A question to all Ntr fans

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When playing an Ntr game, do you prefer to have a male or female protagonist ?

And also, if you do like a male protagonist, do you like when things happen while your away, and you see the after math and maybe have a peek of what going on? or cutting to the females perspective to see the seen you're not there for?
 

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When playing an Ntr game, do you prefer to have a male or female protagonist ?

And also, if you do like a male protagonist, do you like when things happen while your away, and you see the after math and maybe have a peek of what going on? or cutting to the females perspective to see the seen you're not there for?
While I'm not a fan of NTR myself, I grew curious at how people could possibly like a fetish that seemed like it would make every man want to put his fist through the monitor in rage. What I learned was that NTR is essentially not about sex, it's the enjoyment of being emasculated and humiliated. So, in NTR, it is only necessary to cover the cuck's feeling of inadequacy and humiliation.

That is why NTR will sometimes put the wife's POV to further reinforce that as she comments on things such as how the new man's dick is bigger, or he is more assertive in sex, and just generally more of a man than her partner could ever hope to be. So, if you do feature the wife's POV, then her conversation and inner monologue must focus on the cuck's flaws. Her guilt due to cheating on her husband should either be very short lived or not present at all.

That being said, there are people who enjoy not having any idea why they are being cucked, simply being blind sided by the news with no idea what went wrong. The cuck can never do anything to get his wife back in true NTR. Not knowing how it started or why she left him is a good way to demonstrate that. The husband wouldn't even know where to begin to get his wife back because he never knew there was a problem to begin with and thus cannot fix what went wrong. It also implies that if the man were to leave and find another girl, then history would repeat itself.
 
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I do not like NTR but I find that if it was from the female pov or if you were the person doing the cucking it is not as irritating and doesn't make me as angry at the game for locking the choices of the mc on rails. Like in one game I recently played the mc was written as a total beta with 0 options to have him asert himself the game forced the NTR on you as there is no way to escape it. I did not like that at all.

I also don't like how it typically portrays women as if love was something so easily destroyed by someone with better technique or a bigger dong than the victim. Weak minded women with nearly 0 loyalties willing to hop on a bone just for a little bit of pleasure... I don't care how big a guy is if he raped you there should be no force on Earth that keeps you with him...
 
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I do not like NTR but I find that if it was from the female pov or if you were the person doing the cucking it is not at irritating and doesn't make me as angry at the game for locking the choices of the mc on rails. Like in one game I recently played the mc was written as a total beta with 0 options to have him asert himself the game forced the NTR on you as there is no way to escape it. I did not like that at all.
Well, NTR tries to give a feeling of hopelessness and despair, so people who enjoy NTR would most likely never choose that option and since non-NTR fans wouldn't ever play an NTR game, is there any point in catering to them?

Also, would you really want to get back together with her? I know I wouldn't. She has already shown that you didn't satisfy her to the point where she was willing to destroy your relationship in her pursuit of better sex. History would simply repeat itself, whores will always be whores, just because you won her back from one guy doesn't mean she won't leave you for another the first chance she gets.

I also don't like how it typically portrays women as if love was something so easily destroyed by someone with better technique or a bigger dong than the victim. Weak minded women with nearly 0 loyalties willing to hop on a bone just for a little bit of pleasure... I don't care how big a guy is if he raped you there should be no force on Earth that keeps you with him...
In reality that is true, however, this is a fantasy, a fantasy for people who want a complete mental beatdown. What is more humiliating than being told you're so bad at sex that she would prefer being treated like a play thing by an ugly rapist rather than staying with you?
 
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I'm going to tell you guys something that will blow your fucking mind.

I am neutral about NTR.

Yes.

For real.

