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1. only one paperweight is ever available for sale. The rustic stones are only available if you have under 20 mana
2. Kate's appearances very much depend on your interactions with her, for instance insulting her in the first meeting. I have not checked your save yet, what happened last with her?
3. How long has Mrs Granger been in the hospital, she recovers from the ER based on other events
4. sonds like a mnor bug in the notes, if you did the Ritual not a problem
5. Dr Kay has limited meetings, did you charm her on any of your meetings? The hospital is an alternative to the school to charm her. The hotel is mostly post charm, but does very much depend on time of day
6. talk to her, it will advance story lines including Kate's and Leanne's
7. as noted talk to Legion
8. the bath scene depends on if you accepted to go upstairs when Lauren mentions Sarah is taking a bath. if you leave all further events a locked out
9. do you have the vase? If not get it, charm Gina is the usual way though invisibility will allow you to get it too
thank you for your answers.

However... quote from walkthrough

"You can find a paperweight for 3$ in the general store. You can free the Stone inside at the Wild Ranges. You can only have one paperweight at a time." -> that implies you are able to buy them constantly, just as you can ask for more letters of credit from Gates if you have under 30 bucks and don't have a letter in inventory. NO rustic stones for sale either.

Kate: studied together, answer correctly to the bet, saw her breasts and bottom.

Kay: had a checkup in hospital, she invited me to meet her in the evenings to tell me more. Did not tried to charm her (no shielded charm)

Vase/Gina: don't have the vase, Gina is charmed (as well as museum curator)
 

cmacleod42

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thank you for your answers.

However... quote from walkthrough

"You can find a paperweight for 3$ in the general store. You can free the Stone inside at the Wild Ranges. You can only have one paperweight at a time." -> that implies you are able to buy them constantly, just as you can ask for more letters of credit from Gates if you have under 30 bucks and don't have a letter in inventory. NO rustic stones for sale either.

Kate: studied together, answer correctly to the bet, saw her breasts and bottom.

Kay: had a checkup in hospital, she invited me to meet her in the evenings to tell me more. Did not tried to charm her (no shielded charm)

Vase/Gina: don't have the vase, Gina is charmed (as well as museum curator)
No, there is only one paperweight ever sold. The rustic stones can be bought at the New Age Store if your mana is < 20

For Kate there should be a meeting at her home after her mother was hospitalised

Dr Kay - largely that is it, you did not charm her in the two main places, at school or at hospital. Currently her scenes are in development

If the Vase is still at the museum try to pick it up, or talk to Gina in the security office and she will give it to you
 

chichong

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... so I tried to play again. Too many questionable / glitched things in previous playthrough so a clean slate was required.
Also, in my stupidity, I assumed that if I play the murder path I will somehow have the option to kill / eliminate people I don't like. Eh. All I got were different glitches.

1. So for starters, when I look in the mirror I get some absurd numbers like 511174. And I can bet my bottom dollar that at day 3-4 was ok. It's a safe bet because I have the saves and I checked.

2. The moment Legion escaped from cellar, Kate vanished from park. I checked (with cheats - she went in location 184 - hotel room 101). I had to manually move her in 47 (park entrance) so I could finish her quest "properly". Also have saves before and after cheat.

3. So the long overdue Sarah charm opportunity presented. Oh, happy day! ... Only to discover she pretty much loses the ability to talk. No information about dangers at night, vampires, nothing about ghosts. (Yes, I also have a save after charming her when I give the vine bottle)

4. So in order to make Lilith appear, I cheated (again). People -> vampyre I switched "uncharmed" in "reset to start of events". Yes, I have the save. However, I have zero knowledge on how the things are supposed to unfold. Because I had zero game information about how to proceed. After she (inexplicably) didn't attacked me or Sarah or Lauren I finally managed to learn Unlife (but I suspect I have something to do with the spell explicative dialogue being a pop-up instead of button of text). After that, suddenly Esmeralda had info on vamps and library had books about stakes. So now I have stakes but I can't use them. Lilith is charmed and her presence (and icon) is annoying and disturbing and I have no means to kill her (and I tried to talk pretty much with everyone, even the fkn Aquarium janitor).

