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RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.5.9.6] [Chyos]
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As said earlier: war is changing lifes. Taxes are increased, workers are forced to be recruited into army, the business are abandoned by lack of workers. Even now, in real world, peoples in villages are waking up in 6:00 AM, to get on fields earlier, working more that 12 hours per day, returning into houses and even wasting some hours to check barns (giving food for animals, changing hay, clearing from shit). All of that for small profit, small enough to be forced into debt, if they want to have a vehicle for farm field work.
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- Jan 2, 2023
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Only one game is big enough and closer to this game, that other: "Peasant Quest". More easy, but still - same kind of story "from low life, to rich life".
- Dec 12, 2020
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Even in reality, life as a farmer is hard work and often little profit. This is especially true in times of war. The developer is not that far away from reality with Penny.
Next remember:
Penny is all alone, apart from her good-for-nothing husband. Anyone who has followed the in-game story closely will also know that she recently lost her entire family. Her parents are dead, her sister's whereabouts are still unknown. From now on she became the only one who still serves the farm. It is rather a miracle that she did not get completely run over. With this background, she is definitely one of the most interesting LI. I'm excited to see what else awaits us with her
Y'all... Less land is less work. One person doesn't need lots of land since she wouldn't be able to work it anyway. Taxes are high for everyone. Food is in DEMAND during war time. Even one person working the farm sized for one person should be at a Profit. Maybe she doesn't earn enough to pay taxes for her house, but the business should still be at a profit. Farm wouldn't benefit during war time only if the military is demanding food offerings instead of buying it.
But she's got MC which is actually a money generation machine diverting his attention to her farm and it still can't profit without heavy work on his part, and he could print more money than that doing his own stuff, so that's a bit questionable.
And if business is That bad, I don't know how she even managed to survive this long without MC.
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- Dec 21, 2020
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OK, so it is not Penny or one of her workers who collects the eggs and sells them for her.
And that the miller doesn't work in winter is also quite surprising, especially because it has not been mentioned anywhere in game. I assume I have to do the bread selling, too, correct?
Unfortunately I haven't seen an option where the MC can give Penny all the eggs and have her taking the bread and sell it to Lucius. And I also haven't seen an option where the MC can hand over Penny directly the money from the goods he sold. Instead the MC has to lockpick her chest and store gold there. But then Penny is said to be forced to use her savings.
It is not that funny if the MC constantly has to keep her farm afloat and do half of the work himself all the time. He already created the base for her farm to be profitable.
And he pays for the mercenaries protecting her leased land.
I'm even all in for the MC further improving Penny's farm. But at some point the farm has to be lucrative on its own. I'm even fine with hiring some worker who does the manual labor for the MC like the field working, wheat grinding, bread and egg selling.
The main goal is that at some point the MC should not be forced anymore to do all the work constantly by himself. Maybe he should continue to help with the farm management and make improvements to the farm and he should ensure that everything is running properly but at some point the manual and time consuming labor has to be shifted to someone else.
There are other stories and other people in Arenfield and its surrounding places which also need attention.
The game is set so she is about to reach the breaking point and "fate" send the MC "just in time" to start helping her.
We could think the problem was she wasn't selling what the farm produced directly to the Army, but to intermediaries, like Lucious and Thomas. It could be that they don't respect her enought to give her a good deal, because she is a girl and is negotiating alone, and she got taken advantage of.
Plus the MC is a lot better than her at farming and can work at any time.
But the farm shouldn't be that dependant on the MC's constant attention.
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That is my point here. Most of the time consuming work seems to fall to the MC as of now. But the MC also has to do other work.
That is all nice and fine. That is exactly where the MC comes in. He helps her out, does several tasks which are time and energy consuming (field work, wheat grinding) and as the story develops he even helps her to lease some additional land from Giron. The MC hires the mercenaries required for protection, builds the chicken coop, renovates the barn, manages the mill repair and digs an irrigation canal and builds a pasture for cow breeding and milk production.Even in reality, life as a farmer is hard work and often little profit. This is especially true in times of war. The developer is not that far away from reality with Penny.
