.

It's about being raped but killed dismembered cooked and eaten or whatever. Basically murder rape and profanation of the body.