You see, a story is a story. The MC is not me, the heroines aren't people I know and while a piece of fiction can (and often does) provoke an emotional response in the end it only affects me at a superficial level.
But there's the thing: you need conflict to drive the plot. Random slice-of-life with happy couples is simply boring, gimme some drama. Now a conflict doesn't have to involve NTR or anything in relation to cheating but hey, why not? A serious love triangle, characters having second thoughts because they committed too quickly, seemingly irreconcilable differences between life styles or opinions on important matters... all these things can cause relationship problems and lead to infidelity, and this can be pretty compelling when done well.

Which is why the best NTR I've experienced in fiction is surprise NTR. Not "hey this is a game about NTR", because this isn't my fetish. No, the kind hidden behind the Major Spoilers setting on vndb, the kind that makes a story gripping and not yet another bland fuckfest.

I feel like my opinion should be the majority, but for some reason I never see it expressed. Either the majority is silent or I'm actually fucking weird and never realized it.
 

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I'm going to tell you guys something that will blow your fucking mind.

I am neutral about NTR.

Yes.

For real.

You see, a story is a story. The MC is not me, the heroines aren't people I know and while a piece of fiction can (and often does) provoke an emotional response in the end it only affects me at a superficial level.
But there's the thing: you need conflict to drive the plot. Random slice-of-life with happy couples is simply boring, gimme some drama. Now a conflict doesn't have to involve NTR or anything in relation to cheating but hey, why not? A serious love triangle, characters having second thoughts because they committed too quickly, seemingly irreconcilable differences between life styles or opinions on important matters... all these things can cause relationship problems and lead to infidelity, and this can be pretty compelling when done well.

Which is why the best NTR I've experienced in fiction is surprise NTR. Not "hey this is a game about NTR", because this isn't my fetish. No, the kind hidden behind the Major Spoilers setting on vndb, the kind that makes a story gripping and not yet another bland fuckfest.

I feel like my opinion should be the majority, but for some reason I never see it expressed. Either the majority is silent or I'm actually fucking weird and never realized it.
Netorare is roughly translats to "taken away by sex." In an NTR game there is no love triangle because she doesn't even consider getting back with you. It's also not a conflict, you lost without ever having a chance to put up a fight. It's a game designed to emasculate and beat you down emotionally with no escape or recourse. It rarely has an interesting plot because NTR games don't really expand upon events unless it is to explain how hopeless and pathetic you are.
 

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Netorare is roughly translats to "taken away by sex." In an NTR game there is no love triangle because she doesn't even consider getting back with you. It's also not a conflict, you lost without ever having a chance to put up a fight. It's a game designed to emasculate and beat you down emotionally with no escape or recourse. It rarely has an interesting plot because NTR games don't really expand upon events unless it is to explain how hopeless and pathetic you are.
NTR only means the love interest is taken away. It does not forbid good endings, does not condemn the victim to a life of misery and certainly doesn't have to include relentless humiliation. More importantly the love interest isn't necessarily stolen away via sex.

You have no idea what you're talking about dude.
 
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NTR only means the love interest is taken away. It does not forbid good endings, does not condemn the victim to a life of misery and certainly doesn't have to include relentless humiliation. More importantly the love interest isn't necessarily stolen away via sex.

You have no idea what you're talking about dude.
While what you say is certainly true, NTR is targeted towards a certain demographic who prefer a feeling of hopelessness with a bad ending, and so that is how they all end. Someone could, in theory, write NTR into a game as a sub-plot as maybe a trial by the MC, I'd like to see something where the MC gets NTR'd and starts to distrust women, then he meets someone else the story is about overcoming that trauma and learning to trust and love again.

However, to my knowledge it hasn't been done, games with NTR follow the same NTR plot and use it as the focus of the game to leave the reader with a sense of emptiness and jealousy. It is always done through sex, because that is what the word means. Anything else is simply cheating. It's like calling an apple a potato that doesn't really taste or look like a potato but it is because you said it was.
 

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While I'm not a fan of NTR myself, I grew curious at how people could possibly like a fetish that seemed like it would make every man want to put his fist through the monitor in rage. What I learned was that NTR is essentially not about sex, it's the enjoyment of being emasculated and humiliated. So, in NTR, it is only necessary to cover the cuck's feeling of inadequacy and humiliation.

