RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[Yotetar]

I am afraid that based on the plenty NTR focused prevotes on discord, that that one is completly overrun and dominated by NTR fans, the vanilla guys seem to strange away from it more and more... which in turn makes me question why he holds those prevotes in such an enviroment as the results are as clear as day by now.
I just hope Chyos will return to the Patreon only votes as there all his supporter vote... and not total strangers invited by the NTR loving supporters as it seems more often than not

That's something that worries me too. But the point is, Chyos knows the worries of those fans?Because I think he is only doing this for the money.

Even so, if we look at the prevote. the difference between the new addition of Giron NTR, the threesome, and Ayita is very notable. So at least in the 10$ tier is not of NTR fans. But he can lose all these fans if the content goes to the NTR, myself included. I dont mind some reality, you cant be alpha male always, but sometimes goes too far.

If I go to sleep and I wake up sweating for an NTR dream or a Tia appearance, I know who to blame guys.
We shall call this part of the thread the Tia Ntr omnipresence arc, a sequel to the Pia incident arc

Here you go:

 

[mrttao]

What’s a walkthrow, walking by throwing?

Stop exploiting physics bugs! some of us gamers are trying to play IRL fairly

 

[mrttao]

I have a couple of questions. Number one, is there a love route for Julia? Because MC said he could use her as a fuck toy, or just forget about her.

Yes. And there is more than one way to get on it.
Just do NOT put cumwine in her bedroom or she will go into the slut or NTR path (depending on setting)
If you are on slut path you can ask the mayor to award you julia as a wife after finishing quests related to mine and weapons.

 

[Yotetar]

By the way, with this I mean, that someone should tell him about those worries, and see what will be his answer, of course, this will put him on a compromised position, but it is for the best.

With that the supporters should know if its their interest to keep supporting him or not.

It is fair to know what you should expect.

 

[Evangelion-01]

By the way, with this I mean, that someone should tell him about those worries, and see what will be his answer, of course, this will put him on a compromised position, but it is for the best.

With that the supporters should know if its their interest to keep supporting him or not.

It is fair to know what you should expect.

Well you can always PM him here or on Patreon to share those thoughts... my own worries have only been growing recently but I am really considering it if the next Bonus vote after 0.5.0.0 is NTR heavy again or we'll end with more NTR Options than Vanilla

 

[Yotetar]

Well you can always PM him here or on Patreon to share those thoughts... my own worries have only been growing recently but I am really considering it if the next Bonus vote after 0.5.0.0 is NTR heavy again or we'll end with more NTR Options than Vanilla

I asked him about these thoughts, showed him the conversation here, dont know if he is going to answer, but I hope so.

 

[mercytea]

You did not see me question the Dasan's route for instance.

Or any of the NTR routes where the MC fails

In Penny's case, to achieve this you have to leave her at Lucius's mercy (similar to both situations with Frisha)
Or don't tell her about Henry's bs.

The MC is a loser, he puts his girls in harm's way

The orc scenario you mentioned fits the bill.

My problem in this particular situation is because of the simple fact that the MC is too tired to have sex with Tia.
That's it, that's the only information I got.
This is enough to make Tia want to cheat on him?
And to revert this I have to stop her giggling with Dasan?

In the non-ntr universe that mrttao mentioned, the MC never fails. The girls do not have any interest in cheating on him because he doesn't let them get violated by orcs, douchebags, while fucking demons, and the like. Not because he's too tired to have sex while in a relationship with them.

Fail to have sex? a loser of making love? You're responsible to breed to have next generation. When you have the option to stop Tia meeting Dasan, I don't see there's any problem in that...

 

[Wolf Larsen]

Fail to have sex? a loser of making love? When you have the option to stop Tia meeting Dasan, I don't see there's any problem in that...

I feel like I'm repeating myself, but simply put, I don't like the idea of having to stop the MC's girlfriend herself to talk to a prick, because otherwise, she'll cheat on him.

What a crap girlfriend, you can't even trust her, throw her in the garbage.

Evangelion-01 justification that the MC hurts Tia by doing that does sound way better, and if there's a dialogue in this aspect, yeah, it doesn't sound so bad.

But I'm being such a prick about this because I don't really like the direction this game seems to be going, that's all.

 

[mercytea]

I feel like I'm repeating myself, but simply put, I don't like the idea of having to stop the MC's girlfriend herself to talk to a prick, because otherwise, she'll cheat on him.