Next remember:
Penny is all alone, apart from her good-for-nothing husband. Anyone who has followed the in-game story closely will also know that she recently lost her entire family. Her parents are dead, her sister's whereabouts are still unknown. From now on she became the only one who still serves the farm. It is rather a miracle that she did not get completely run over. With this background, she is definitely one of the most interesting LI. I'm excited to see what else awaits us with her
Normally this all should allow Penny to become profitable. But it doesn't. Th MC now just has more manual labor to do as it seems. Because now he has to check for eggs and sell them, too...
It shouldn't matter if Penny gets her vegetables from the MC at Monday already or at Friday as long as she gets them in time. And the wheat grinding should now be done by the miller, tbh. That's what this guy is hired to do. It was said that he would bring the wheat to Penny's house. So the wheat should actually never run out there. The MC could then grind some additional wheat if he has time. But the farm shouldn't depend on it anymore to be profitable already.
And originally the bread on the sideboard was meant for the MC for his own use. This also seems to have changed now.
Honestly, as of now it would make more sense if the MC would store his harvest in crates in front of Penny's house. Each Monday Penny should then take a fixed amount of vegetables out of them and sell them to Lucius. The miller should daily take a portion out of the wheat crate and grind it. There should be a defined amount for self sufficiency and one for making a decent amount of profit. Like it is the case with the potato minigame. The MC has then just to ensure to keep all the crates filled. There could also be a crate for the eggs. In that case Penny would directly get the money for selling them. Something similar could be done with the milk or even chicken meat.
Chicken and cows normally produce manure. Putting manure on the fields before planting the seeds should significantly increase the harvest.
What I'd like to see is the MC building some kind of automated watering system that waters the fields once per day. This would not only ease his work but also the one of Penny and her workers.
And I'd like the MC to be able to either buy the seeds he currently needs from Penny or from Lucius.
When it come to war times then it depends. If you can provide what the army needs you can also make a contract with the army. Provide it with food, clothing, horses, things like that. That can be quite lucrative, too. Just look at the USA. Some made a fortune during the civil war.
And the MC has everyone around himself he needs. Ophilia for example could help him with some merchant related topics even in the current situation she finds herself in right now. Her help could even lead to a pardon issued by the King for her family.
The MC could have his mercenaries protect convoys delivering goods from Arenfield to the army.
This would not only increase Penny's profits but also the profits from other people in Arenfield.
And the MC has everyone around himself he needs. Ophilia for example could help him with some merchant related topics even in the current situation she finds herself in right now. Her help could even lead to a pardon issued by the King for her family.
The MC could have his mercenaries protect convoys delivering goods from Arenfield to the army.
This would not only increase Penny's profits but also the profits from other people in Arenfield.
If the MC gets on the good side of the army and with that on the good side of the King (at least for the time being) he could even get some things changed through decrees of the King.
For example, if the MC finds a way to make the harvests of Penny's farm more productive than the harvests of the Coldstones he could have the King order them to return Penny's original land back to her. That way the MC could slowly undermine the stance of the Coldstones in front of the King.
The MC could do something similar with Giron.
Not all wars are fought with swords necessarily. Making the right friends in the right places can also be very important.
For example, if the MC finds a way to make the harvests of Penny's farm more productive than the harvests of the Coldstones he could have the King order them to return Penny's original land back to her. That way the MC could slowly undermine the stance of the Coldstones in front of the King.
The MC could do something similar with Giron.
Not all wars are fought with swords necessarily. Making the right friends in the right places can also be very important.
This game urgently needs a gallery, there are too many routes and paths, are you supposed to have a save for every single path in the game and note down which save is which? It's retarded and only someone who lives in a cave without job would have the time for that. You should be able to somehow see other routes after you complete the game.
Its my save. Played everything on winterhold update. Melissa, Helena and rescue of Yasmine, Mira Monastery and Travel to Kirlic is still open as a quest. Didnt do them, waiting for new update.
- May 24, 2020
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Haven't played the game for quite a few updates and was wondering if the princess storyline is finally being worked on. Have the MC, Kate and her mom finally left for Kirlic or wherever they were going? Maybe when the map finally gets expanded to other locations besides the ones around Arenfeld, I might take a look at the game again. Along with expanded storylines that go with the newer locations.
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Guys i'm kinda confused, which route would you guys recommend to go on Carmen? like which one you think that will be the optimal with more content and such, and which one did you take?