VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.230a + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Old Dog]

Do we know anything yet about why Aiden seemingly forgets to blackmail Sophia for a week between tasks 3 and 4?

I don't think that he does give Sophia a week off but I am not sure

 

[Alley_Cat]

Am I right in thinking the first sex scene with Liam once you get to San Alejo is fixed, but that everyone afterwards s optional.

Therefore if you are interested in the lesbian route, which certainly has the best sexual content SO FAR, you just have to fast forward past one scene with Liam.

IIRC Alley_Cat has a walkthrough focussing on the lesbian route, or at the very least can point you in the right direction.

No, all sex scenes are skippable. The first sex scene with Liam is only if they go to the opera. If they don't, then Sophia stays home and watches porn.

I don't think that he does give Sophia a week off but I am not sure

Task #3 is on playable day 12, and a week later on playable day 13 is task #4. So yes, Aiden gives Sophia a week off doing tasks, for some inexplicable reason.

 

[xxxorro]

Do we know anything yet about why Aiden seemingly forgets to blackmail Sophia for a week between tasks 3 and 4?

One possibility is that the tasks in the classroom are over or, better, from the 3rd one forward, they will take place in different contexts than the school. Then maybe they will come back once in a while.
This also makes sense in terms of the incremental steps. The panties and the braless thing are the limit that Sophia could (realistically) agree on doing in front of the students. Going outside the school settings allows for "more creativity" and less constraints.
And again, Aiden will play a slow burn of his own, you give her time to settle after each task. That could be a possible explanation.
Also, not clear if PD 13 is on thursday or friday, the first is Sophia's free day, the second she is teaching literature, so base on that the settings can be defined.

 

[Old Dog]

No, all sex scenes are skippable. The first sex scene with Liam is only if they go to the opera. If they don't, then Sophia stays home and watches porn.

Task #3 is on playable day 12, and a week later on playable day 13 is task #4. So yes, Aiden gives Sophia a week off doing tasks, for some inexplicable reason.

Ok.....I stand corrected

 

[Alley_Cat]

One possibility is that the tasks in the classroom are over or, better, from the 3rd one forward, they will take place in different contexts than the school. Then maybe they will come back once in a while.
This also makes sense in terms of the incremental steps. The panties and the braless thing are the limit that Sophia could agree on doing in front of the students. Going outside the school settings allows for "more creativity" and less constraints.
And again, Aiden will play a slow burn of his own, you give her time to settle after each task. That could be a possible explanation.
Also, not clear if PD 13 is on thursday or friday, the first is Sophia's free day, the second she is teaching literature, so base on that the settings can be defined.

Not to mention more locations L&P has to create from scratch, further delaying progress.

Playable day 13 is a Friday. A day Sophia normally has class, and we also know there is a Dylan/Amber event of him coming back from his first few days of boarding school.

 

[Old Dog]

Not to mention more locations L&P has to create from scratch, further delaying progress.

Playable day 13 is a Friday. A day Sophia normally has class, and we also know there is a Dylan/Amber event of him coming back from his first few days of boarding school.

Does the week between tasks involve the time jump?

 

[xxxorro]

Playable day 13 is a Friday. A day Sophia normally has class, and we also know there is a Dylan/Amber event of him coming back from his first few days of boarding school.

Yes sorry you are right, the 4th one is during the literature lesson. At least, scheduled during that time slot, what, where and who is involved is another question

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

at this point it seems like its just going to drag on until late May.

he's going to boast about 700/800 renders and 10 new environments completely missing the point that that is hindering development time and we're back at 5/6 months for a development cycle but now instead of half a day it's for a third of a day

the 3 month thing for a third of a day didnt even last 2 versions.

estimate for game completion: 2040

Sad but true.

It won't change until L&P realises himself that firstly 690+ renders for a small update, and secondly also that 30 minutes tweaking per render, are not themselves a good thing. He needs to learn how to focus and how to be more efficient - no indication as yet that either are likely anytime soon.

In the meantime we will have to enjoy those pictures of Sophia in black leathers!!

 

[Alley_Cat]

Does the week between tasks involve the time jump?

That is more or less what I'm asking. The only other storyline the time jump really affects is Bennett's deadline, bringing it to playable day 17 instead of 24, which only really matters in that it's now before the first sex on the Filthy route.

 

[Old Dog]

That is more or less what I'm asking. The only other storyline the time jump really affects is Bennett's deadline, bringing it to playable day 17 instead of 24, which only really matters in that it's now before the first sex on the Filthy route.

Ok.I got somewhat confused here and thought that you meant that the tasks would not happen because of the time jump but they will.This is the only thing that I have from L&P about the time jump and Aiden tasks.

 

[AB96]

So there's still no sex scene involving Sophia and Dylan/Sam?

 

[Alley_Cat]

So there's still no sex scene involving Sophia and Dylan/Sam?

Correct. The best information we have is that the first sex scene on the Filthy route wont be until playable day 19 (we're at 12 at the moment). Which could be at least 5 years away, especially if L&P continues to expand events like he is currently.

 

[Sieglinnde]

SPOILER:


Good reference.

 

[ashitanojoe]

We must create an union to demand faster updates. We must not tolerate this anymore.

United we stand!

I'm joking.

 

[Bishop Robert]

We must create an union to demand faster updates. We must not tolerate this anymore.

