RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[JM24]

Why can't I serve meals in Katherine's even I have the dishes cooked already?

 

[Nellyg]

There's nothing much else to be said.

I liked the content that I got from bonus scenes so far. There are not supposed to be big ass updates, but small ones.

The thing is, a lot of the suggestions selected seem to center around the idea of the appeal of a new NTR possibility, and then "here is a vanilla scene for you".

Let's talk about the next bonus scene suggestion, for example.

"If you reject Tia, you will get a new scene with her being more dominant".

Does that seem super appealing to you?

Or maybe it's the fact that there will be a new way for Dasan to cuck the MC?

I noticed that some of the bonus scenes (but not all of them, such as the threesomes) follow this pattern.

I did not complain here, however, because Chyos puts investment in the new animations for the vanilla scene. So I always get something.

Do I like some bonus scenes more than others? Yep. While I did not hate the Frisha one, I agree that was the weakest. Because it was mostly a rework or variation of something that already existed. No new events like threesomes or even Nyra.


What I truly dislike was Ophilia, as I said many times before.

But it's more because of the writing. Chyos decided to make the geeky girl look like a slut and pushed this concept down our throats. The NTR complaint here is Thomas's participation in it and that there's nothing we can do about it for now. It's not fun, it's annoying. It might piss you off if you are not on the NTR side of the force.

It's just my personal opinion on one update. Fortunately, there are many other girls besides that... urgh... Pia.

I guess those are all my thoughts on the matter.

I agree, she said she was not so innocent and that she could take care of herself around Thomas.
Then she puts on that stupid bimbo uniform, so suddenly she comes across as stupid.
The game is coming to choices, Porn or Story...Never going to keep everyone happy.. (And it's a porn site). But Chyos has actually a story to tell and some of us like the story. Our problem is (And it's borne out by the "Save Game Pleeeeassse") most people into porn don't want a story
Personally...If Tia gets the attitude, fuck me more or I'll fuck someone else I'd be saying ......Go aheah...I've more than enough of Rumah

 

[Nellyg]

Why can't I serve meals in Katherine's even I have the dishes cooked already?

You have to wait until a certain time..5, 6 or 7 pm ( I can't remember exactly) just watch for a twinkling star on the table.
And did you cook the proper meal "Roast something with vegetables"

 

[JM24]

You have to wait until a certain time..5, 6 or 7 pm ( I can't remember exactly) just watch for a twinkling star on the table.
And did you cook the proper meal "Roast something with vegetables"

Yes I did the options are there but I just can't pick them

 

[Nellyg]

Tia is the best bitch ever. All you NTR haters are missing the best part of the game.

You're way out of line there, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and NTR was supposed to be by choice in this game.
Maybe "ugly bitch" was a little over the top, but a lot agree.
His argument was about being dragged into ntr scenarios when the game that he played, (For quite a while now) that was supposed to have optional ntr suddenly takes away that choice and starts drifting

 

[Nellyg]

Yes I did the options are there but I just can't pick them

Ok. So you have 3 of roast something with vegetables and the twinkles are showing on the table. What happens when you click on the twinkle?

 

[yazda]

You're way out of line there, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and NTR was supposed to be by choice in this game.
Maybe "ugly bitch" was a little over the top, but a lot agree.
His argument was about being dragged into ntr scenarios when the game that he played, (For quite a while now) that was supposed to have optional ntr suddenly takes away that choice and starts drifting

You are just a vocal minority. Poll numbers do not lie.

 

[Nellyg]

You are just a vocal minority. Poll numbers do not lie.

True but I've seen pole numbers so many times cause ..."Abandoned"
Anyway that was not what I was replying to you about...The man was entitled to his opinion.
You want to see your girlfriend screwing someone else is fine by me...He dosen't

 

[Deleted member 4087206]

You're way out of line there, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and NTR was supposed to be by choice in this game.
Maybe "ugly bitch" was a little over the top, but a lot agree.
His argument was about being dragged into ntr scenarios when the game that he played, (For quite a while now) that was supposed to have optional ntr suddenly takes away that choice and starts drifting

I guess he can disable ntr, is that not true? I'm pretty sure at least half of the players of the game are here because of it. It is honestly one of the best games here and in terms of ntr is top 3. The proportion in patreon must be similar too. And as other guys have said, there is always vanilla content, he could just wait a few more updates. But I agree that the game should move on to the other city, I actually like the story and I want to see it progress, it would be a good game even without all the porn in it.

 

[Evangelion-01]

You are just a vocal minority. Poll numbers do not lie.

So are you... the poll numbers for the main Stories tell a completly different tale.
The Discord Server got dominated with the NTR fans (most of them can't be even supporters based on the final votes), which means since Chyos makes prevotes there they prefilter possible content.
The Patrons have to vote on the ideas that came out of the Discord Swamp which makes them less and less apealing.
From the current Options there is none that triggers my interest in slightest.
Even the Emily, Mira and Frisha Vote is rather boring as it conclusively only result into a stay over scene for Mira and the others will leave.

