RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.0.7] [Chyos]

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Evangelion-01

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Solak said:
I do get it, but I'll try to make my issue clearer: it's inconsistent with what we've seen in the game. You can assume those coincidences are all part of a bigger picture, but coincidences can also be just that, coincidences. If she had the ability to creat so many coincidences, if she had so much influence already, it would have been easy to simply kidnap MC.
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But she is only human now.. immortal maybe, but she can age and be killed by a sword... his parents would have searched for him and given them haveing a personal guard it's likely that they had enough influence to also have the guards search him.
Even if she used the Cult they might abonden her if they consider their own organization at danger... useing them to kill his parents in a matter that they first send their 1st son off into the world is a better plan.
Also he would only be of any good as an adult to her... raising a child doesn't seem an ability of hers... pawning that duty off to some villagers in an area of her influence is a good choice I suppose.
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Let's take the orc attack. If MC foolishly tries to avenge his father by fighting an opponent clearly out of his league, he's later found almost dead. Like you said, the orcs usually don't leave men alive, so clearly he was manipulated by Isha, right? Well in that case, she must have been nearby. Even if not, during that time, she clearly could have swooped in, "rescued" him and have him indebted to her. That'd be a much better outcome for her than trying to threaten him and appear to him as a likely evil entity who he cannot trust. MC can then tell the villagers he barely managed to hide before collapsing and returned after tending to his wounds, so there's just as much risk of being exposed as when MC enters her house.
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Not really Gurthak may not like the Chieftain but he is loyal to him... if the vission of Gurthak ordered them to keep MC alive the Chieftain would make sure Gurthak knew and understood.
I agree on the later part but she was interrupted when the villagers aproached I think Rick mentioned that Arianna found hiim and alarmed them.
A good plan needs a backup, a great plan needs a backup for the backup and a superior plan requires several backup plans... she couldn't save him so she chose to approach him as herself.
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Do you see how it doesn't hold? Same for Sabrina. A way to kill time? Isha? She doesn't have time to kill. Either she's working towards her goal or she's letting stress out... which clearly wasn't the case with Sabrina. She took risks in taking her in, took the time to teach her magic and if memory serves, openly states that she was hoping Sabrina could learn enough to help her. And since she was disappointed, says it was a waste of time and that MC was now her priority. A waste of time, not a way to kill time.
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Your time scale is still to low... Sabrina came into contact with her when her plans where at a stage of waiting... she needed MC to mature and Marcus to die... she was alone for over a century... likely a good opportunity to improve her social skills some more.
And like I said she hoped to use Sabrina for the taxing parts of her plan but gave up on her later... letting her leave was not an Option and maybe she worried that as incapeable she was with magic she could still harm her significantly in her current state (old hag you certainly remember).
Sabrina wasn't planned it was a hobby project of her to maybe gain an deposable assistant for the chores she didn't want to do herself but was previously forced to as she was all alone... so yeah great if it work and aa hazzle if not... but not a problem either way.
Solak said:
I'm not saying she didn't have anything to do with the events we know. She probably does, to some extent at least. Bt you're giving her waaaay too much credit. And with that, I'll probably be off to bed. It took me too long to keep my brain awake enough to type this.
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Hey this is all just funny museing... I may be way off or spot on but who cares aslong as not another NTR or save game questions wakes this thread again.
 
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DeminPatyon said:
can someone help summary i want to know what's going on, but i aint read all that
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In short:

Eva is saying Isha orchestrated "everything" in Arenfield: the orc attack leading to Marcus's death, the weakning of Syfa's seal, the corruption of the cult, you name it. All so that MC eventually finds his way in her humble abode where she can use him for her plans. And she's able to do all that because she's a goddess.

I am saying that all of this is crazy talk because if she was able to do all that, she'd have enacted far better plans already since that one (assuming it's one) relies on way too much randomness, too many coincidences and contrivances... and if any of it had failed, her plan was doomed (such as Rick giving MC proper directions to do to the actual shack, Rick forgetting about that one shack he heard about that one time, etc).

And Eva's counterargument was that she orchestrated that too, sprouting those ideas inside the concerned people's heads. To which I'm saying that's even worse as she'd then clearly be able to have far better plans.

For instance (that part is more of a reply to Eva's latest post btw), she couldn't reach MC in time to rescue him and have him indebted because Arianna came? Why didn't she "whisper" in Arianna's head something to get her out of the way?