United we stand!

I'm joking.

Divided we fall!

 

[Sabertooth__]

Correct. The best information we have is that the first sex scene on the Filthy route wont be until playable day 19 (we're at 12 at the moment). Which could be at least 5 years away, especially if L&P continues to expand events like he is currently.

If the first sex scene is on playable day 19 wouldn't that kind of imply that Sophia must have started doing other sexual acts like blowjobs, handjobs on other men from a few days back itself. I don't see the sex scene being the very first straight up act of cheating by Sophia. I mean I have never come across a corruption game where blowjob scenes weren't already there in the game before a sex scene came along.

 

[Alley_Cat]

If the first sex scene is on playable day 19 wouldn't that kind of imply that Sophia must have started doing other sexual acts like blowjobs, handjobs on other men from a few days back itself. I don't see the sex scene being the very first straight up act of cheating by Sophia. I mean I have never come across a corruption game where blowjob scenes weren't already there in the game before a sex scene came along.

It depends entirely on what is considered a "sex scene" by L&P, and by Patreon. It may only be that blowjobs and handjobs start at playable day 19, and that actual penetrative sex is much later. Considering the glacial pass of their content so far, I think this is more likely, especially considering that the lesbian route tends to have events first, and Ellie only has one event coming up on playable day 14. Keep in mind too that it's against Patreon's TOS to show sexual activity with minors, for which Dylan and Sam both are, so L&P needs to delay it for as long as possible.

 

[Kodek]

If I recall correctly, the “ Ellie ” route is supposed to split in the future.
I can see the scenario with Logan happening in the “bitch Ellie route ” ( I’m not calling it like that to insult Ellie in case someone is wondering, it’s just that if you make certain decisions in the game, you end up with some “bitch Ellie ” points.
But on a strict Ellie/Sophia relationship I don’t know where L&p is going.
Does they fall so in love with each other that they leave Liam and Dylan and go live together happily ever after ?
I know that many people would enjoy that type of ending but I would like to have some semblance of realism and not have an nice ending just for the heck of it.
And again, for those who don’t understand, I’m not saying that it’s bad that Ellie has made that much progress or that I would prefer other characters to be ahead of her.
It’s just that she’s still her daughter at the end of the day.
Dylan is in the same case being her son, but he is far from where Ellie is at the moment.

I think that Dylan is far away from Ellie in the 'passion' area of their relationship, but is leagues ahead of her in terms of 'lust'.

Ellie had one event that i would categorize as a corruption/sexual one which is shared with Julie btw and Dylan had several big or small event that helped build Sophia's lust towards him. And no, having a bath together (which don't have nearly as much sexual innuendos as small, normal, everyday conversation with Dylan has) and groping each other is not as explicit as Sophia moddelling for Dylan in skimpy swinsuits while getting egged by lewd comments in her backyard, where anyone could see her...at least in my opinion.

So saying that Dylan is far from Ellie is not as accurate as it sounds, he has a bigger chance of getting it on with Sophia before Ellie and she has a lot more time and build up to a proper romance. Both are good for me though, love lesbian romance and Ellie's event are the most well written for me, but at the same i like to see Sophia getting dirty too. Well, we still will need to wait several years for any of the two to get to the point.

 

[Talcum Powder]

I think that Dylan is far away from Ellie in the 'passion' area of their relationship, but is leagues ahead of her in terms of 'lust'.
...
So saying that Dylan is far from Ellie is not as accurate as it sounds, he has a bigger chance of getting it on with Sophia before Ellie and she has a lot more time and build up to a proper romance.

Not sure I agree with this - I'd be surprised if Dylan actually gets anywhere with Sophia in terms of consensual physical intimacy. She's done some pretty outrageous things to satisfy his needs, she's given in to him and even enjoyed playing into his fantasies, and I think he will continue to play an important role in her corruption. We're barely past 1/3 of the playable contents so maybe he will, but I get the sense that Sophia won't ever be turned on by her son and won't ever take him in - that is, think of him as a sexual partner.

Well, we still will need to wait several years for any of the two to get to the point.

Sad but true...

 

[Jude6]

...After a certain point, more renders do not equate to a better game, that's what we call the law of diminishing returns. As one reviewer wrote about this game back in 2018, L&P spent 25 images showing Sophia getting up and going to the bathroom in the middle of the night. I haven't independently verified this, but if it's true then it's a great illustration of terrible time/resource management...

I wasn't going to bring this up but - the first two preview renders of the Wedding dress event are a shot-reverse shot of the same moment of Sophia walking through the front door of the store.
Same goes for the shot-reverse shot of Sophia approaching Aiden on his bike.

The counter-argument to that would be, the second render (the reverse shot) doesn't take as long to put together because all L&P is doing is moving the camera from one side of the space to the other.

The counter-argument to THAT would be, if L&P weren't doing the reverse shot then he wouldn't need to have assembled the whole street outside the Dress shop and could have left everything outside the shop windows as a black void, which could be kept out of frame with careful positioning of the 'actors' (Sophia and the others).

TV sitcoms save time and money by not building the 4th wall of their regular sets and just position their actors so they never have to point the camera in that direction.

!Disclaimer! I know almost nothing about 3d rendering, so I defer to others experience. My only relevant experience is in filming and photography.