VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.230a + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Jack Adams]

Which would be harder to stomach?
Sophia's extra marital affairs?
Sophia bisexual flings?
Sophia's having sex with underage children?
Sophia committing incest with her own son/daughter?
At least two of these would look really bad for Liam since he will become the CEO of the company, also the bad publicity that would happen because of Sophia.

This is a very good question. If I may I would like to select an option that is not on the list. L&P is fond of foreshadowing, and Sophia had imaginings placing herself in the scene when she watched porn on her TV. Now she has modelled essentially nude for 'artistic' reasons. She discovered MILF magazines in Dylan's drawer and Dylan took photos of Sophia during the bikini modelling scene replete with his own photoshopped magazine cover.
With Sophia now interacting with characters like Morello (who she is still indebted to), it does not seem like a far stretch for her to pose nude in a fictional magazine like, let's say... "Trollop's Frolic". This may culminate in video that expresses the conclusion of her fantasy. What would Liam do with this sort of public display?

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Interesting choice (if I read it correctly) to avoid explaining "the renders are not ready yet for this event" by making Dylan points min 54 where all through the game you can gather max 41

You can get 42, but the 54 is a mistake. L&P should adjust it in the next update if he hasn't done it already. The renders are ready; you just need to cheat the points by using the phone to advance the scene.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

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But there are other options in the mix. Will Dylan become a pro (soccer) player to support his family? Will Patricia help out Sophia since they are sisters, and Carl may also play a role as Patricia's Husband? Will Alyssa have a relationship with Sophia since it appears Alyssa is into her?

 

[Old Dog]

This is a very good question. If I may I would like to select an option that is not on the list. L&P is fond of foreshadowing, and Sophia had imaginings placing herself in the scene when she watched porn on her TV. Now she has modelled essential nude for 'artistic' reasons. She discovered MILF magazines in Dylan's drawer and Dylan took photos of Sophia during the bikini modelling scene replete with his own photoshopped magazine cover.
With Sophia now interacting with characters like Morello (who she is still indebted to), it does not seem like a far stretch for her to pose nude in a fictional magazine like, let's say... "Trollop's Frolic". This may culminate in video that expresses the conclusion of her fantasy. What would Liam do with this sort of public display?

If Sophia ever did a nude shoot or video the mask would be perfect for it also the leathers and negligee.
I don't see a photo shoot coming up again(my opinion)
Since I suspect the leathers/mask/negligee could play a part in BDSM/roleplaying.
Also BDSM is not in the game tags(yet)

 

[Old Dog]

But there are other options in the mix. Will Dylan become a pro (soccer) player to support his family? Will Patricia help out Sophia since they are sisters, and Carl may also play a role as Patricia's Husband? Will Alyssa have a relationship with Sophia since it appears Alyssa is into her?

Alyssa can have a relationship with Sophia but further down the road you will have to pick either Zac or Alyssa as you cannot have both.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Alyssa can have a relationship with Sophia but further down the road you will have to pick either Zac or Alyssa as you cannot have both.

I know. Probably one of the few "Realistic" things from L&P... NO HAREM endings.

 

[Old Dog]

I know. Probably one of the few "Realistic" things from L&P... NO HAREM endings.

Its just a pity that Alyssa is tied to the Aide route

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Its just a pity that Alyssa is tied to the Aide route

Maybe Zac should have told Dylan not to F^%$ with them... Some friend Zac turned out to be.

 

[Old Dog]

Maybe Zac should have told Dylan not to F^%$ with them... Some friend Zac turned out to be.

There are things that you are forced into doing as you cannot turn down both side jobs.
You have to accept Aiden's blackmail if you want Alyssa to stay in the game.
You have to choose either Alyssa or Ellie.
These are just what I remember

 

[Sethus1]

Liam is loyal, he earns money for his family...
Expect to be surprised, Liam may not be that clean... (and certains activities of his modeling agency too).

Just looking on how Liam looked at Cathy is enough to suspect, that there's something "fishy".

I have only one problem with this game, that I have to read walkthrought to stay on the path I have chosen (I have 3 different saves for 3 paths), so it's pretty annoying, that one bad move and "YYYYOU'RE OUT!"