5. And of course the dream about Elian popped immediately.

6. Had sex with Keana but neither nuns in church or Sarah have any ghost advice. Yes, I have the crystal ring.

I suppose I could cheat again and put Lilith in "uncharmed" status. But this would still not solve my ghost issue. I assume in order to trigger the ring sequence I need to gather that specific information in-game. But there is no-one to offer it.

I need advice. Please.
 

cmacleod42

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... so I tried to play again. Too many questionable / glitched things in previous playthrough so a clean slate was required.
Also, in my stupidity, I assumed that if I play the murder path I will somehow have the option to kill / eliminate people I don't like. Eh. All I got were different glitches.

1. So for starters, when I look in the mirror I get some absurd numbers like 511174. And I can bet my bottom dollar that at day 3-4 was ok. It's a safe bet because I have the saves and I checked.

2. The moment Legion escaped from cellar, Kate vanished from park. I checked (with cheats - she went in location 184 - hotel room 101). I had to manually move her in 47 (park entrance) so I could finish her quest "properly". Also have saves before and after cheat.

3. So the long overdue Sarah charm opportunity presented. Oh, happy day! ... Only to discover she pretty much loses the ability to talk. No information about dangers at night, vampires, nothing about ghosts. (Yes, I also have a save after charming her when I give the vine bottle)

4. So in order to make Lilith appear, I cheated (again). People -> vampyre I switched "uncharmed" in "reset to start of events". Yes, I have the save. However, I have zero knowledge on how the things are supposed to unfold. Because I had zero game information about how to proceed. After she (inexplicably) didn't attacked me or Sarah or Lauren I finally managed to learn Unlife (but I suspect I have something to do with the spell explicative dialogue being a pop-up instead of button of text). After that, suddenly Esmeralda had info on vamps and library had books about stakes. So now I have stakes but I can't use them. Lilith is charmed and her presence (and icon) is annoying and disturbing and I have no means to kill her (and I tried to talk pretty much with everyone, even the fkn Aquarium janitor).

5. And of course the dream about Elian popped immediately.

6. Had sex with Keana but neither nuns in church or Sarah have any ghost advice. Yes, I have the crystal ring.

I suppose I could cheat again and put Lilith in "uncharmed" status. But this would still not solve my ghost issue. I assume in order to trigger the ring sequence I need to gather that specific information in-game. But there is no-one to offer it.

I need advice. Please.
Hi
with all the moved/cheats it is difficult to know what to advise here, the events you describe are not faulty, I have no reports of issues. In some cases you are just being impatient, for instance the events for Lilith happen later on, not immediately on charming Sarah. Other events in the game will enable.

Speak to Kate any time you see her, and try to free her, never move her using the cheat menu. Other events will move her and make her available

For Keana you need to have sex a couple of times, until at least you do so with her in her nurses uniform, then options open up

You can only kill Lilith on the murder path, and only before she becomes your, so during the exchange process with Sarah
 

chichong

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Hi
with all the moved/cheats it is difficult to know what to advise here, the events you describe are not faulty, I have no reports of issues. In some cases you are just being impatient, for instance the events for Lilith happen later on, not immediately on charming Sarah. Other events in the game will enable.
I did 2 things. Moved Kate from hotel to park, and reset Lilith. You don't have to rub it, I feel bad enough about cheating anyway.
And Lilith part was because I was in turn 15k+, Sarah was charmed in like turn 5k and absolutely nothing was happening into town. No more humans to charm, only supernatural beings.

Speak to Kate any time you see her, and try to free her, never move her using the cheat menu. Other events will move her and make her available
Let's reiterate a bit. Help Kate with math / Win bet / Her mom is shot / Go to her house, comfort & use ring on her / Kate goes to park (where I avoid talking to her til I'm ready to take out Davy). That moment use ring again, declare love & other crap. Not exactly rocket science. But if she is NO longer in the park, I can't speak to her. And if she's stuck in hotel room with Davy, the moment I enter, it triggers the confrontation between me and him - without the planning in the bar lounge part.