That is why NTR will sometimes put the wife's POV to further reinforce that as she comments on things such as how the new man's dick is bigger, or he is more assertive in sex, and just generally more of a man than her partner could ever hope to be. So, if you do feature the wife's POV, then her conversation and inner monologue must focus on the cuck's flaws. Her guilt due to cheating on her husband should either be very short lived or not present at all.

That being said, there are people who enjoy not having any idea why they are being cucked, simply being blind sided by the news with no idea what went wrong. The cuck can never do anything to get his wife back in true
NTR. Not knowing how it started or why she left him is a good way to demonstrate that. The husband wouldn't even know where to begin to get his wife back because he never knew there was a problem to begin with and thus cannot fix what went wrong in . It also implies that if the man were to leave and find another girl, then history would repeat itself.
Like in one game I recently played the mc was written as a total beta with 0 options to have him asert himself the game forced the NTR on you as there is no way to escape it. I did not like that at all.

I also don't like how it typically portrays women as if love was something so easily destroyed by someone with better technique or a bigger dong than the victim. Weak minded women with nearly 0 loyalties willing to hop on a bone just for a little bit of pleasure

Thanks.
 
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Well, NTR...
I wasn't necessarily saying getting back with the girl I was saying I would have liked to play the game as an alpha and possibly prevent it in the first place. I mean in the game I was thinking of all that would have needed to be was more options with sex for the mc.
 

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I prefer playing a female protagonist if there's NTR because I don't automatically put myself in her shoes like I do with a male MC. If the main character is male I stronly dislike having "my girl" taken from me. If I'm playing as a female I literally don't care one way or the other. There are exceptions where the female main character is well developed enough that I actually do feel some attachment/empathy for her but it's rare. It's even rare for the girl's SO to be a sympathetic character if the main character is female. Usually he's a total loser. Usually I play those types of games as a total slut and just fuck everything that moves. I usually also try the non NTR path but it's very rarely an interesting alternative.

If the main character is male I don't mind NTR being in the game as long as the player can prevent it. Unfortunately most games that include such an option usually do so by just removing NTR content and not replacing it with anything. So you have a game that might be interesting if you pick the NTR path but probably boring if you don't.
 
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Male protagonist.

The best game with NTR in my opinion is Big Brother. I am normally not into being a cuckold, but somehow I enjoyed watching Eric fuck every chick in the house.
 

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NTR (porn) videos with husband being cucked - you are ther other male perspective or neutral viewer - great!
NTR VN, male protagonist (you) - FUCK NO!
NTR VN, female protagonist (you) - sign me in! I would try to fuck everything that moves in return

Yeah, I would argue thats its something masculinity - dominancy type of things. I would see myself in MC shoes/identify as MC and that makes me seriously uncomfortable in a very deep level. Since I can't identify directly to the character, in female perspective it doesn't touch me that hard , if you catch my meaning...

My question would be for the female opinion on the NTR.

Are there actually any women on the site? :unsure:
 
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My question would be for the female opinion on the NTR.

Are there actually any women on the site? :unsure:
There are a few, some of us are open about it, some keep it on the down low.

NTR/cuckolding is mostly a male fantasy, not a female one. I can't really speak for how common it is in real life, but cuckolding is a far more popular category in porn than cuckqueaning (where female shares her male partner with a woman).
 
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There are a few, some of us are open about it, some keep it on the down low.

NTR/cuckolding is mostly a male fantasy, not a female one. I can't really speak for how common it is in real life, but cuckolding is a far more popular category in porn than cuckqueaning (where female shares her male partner with a woman).
There are women, really? NAH, get out.....really?
Interesting. Lewd games strikes me as extremelly male thing, on the other side that people used to think about porn too and its obviously not true.