 

[XaGnard]

I'm not sure if you read this on here or if you read it on Patreon when you were a member, but here it is again from 9.24.2020.

Spoiler: My statement to the update speed matter

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Now, I agree with your comments on speed and work hours, plus some other issues I believe he has displayed. And although I'm not defending his actions, as I have criticized him on many of his comments, nor do I agree with his comments in this post, He does state his intention and rationale in this post for taking 10+ years to complete and why he's doing it.

As of right now, He's a "One Man Army" trying to tack something that needs a team. His project is too big for him to handle alone, but this is the course of action he chooses to take. IMO, I think he will eventually burn out, but the question is, what is his threshold for burnout?

In his post, L&P talks about 10 years, which might barely be possible with a lot of long term motivation for a one-person project. Only that with AWAM the issue is that L&P would take about 27 more years from now at the current development speed (1.5 years for one game day) to finish the 30 game days he has planned.

So maybe it is better to have a just "good game" finished than the first half of a "perfect game" that is canceled.

The solution to this dilemma has always been obvious. It is not a matter of developing lower quality images, nor is it necessary to work with more than one person on the project. It is only necessary to size the content in such a way that it can be accomplished in a reasonable amount of time. L&P must learn to leave out the unnecessary side stories (like for example all this silly side jobs of Sophia), unnecessary characters (like for example a completely separate group of students just for this stupid aiden task art class) and unnecessary repetition of already in a similar way contained events (e.g. three instead of only one blackmail story).

Let's face it. L&P must become much better at project management. It's been four years now and the story is still pretty much at the beginning.

 

[Bane71]

The most dangerous route for her is Aiden. The rest are, her own family, or with one partner: Sam, Zac, Alyssa, ...
The least dangerous to her marriage is Morello.
So, some help from Morello to get rid of Aiden is the perfect choice for her marriage.

So you think the mafia and its boss are less dangerous for Sofia than the school bully?

 

[Bane71]

A bad ending for Sofia means complete bankruptcy in every sense. Family, financial and social fiasco. Throughout the game, she has not demonstrated great ability in the matter of making money. She only spent them. Liam can be criticized for various reasons, but only he in this family earns real means of living.

Sofia has been working as a teacher for more than 10 years and, apparently, she did not receive a salary?

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

So you think the mafia and its boss are less dangerous for Sofia than the school bully?

Mob > Aiden any day of the week. Liam will end up paying the Morello's one way or another. And Aiden is a criminal but that could be easily handled compare with the Morellos.

 

[nexer]

So you think the mafia and its boss are less dangerous for Sofia than the school bully?

Liam is the only one to blame for what will happen on this route. Do you think Liam can blame Sophia for what she'll do to save the family? Liam will shut up and actually be grateful to Sophia.

As for Aiden, the development is worrying

 

[lockerxx]

How many clicks on the mouse until you see an lesbian scene with mom and daughter?
thats the only thing i care about
fuck the rest

Masturbation class with mom.

 

[Rudrig]

You can get 42, but the 54 is a mistake. L&P should adjust it in the next update if he hasn't done it already. The renders are ready; you just need to cheat the points by using the phone to advance the scene.

I just downloaded the entire game half an hour ago and is still 54 points. Also, what phone and where to cheat the last point?

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

I just downloaded the entire game half an hour ago and is still 54 points. Also, what phone and where to cheat the last point?

Click the heart icon at the top right of the screen and you get this. Unless you're playing on an Andriod Phone, then I can't help you with that.

Spoiler: Heart Icon.

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[Dr.SigmundFap]

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Masturbation class with mom.

Hey, another Sex Ed theme, but a sexy one at that. So we are up to how many sexy themes now? 3?

 

[Talcum Powder]

* The only thing I noticed is that the sun cannot enter a real artist's studio because they are all oriented to the north to try to have the most constant light possible. But actually the 100% realistic look I don't care, because the renders look better like it did. Everything else is fine IMO.

I know from personal experience that there are plenty of real artist’s studios that do not have north-facing windows but you’re absolutely correct, that is the generally accepted design standard.