For Keana you need to have sex a couple of times, until at least you do so with her in her nurses uniform, then options open up
That's an odd thing to put it politely. So given the option to bang a supernatural thing, the PC natural decision is to go for it instead of researching the possible outcomes.

You can only kill Lilith on the murder path, and only before she becomes your, so during the exchange process with Sarah
Yeah, I get that after I went thru 300 forum pages. Like I said, the problem was I had no more people to charm in town and Sarah "darkness" dialogue was not triggering. But resetting Lilith put me in the "two choices scene" (I'll protect you / How much time do we have) without her providing me addition information or even asking for the book.

It seems I have to start over again if I want a clean, free of cheats complete playthrough.


Thank you for your patience, dude. I know I was annoying af with my questions, but I need to finish the game to put my mind to rest. Sorry, I'm weird that way a "completionist". If in a game I have a single quest uncompleted it drives me insane.


Here. To replace those less-pretty pics with Jessica at home. And a save game before resetting Lilith (maybe you can see why the dialog is not triggered).



Later edit. Changing 0 to 1 at Vampyre "other toggles" did the trick. I had conversation with Sarah about darkness, then the story unfolded itself.

I wish it was an option to unleash Lilith on certain NPCs and have them eliminated (preferably painful and messy), but you can't have all, right? Besides there are more than 5 so it is what it is.
 
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EagerSwitch

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I just updated from an older version and I hate not having inventory and spellbook on the right. Any way I can change that without code diving?
 

cmacleod42

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I just updated from an older version and I hate not having inventory and spellbook on the right. Any way I can change that without code diving?
Check the apps in your phone, there is an option for where the inventory is show
 

Karnewarrior

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I think I fucked it - I met Anita in the general store at the beginning of the game and now, ages later, I actually know what to do with her but now she's not spawning.
I can't seem to get to some other characters either. There seems to be a lot of missable content.
 

cmacleod42

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I think I fucked it - I met Anita in the general store at the beginning of the game and now, ages later, I actually know what to do with her but now she's not spawning.
I can't seem to get to some other characters either. There seems to be a lot of missable content.
Anita appears twice in the general store, but after those if you do not charm her she is gone
 

Rosen King

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Anita appears twice in the general store, but after those if you do not charm her she is gone
I think it's actually possible to use Pass in a certain room (the French teacher's room?) to find her even when she's supposed to be gone, though I imagine it's not intentional since you'd have no reason to think to do that. I forget exactly how it happened, since it was a long time ago, but I remember thinking, "There's no way that's what I was supposed to do there..."
 

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I think it's actually possible to use Pass in a certain room (the French teacher's room?) to find her even when she's supposed to be gone, though I imagine it's not intentional since you'd have no reason to think to do that. I forget exactly how it happened, since it was a long time ago, but I remember thinking, "There's no way that's what I was supposed to do there..."
In one of the storylines she is actively trying to kill you if I remember correctly and after her failure you investigate her and find leads into that room, stroy wise the door is locked and you need to pass in order to surprise attack her.
Gues that Option is available on every storypath though
 

cmacleod42

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I think it's actually possible to use Pass in a certain room (the French teacher's room?) to find her even when she's supposed to be gone, though I imagine it's not intentional since you'd have no reason to think to do that. I forget exactly how it happened, since it was a long time ago, but I remember thinking, "There's no way that's what I was supposed to do there..."
That is on the murder path, on the apprentice path the general store is the place to find and charm her
 

Karnewarrior

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I think it's actually possible to use Pass in a certain room (the French teacher's room?) to find her even when she's supposed to be gone, though I imagine it's not intentional since you'd have no reason to think to do that. I forget exactly how it happened, since it was a long time ago, but I remember thinking, "There's no way that's what I was supposed to do there..."
I'd do that, but I can't find the french teacher either.
 

MasterFXLXL

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We will ever be able to turn into a demon (succubus or incubus) and turn the girls into thralls by sucking their souls?
I mean, that could be like the ultimate form of slavement. A village full of thralls and a diferent ending for this
 
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