What a crap girlfriend, you can't even trust her, throw her in the garbage.

Evangelion-01 justification that the MC hurts Tia by doing that does sound way better, and if there's a dialogue in this aspect, yeah, it doesn't sound so bad.

But I'm being such a prick about this because I don't really like the direction this game seems to be going, that's all.

Yeah... I'm repeating myself too... If you corrupt any girl, you can't expect any girl is not a slut... I don't see there's any chance the author would change the effect of corruption to your liking...

 

[Wolf Larsen]

Yeah... I'm repeating myself too... If you corrupt any girl, you can't expect any girl is not a slut... I don't see there's any chance the author would change the effect of corruption to your liking...

The corruption didn't work to this extreme, that's all I'm saying.

You're cool with this game getting more NTR-heavy than usual, I'm not.

 

[mercytea]

The corruption didn't work to this extreme, that's all I'm saying.

You're cool with this game getting more NTR-heavy than usual, I'm not.

Your saying is not the fact... Not only Tia, you could see the other girls who are not sluts from scratch will be loyal to you if you don't corrupt them. For instance, Kate will even not allow Rick to touch her butt secritively if you don't corrupt her.

 

[Wolf Larsen]

Your saying is not the fact... Not only Tia, you could see the other girls who are not sluts will be loyal to you if you don't corrupt them. Kate for instance, Kate will even not allow Rick to touch her butt secritively if you don't corrupt her.

Man, we're going in circles here, I already addressed that in my first response to you, right?

You did not see me question the Dasan's route for instance.

Or any of the NTR routes where the MC fails

In Penny's case, to achieve this you have to leave her at Lucius's mercy (similar to both situations with Frisha)
Or don't tell her about Henry's bs.

The MC is a loser, he puts his girls in harm's way

The orc scenario you mentioned fits the bill.

My problem in this particular situation is because of the simple fact that the MC is too tired to have sex with Tia.
That's it, that's the only information I got.
This is enough to make Tia want to cheat on him?
And to revert this I have to stop her giggling with Dasan?

In the non-ntr universe that mrttao mentioned, the MC never fails. The girls do not have any interest in cheating on him because he doesn't let them get violated by orcs, douchebags, while fucking demons, and the like. Not because he's too tired to have sex while in a relationship with them.

Only denying sex is enough to trigger her wanting to commit NTR here, just that, not getting her violated by orcs or whatever.

You keep bringing up Kate.

Kate & Rick only happens if you encourage Rick to have a relationship with her.

If Kate is only in a relationship with the MC, meaning if you didn't encourage Rick and told Thomas to fuck off, does she cheat on the MC with high corruption?

No. Kate is a playable character even, you decide her choices during the minigame. With high corruption, you can make her motivated to be the loyal bitch to the MC no matter what.

Corruption = unavoidable to unlock content
So we should raise with fear of possible NTR and girls not giving a fuck about the MC anymore?

pls no

 

[mercytea]

Man, we're going in circles here, I already addressed that in my first response to you, right?



Only denying sex is enough to trigger her wanting to commit NTR here, just that, not getting her violated by orcs or whatever.

You keep bringing up Kate.

Kate & Rick only happens if you encourage Rick to have a relationship with her.

If Kate is only in a relationship with the MC, meaning if you didn't encourage Rick and told Thomas to fuck off, does she cheat on the MC with high corruption?

No. Kate is a playable character even, you decide her choices during the minigame. With high corruption, you can make her motivated to be the loyal bitch to the MC no matter what.

Corruption = unavoidable to unlock content
So we should raise with fear of possible NTR and girls not giving a fuck about the MC anymore?

pls no

In my playthrough I encouraged Rick to chase after Kate but I still make Kate to be my girlfriend first. Then I talk to Rick about Kate being my girlfriend already. That's his problem he still want to touch Kate's butt without my knowledge. Even you play the serving game of Kate doesn't mean Kate will allow others touch her butt if you don't corrupt her. You're the one theorize on the corruption of this game without evidence.

 

[Wolf Larsen]

In my playthrough I encouraged Rick to chase after Kate but

Then I talk to Rick about Kate being my girlfriend already.

lol what, is your mc bipolar?

You're right though, I've been defending this game saying that "don't worry about corruption guys, do that to unlock scenes as is required, the girl still loves you, it doesn't mean they will want to cheat on you"

If this Tia bonus scene is as bad as I'm speculating, the whole thing about "corruption doesn't deny the love they feel for the MC" is wrong.