I guess he can disable ntr, is that not true? I'm pretty sure at least half of the players of the game are here because of it. It is honestly one of the best games here and in terms of ntr is top 3. The proportion in patreon must be similar too. And as other guys have said, there is always vanilla content, he could just wait a few more updates. But I agree that the game should move on to the other city, I actually like the story and I want to see it progress, it would be a good game even without all the porn in it.

I'd rather say that there are 20-25% of the people here are pure NTR haters or or pure NTR Fans... most of us were following the path "as long as it's avoidable and a "Bonus" for the fans of that genre I am fine".
What riles up teh people is the trend of NTR no longer being a "Bonus route or scene" but a mayor integral of the game

 

[Wolf Larsen]

I guess he can disable ntr, is that not true? I'm pretty sure at least half of the players of the game are here because of it. It is honestly one of the best games here and in terms of ntr is top 3. The proportion in patreon must be similar too. And as other guys have said, there is always vanilla content, he could just wait a few more updates. But I agree that the game should move on to the other city, I actually like the story and I want to see it progress, it would be a good game even without all the porn in it.

Chyos, the developer, said here that the vanilla scene takes priority and every single update has a vanilla scene.

If the NTR is going to take the priority instead, he should be clear about that, because his vanilla patrons and players (like me) can leave.

But what the developer has been saying is that this will never happen and it's not happening. We can have a vanilla update without NTR, but the NTR will never have anything exclusive.

And we were debating this promise, that's it.

You are just a vocal minority. Poll numbers do not lie.

It has nothing to do if the majority of patrons enjoy NTR or not. Don't know why that was brought up. But if Chyos will bend over to the NTR patrons' wishes, then so he's pretty much a liar, but nothing so crazy has happened for me to accuse him of that, only updates that I or others didn't like.

 

[RevGen10]

So are you... the poll numbers for the main Stories tell a completly different tale.
The Discord Server got dominated with the NTR fans (most of them can't be even supporters based on the final votes), which means since Chyos makes prevotes there they prefilter possible content.
The Patrons have to vote on the ideas that came out of the Discord Swamp which makes them less and less apealing.
From the current Options there is none that triggers my interest in slightest.
Even the Emily, Mira and Frisha Vote is rather boring as it conclusively only result into a stay over scene for Mira and the others will leave.

I'd rather say that there are 20-25% of the people here are pure NTR haters or or pure NTR Fans... most of us were following the path "as long as it's avoidable and a "Bonus" for the fans of that genre I am fine".
What riles up teh people is the trend of NTR no longer being a "Bonus route or scene" but a mayor integral of the game

Only the $10 tier gets to vote on and suggest bonus scenes on the discord. I've only really ran into one or two hardcore NTR fans on the discord, most people are kind of in the middle or vanilla. Then again these are just the people who talk on the discord as opposed to the silent voters. Of the eight options currently up for prevote (for bonus scenes) only two of them have an NTR component. The rest were all vanilla scenes.

I can't deny that the ones that do have an ntr component tend to be more popular but I think that's cuz it appeals to more people (since you get both a vanilla and an ntr scenes out of it).

 

[zARRR]

Only the $10 tier gets to vote on and suggest bonus scenes on the discord. I've only really ran into one or two hardcore NTR fans on the discord, most people are kind of in the middle or vanilla. Then again these are just the people who talk on the discord as opposed to the silent voters. Of the eight options currently up for prevote (for bonus scenes) only two of them have an NTR component. The rest were all vanilla scenes.

I can't deny that the ones that do have an ntr component tend to be more popular but I think that's cuz it appeals to more people (since you get both a vanilla and an ntr scenes out of it).

Two?
I have counted more, but yeah the majority of them seems to be silent users who just pop up there to put a vote on their favorite fetish… I mean who can blame them?
That place ain’t really peaceful.

Tia is the best bitch ever. All you NTR haters are missing the best part of the game.

In your subjective opinion, but still that has nothing to do with what we are discussing about, you are missing the point.

 

[Ottoeight]

An issue with bonus scenes that I can see happening...is that people will run out of ideas lol. last cycle there weren't many ideas being suggested (there's only a few patreons that suggest things on the discord...). The option that gets the least number of votes in the prevote ends up scrapped and either modified or swapped out for a new option. I'd be fine with chyos just adding stuff he had to cut from other releases (like the new ayita/hiba option he put in because of lack of other ideas).

They run out of ideas because they're a bunch of narrow-minded limp dweebs. After the last Verena updates the most predictable and hottest bonus scenes would be: MC+Verena+Roderic threesome and MC+Verena+Claire+Roderic foursome.