But I'm kind of checking out of that conversation anyway, so...
 
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Solak said:
In short:

Eva is saying Isha orchestrated "everything" in Arenfield: the orc attack leading to Marcus's death, the weakning of Syfa's seal, the corruption of the cult, you name it. All so that MC eventually finds his way in her humble abode where she can use him for her plans. And she's able to do all that because she's a goddess.

I am saying that all of this is crazy talk because if she was able to do all that, she'd have enacted far better plans already since that one (assuming it's one) relies on way too much randomness, too many coincidences and contrivances... and if any of it had failed, her plan was doomed (such as Rick giving MC proper directions to do to the actual shack, Rick forgetting about that one shack he heard about that one time, etc).

And Eva's counterargument was that she orchestrated that too, sprouting those ideas inside the concerned people's heads. To which I'm saying that's even worse as she'd then clearly be able to have far better plans.

For instance (that part is more of a reply to Eva's latest post btw), she couldn't reach MC in time to rescue him and have him indebted because Arianna came? Why didn't she "whisper" in Arianna's head something to get her out of the way?

But I'm kind of checking out of that conversation anyway, so...
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More like saying it would be kinda awesome or "IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!"
Also you forget that the one thing she has is time... she just is an impatient bitch... she'd succeed eventually, but that isn't fast enough for her as we know.

also a reply to the last part... because it wasn't Isha that had that power... it's Syfas ;)
 
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Evangelion-01 said:
More like saying it would be kinda awesome or "IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!"
Also you forget that the one thing she has is time... she just is an impatient bitch... she'd succeed eventually, but that isn't fast enough for her as we know.

also a reply to the last part... because it wasn't Isha that had that power... it's Syfas ;)
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Doesn't matter who has it, they'd have kept Arianna out of the way anyway.

And I don't think it'd be kinda awesome. I find it more awesome when you manage to do the best you can with the cards you've been dealt. Rigging the game so it goes your way regardless is obviously impressive but would require so much power/control/influence that at that point, it's more for the shits and giggles as you could've been far more efficient with the tools at your disposal. Toying with your food isn't kinda awesome.
 
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Ottoeight said:
So, what's the latest news, folks? how is it going with the latest update's development?

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Towards the end of the month he will release the update, but he doesn’t know if he’ll complete it in time with all the sex scenes, or just conclude Mira’s story (Of this part) and then add afterwards sex scens
 
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Solak said:
I bet the surprise is a threesome with Mira and Syfa! :lepew:
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The next Update is a murder crime investigation that apparently can be solved in the "wrong" way.
Not the first time we get such a crossreference in RPGs but I gues it can be fun if done correctly
 
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zARRR said:
“Well acssstttually :geek:”, Emily can be considered a step mom… no is a step mom, both the game (Questlog) and MC and characters mention her role as such.
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Weeellll she actually only is if you enable IC useing that previously mentioned method... otherwise she is just you adoptive parent
 
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Evangelion-01 said:
Weeellll she actually only is if you enable IC useing that previously mentioned method... otherwise she is just you adoptive parent
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Impooossssible, I swear she already a step mother even if you don’t change the letter, I’ll open the game asap and restart it, to check it.

Edit: and in fact she is called step mother
 
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Evangelion-01 said:
Weeellll she actually only is if you enable IC useing that previously mentioned method... otherwise she is just you adoptive parent
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Since she was a unit with Marcus, aka MC's dad, regardless of any other character's relation with all the other characters, she is by definition MC's stepmom.

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I don't know if there is a problem with the brightness or contrast but the bow in the tutorial was impossible to see, I had to click every single tile of the house to find it, I hope this will not keep happening during the playthrough...
 
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Impooossssible, I swear she already a step mother even if you don’t change the letter, I’ll open the game asap and restart it, to check it.

Edit: and in fact she is called step mother
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Solak said:
Since she was a unit with Marcus, aka MC's dad, regardless of any other character's relation with all the other characters, she is by definition MC's stepmom.

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Which is exactly why she is only MCs step mother if Marcus is his father.
If Marcus is only his Guardian both Emily and Marcus are his adoptive Parents.
The Status is likely based on the fact that MC believes Marcus to be his father, I am not sure if it changes after learning that Marcus is only his Parents personal guard hiding him from assasins
 
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