And thus we have a game with a horrible, crap mechanic.

Unless you're a sucker for NTR, of course.

Edit: Of course, I'm not ignoring the fact that NTR off switch exists and the game should be praised for that.
But some people play with NTR on, because the premise is the punishing aspect and the game even tells you that's the way to play "as intended".
If people are getting punished to do what is necessary to unlock scenes, so yeah... crap

 

[mercytea]

lol what, is your mc bipolar?

You're right though, I've been defending this game saying that "don't worry about corruption guys, do that to unlock scenes as is required, the girl still loves you, it doesn't mean they will want to cheat on you"

If this Tia bonus scene is as bad as I'm speculating, the whole thing about "corruption doesn't deny the love they feel for the MC" is wrong.

And thus we have a game with a horrible, crap mechanic.

Unless you're a sucker for NTR, of course.

Really? You can only humiliate me when you can't talk with facts. I just want to play fair when I earn Kate's love because I want to try if there's other possibility in this game. Pathetic!

 

[Wolf Larsen]

Really? You can only humiliate me when you can't talk with facts. I just want to play fair when I earn Kate's love because I want to try if there's other possibility in this game. Pathetic!

I'm so confused. I will just back away, really slowly...

 

[mrttao]

I'm so confused. I will just back away, really slowly...

I believe I understand what he is saying so I will translate

1. He is saying that told rick to pursue kate not because he wanted rick to get her. but because he wanted to roleplay a friend of rick going "may the best man win" and then do his best to be the one who wins. When he won, he told rick to back off because he does not want rick to touch his girl.

2. He is offended that you said his MC is bipolar.

 

[Wolf Larsen]

I believe I understand what he is saying so I will translate

1. He is saying that told rick to pursue kate not because he wanted rick to get her. but because he wanted to roleplay a friend of rick going "may the best man win" and then do his best to be the one who wins. When he won, he told rick to back off because he does not want rick to touch his girl.

2. He is offended that you said his MC is bipolar.

Oh sorry, I just thought it was a weird roleplaying...

I mean, the whole situation is triggered because of a "bad choice" (NTR choice: telling another man to pursue your girl) earlier. So I don't know how to feel about that. Maybe it shouldn't be like this.

 

[mrttao]

Oh sorry, I just thought it was a weird roleplaying...

I mean, the whole situation is triggered because of a "bad choice" (NTR choice: telling another man to pursue your girl) earlier. So I don't know how to feel about that. Maybe it shouldn't be like this.

Yea. It is a bit of a clash between meta thinking and his roleplaying style.
I think his roleplaying can be counted as a form of emergent game-play where he manages to reproduce a fairly realistic scenario using tools that were clearly meant to be switches of "NTR YES/NO" from a meta perspective, but work for what he used them for.

Maybe even one worth formalizing by giving it a proper clear choice (eg: "encourage him to pursue her and step back" vs "encourage him as a rival and may the best man win")

Although thinking about it. I feel it is only realistic in the sense of too many people read too much fiction and try to reenact it in real life even though it shouldn't work. When realistically it would be more of "all is fair in love and war"

 

[Wolf Larsen]

Yea. It is a bit of a clash between meta thinking and his roleplaying style.
I think his roleplaying can be counted as a form of emergent game-play where he manages to reproduce a fairly realistic scenario using tools that were clearly meant to be switches of "NTR YES/NO" from a meta perspective, but work for what he used them for.

Maybe even one worth formalizing by giving it a proper clear choice (eg: "encourage him to pursue her and step back" vs "encourage him as a rival and may the best man win")

Although thinking about it. I feel it is only realistic in the sense of too many people read too much fiction and try to reenact it in real life even though it shouldn't work. When realistically it would be more of "all is fair in love and war"

Welp, now he's blocked from raising Kate's corruption unless he wants to get cucked.

Maybe it shouldn't be like this, since the dev did include an option to tell Rick to never touch Kate again.


Edit: But then again, this never happens in the universe that the MC never encouraged Rick and Kate to be intimate. Kate, high or low corruption, doesn't seem to give a fuck about Rick there, some people even feel guilty about it.
So yeah, I don't know how to feel about it

Edit²: Encouraging a guy to fuck a girl you also like and she's getting closer to him is a bit different from neglecting sex with your already girlfriend