And I'm still waiting for:

- Arianna becoming the Queen of Horny Bitches ( = MC's bride);
- Mira finding out about MC and Frisha.

I won't be happy till then.

 

[Dodododo105]

as someone who can enjoy both ntr and harem as long as it's written okay enough (by porn game standards), i honestly feel the game is pretty balanced tbh. like, it's influenced by the fact i haven't been following this game nearly as long as you guys, but the game itself has a pretty equal divide between ntr and harem choices with a bit of favoring harem. the only reason it seems to you guys like it's unbalanced to ntr is because you've been playing long enough that the only new content you're playing is as it's coming out so you're just reacting to whatever is in the most recent update rather than looking at the game as a whole.

on bonus scenes specifically, i don't really see the issue? like, "vanilla is priority, ntr is secondary" and bonuses scenes being more ntr lately (not that i personally consider battle-loss rape to be ntr like is some of the new scenes) isn't at all conflicting or a lie. for as much as it is a porno game with sex in every storyline, it's also a story rpg, and the vanilla paths do still get blatantly favored in every story update (which are also the big ones). like, ntr has more to find in bonus scenes precisely because they're filling in blank spots that weren't in story updates that favored non-ntr content first and foremost. for that matter, them being "bonus" by its nature means they're not beholden to any priorities at all because...you know, they're bonus not main scenes or plotlines.

there's even more than a few girls in this game whose plotlines you literally can't continue if you just stick to the ntr storyline. you have to actually opt into getting with the girl to continue the story with some. the rumah plot is pretty much the only area so far you can go full ntr storyline and have it be a dedicated route. that is in no way ntr suddenly overpowering vanilla stuff.

 

[Ottoeight]

Yes I did the options are there but I just can't pick them

Ok. So you have 3 of roast something with vegetables and the twinkles are showing on the table. What happens when you click on the twinkle?

You ALWAYS must have 3 cooked dishes in your inventory. Prepare, and serve. Then prepare.

 

[Evangelion-01]

as someone who can enjoy both ntr and harem as long as it's written okay enough (by porn game standards), i honestly feel the game is pretty balanced tbh. like, it's influenced by the fact i haven't been following this game nearly as long as you guys, but the game itself has a pretty equal divide between ntr and harem choices with a bit of favoring harem. the only reason it seems to you guys like it's unbalanced to ntr is because you've been playing long enough that the only new content you're playing is as it's coming out so you're just reacting to whatever is in the most recent update rather than looking at the game as a whole.

That's not entirely wrong... but neither correct.
The Balance between NTR and Vanilla used to be much higher in favor of the Vanilla routes... I'd even say 80% Vanilla and 20% NTR.
The fact that even you as a new Player note a much higher blaance of both genre is what we discuss here.

on bonus scenes specifically, i don't really see the issue? like, "vanilla is priority, ntr is secondary" and bonuses scenes being more ntr lately (not that i personally consider battle-loss rape to be ntr like is some of the new scenes) isn't at all conflicting or a lie. for as much as it is a porno game with sex in every storyline, it's also a story rpg, and the vanilla paths do still get blatantly favored in every story update (which are also the big ones). like, ntr has more to find in bonus scenes precisely because they're filling in blank spots that weren't in story updates that favored non-ntr content first and foremost. for that matter, them being "bonus" by its nature means they're not beholden to any priorities at all because...you know, they're bonus not main scenes or plotlines.

Yet that part is what makes people wonder... Chyos is useing quiet abit of his monthly time to develope the Bonusscenes, these are for high tier Patreons but the balance they earlier sought seems to be broken bit by bit.
My greatest concern is that the non NTR Supporters will eventually reduce their pledges as there is no reason to vote on content that is not in their fetish any longer... it's not that bad just now, but the trend seems to be worrying from my perspective.

 

[Ottoeight]

I agree, she said she was not so innocent and that she could take care of herself around Thomas.
Then she puts on that stupid bimbo uniform, so suddenly she comes across as stupid.
The game is coming to choices, Porn or Story...Never going to keep everyone happy.. (And it's a porn site). But Chyos has actually a story to tell and some of us like the story. Our problem is (And it's borne out by the "Save Game Pleeeeassse") most people into porn don't want a story
Personally...If Tia gets the attitude, fuck me more or I'll fuck someone else I'd be saying ......Go aheah...I've more than enough of Rumah

#enoughwithRumah

 

[yazda]

#enoughwithRumah

Rumah For Ever

 

[Brazilian Engrish]

Take me for example. I dont mind a game with ntr. Or a pure ntr game. But playing just this kind of games becomes quit boring. I like variety. One day a romance vanilla game. The other a corruption incest game. The next a rpg with female protagonist with management. And them a pure ntr game. I can play and enjoy they all.

This is the biggest problem with Ntr fans. They just want more and moar ntr. Can only be turned on by it. Can't enjoy others genres. Its like the fetish dominated the poor guys minds.