Well, as I stated in several post. It's not something I could be immersed in so I pass on NTR in games. Same goes for other fetishes I don't enjoy having in my own fantasy. I am not opposed to it in japanese porn movies since its very foreign for me and I can't really identify with anybody in that world anyway.

So do you personally like NTR (cuckholding and/or cuckqueaning)?
 

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one and gaming itself are very male-driven, and definitely caters to make tastes. So I guess when you combine the two there aren't a lot of us. But if you've ever seen the way some people act when there's a female with a mic on the squad, you can understand why we might be hesitant to advertise ourselves.

So do you personally like NTR (cuckholding and/or cuckqueaning)?
Not really. NTR usually implies cheating on some level, and cuckolding/cuckqueaning is usually one person not involved.

Threesomes are interesting in theory and fun to fantasize about (FFM and FFF, NOT FMM), but I would never personally be in one. I don't know if it would have an effect on my relationship, but I have far more to lose than I do to gain from one.
 
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Threesomes are interesting in theory and fun to fantasize about (FFM and FFF, NOT FMM), but I would never personally be in one. I don't know if it would have an effect on my relationship, but I have far more to lose than I do to gain from one.
Yeah, as a male I say it's generally a bad idea in a relationship. Tested by reality. I had one in college (years back) with my gf at the time and mutual girl friend. We wanted to explore, we wanted to try new stuff. She somehow became very jealous on anybody afterwards even though it wasn't that good sex since all three of us were kinda nervous and unsure how to enjoy it. We broke up the month after.

In retrospect, I don't have regrets but still wonder if it's was really worth it. I guess it all goes down what kind of relationship you are in and how really secured you are both about it...
 

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There are a few, some of us are open about it, some keep it on the down low.

NTR/cuckolding is mostly a male fantasy, not a female one. I can't really speak for how common it is in real life, but cuckolding is a far more popular category in porn than cuckqueaning (where female shares her male partner with a woman).
I think a lot of that has to do with how masochism plays out in men verses women. While both view pain as pleasurable, the mental approach is different.

Men, I think due to our nature, physical altercation is an inevitably and whether you win or lose a fight isn't as important and standing up for yourself and being willing to fight, regardless of the result. It's all about pride, are you willing to fight a hopeless battle? So, I think men don't tend to view being beaten up as something all that shameful, as it's inevitable, there is always a bigger fish, what was important is that you were willing to not give up without a struggle. In fact many of the people written down in history as brave are those who died in a fight they couldn't expect to win but fought on regardless. Such as Gen. Custer at the battle of Little Big Horn. This is especially true when compared to submitting before you even attempting to fight back. So, the ultimate shame to a man is blind submission without ever putting up a fight, and the more important the thing that you give up without contest, the more emasculating it is. Which I think is where netorare comes in, meekly accepting that another man will be having sex with your girl instead of you is the most pathetic thing a man can do.

I'm not sure about women, while I know enough about women to date them and keep a relationship going, if asked what response a woman not making would be the most shameful, I'm coming up blank. Maybe it is embarrassment, society places a lot of pressure on women to be "pure," not sure how to best word that, but I do know that reminding a girl how lewd and shameful she is being seems to achieve the best results.
 
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I think a lot of that has to do with how masochism plays out in men verses women. While both view pain as pleasurable, the mental approach is different.

I'm not sure about women, while I know enough about women to date them and keep a relationship going, if asked what response a woman not making would be the most shameful, I'm coming up blank. Maybe it is embarrassment, society places a lot of pressure on women to be "pure," not sure how to best word that, but I do know that reminding a girl how lewd and shameful she is being seems to achieve the best results.
I didn't think much of the masochism aspect of things. Maybe it's just all about power or lack of it. The cuck is giving up considerable 'power' in the relationship when allowing another man in. Women are generally expected to be submissive, which is why a popular fantasy among women is being dominant in bed.

Can't speak for the rest of the world, but here in the USA liberal feminism is the norm, which usually means slit-shaking is frowned upon and promiscuity is the highly supported (not encouraged per say, can't think of the right word.