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storm1051787

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I don't think MC was the late secret son or bastard.
He might be a noble-born, but related to the king might be too much for the story.
But one of the slightly possible is: Melissa might be the second prince's child.
*Same hair colour*
We only see the second prince from the surface and don't know the depth of the story, but he is greedy and wakes war against his brother without proper reason.
Also, war will always raise taxes anyway. So we can't confirm whether he is truly evil or not.
but the older king is indeed no good.

It would be funny if my theory is okay, then the second prince realised his daughter was still alive and became competent and benevolent lol.

I mean if you have the incest turned on the MC is still Marcus's son and pretty much says that the Mc is illegitimate.
 

lancekro

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Could I ask you , what difference does it make if we don't kill Gurtak and Tia's father .
Also , what's the alternative to not destroying the chalice.
Emi260297 's reply to you explains Gurtak and Tia's father very well.

As for the chalice there are 2 other option, but the impact those will have in the future is explained very vaguely in the WT.
those choices are :
-Take the chalice and give it to the people who hired Melissa. My guess about the impact of this choice is that they will most likely use it in some way, so some people in the game's world will suffer it's curse.
-Take the chalice and drink from it. According to the WT this raises MC's corruption and fills his lust bar, and it will lead him to a dark path with a drastic change in personnality.
 
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Emi260297 's reply to you explains Gurtak and Tia's father very well.

As for the chalice there are 2 other option, but the impact those will have in the future is explained very vaguely in the WT.
those choices are :
-Take the chalice and give it to the people who hired Melissa. My guess about the impact of this choice is that they will most likely use it in some way, so some people in the game's world will suffer it's curse.
-Take the chalice and drink from it. According to the WT this raises MC's corruption and fills his lust bar, and it will lead him to a dark path with a drastic change in personnality.
Thanks to you & Emi260297 Drinking from Chalice can make MC more evil ?
Also does making Gurtak your minion adds anything to story to make it interesting ? I mean is the impact big & can we kill him afterwards ?
 

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I mean if you have the incest turned on the MC is still Marcus's son and pretty much says that the Mc is illegitimate.
The problem is his mother's side.
Who was she and what lineage she was from?
Marcus was indeed someone who had something noble and wanted to change it.
So, MC's mother might be some high noble or royalty.
However, the rule of noble marriage allow to marry close-tied family member likes First cousins can marry with each other.
Even today some countries legally allow First cousin marriage. (Including many Western Europe)
Still legal and can count as non-incestrous if MC has sex with his cousin.

*Hope the Dev can give us the information of his mother even by a bit. But Mc as Royalty who has rights to the throne might be a problem when the nation needs to have a new king*
 

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What's the latest version of Firebane's cheatbook? cause i think we could add ebonite weapons and armor before.
 

storm1051787

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The problem is his mother's side.
Who was she and what lineage she was from?
Marcus was indeed someone who had something noble and wanted to change it.
So, MC's mother might be some high noble or royalty.
However, the rule of noble marriage allow to marry close-tied family member likes First cousins can marry with each other.
Even today some countries legally allow First cousin marriage. (Including many Western Europe)
Still legal and can count as non-incestrous if MC has sex with his cousin.

*Hope the Dev can give us the information of his mother even by a bit. But Mc as Royalty who has rights to the throne might be a problem when the nation needs to have a new king*
Mother's side doesn't really matter. A bastard is still a bastard and the mc wouldn't have any real ties to the family regardless, and also the whole cousin thing is kind of a myth. In mideval europe nobles would marry other nobles for political ties and it just happened so often that eventually everyone was a first or second cousin of everyone else
 

Ntrsugar

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Mother's side doesn't really matter. A bastard is still a bastard and the mc wouldn't have any real ties to the family regardless, and also the whole cousin thing is kind of a myth. In mideval europe nobles would marry other nobles for political ties and it just happened so often that eventually everyone was a first or second cousin of everyone else
Mother's side doesn't matter ?
What ? Ofc it matters , otherwise bastards children from father's would be considered full nobility too.
 

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I mean if you have the incest turned on the MC is still Marcus's son and pretty much says that the Mc is illegitimate.
The Original story has no incest.
It's just feature for players to enjoy and I don't think it's should hold any effect on the actual story.

The cannon story is that MC is the son of Women whom Marcus was a bodyguard to , and she was married to another man.
Possibility nobility of the opposing faction, that's the reason she gave up the MC to Marcus.
 

Ntrsugar

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The problem is his mother's side.
Who was she and what lineage she was from?
Marcus was indeed someone who had something noble and wanted to change it.
So, MC's mother might be some high noble or royalty.
However, the rule of noble marriage allow to marry close-tied family member likes First cousins can marry with each other.
Even today some countries legally allow First cousin marriage. (Including many Western Europe)
Still legal and can count as non-incestrous if MC has sex with his cousin.

*Hope the Dev can give us the information of his mother even by a bit. But Mc as Royalty who has rights to the throne might be a problem when the nation needs to have a new king*
Pretty sure MC's mother was high Nobility cause why else would MC's life be in Danger.
Hopefully more lore in future.
 

lancekro

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Thanks to you & Emi260297 Drinking from Chalice can make MC more evil ?
Also does making Gurtak your minion adds anything to story to make it interesting ? I mean is the impact big & can we kill him afterwards ?
So far we don't know exactly, the impact of drinking the chalice is not implemented in the game yet.
As for Gurtak, so far it only makes the battle in Callan's rest easier but the potential future implications aren't in the game either.
 
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storm1051787

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The Original story has no incest.
It's just feature for players to enjoy and I don't think it's should hold any effect on the actual story.

The cannon story is that MC is the son of Women whom Marcus was a bodyguard to , and she was married to another man.
Possibility nobility of the opposing faction, that's the reason she gave up the MC to Marcus.


The original story was incest. Other relationships change when you turn it on too it's not just the mc. Like Frisha is actually Garon's daughter for example but Emily only tells you this if you have incest turned on. Essentially incest in the game is a hidden switch and modifying the letter flips the switch on. This is a typical work around for patreon so the developer can claim they didn't do it if Patreon ever finds out.
 

storm1051787

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Mother's side doesn't matter ?
What ? Ofc it matters , otherwise bastards children from father's would be considered full nobility too.
Neither the mother or father's side matters with bastards unless they get legitamized later. Bastards had no claim. And usually would only come into power if their parents had no legitament hiers
 

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That is pretty frustrating to see
Yeah the egg picking is a bit bugged, but I found a work around.
If you butcher one of the chicken or rooster then you will be able to pick the eggs, but it is temporary so you will need to do that every time you want to get some eggs.
If you check your traps every so often, you should always have at least a chicken or a rooster to replace the one you butcher.
 
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