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ancienregimele

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So.....have they gone yet? Unfortunately I think not. You know who I mean, those 'nay-sayers' & 'pooh-poohers' who come to the thread at each & every update, rant a lot, whine a lot & make hardly any constructive criticisms. They use the space to vent then leave promising never to return, without a hint of irony. If only it were true. This time, though, I thought some patterns were discernable & one of these concerned remuneration for successful developers. (I use the term "remuneration" because it's a big word that my profession uses to upgrade its technical terminology BUT also because the money patrons donate is not strictly pay as we know it. It's a donation to encourage the Dev to keep on producing).
It has been likened to the commissioning of a renaissance artist by a wealthy patron & in some ways it's similar. No organisation I ever worked for, (13 in total), paid people large amounts to go slow. Retainer payments can come close, however, while at the other extreme there is piece-work, payment by results & the like. I've thought about this but I'd be interested to hear what others think around the subject of devising a better way to reward productive Devs & possibly decrease remuneration to those who are not so productive. Mass abandonments, (as advocated by some commenters) are not likely to happen & would IMO not produce much that could be termed positive. One thing that I do believe is that the current Patreon system of payment relies too heavily on the willingness &/or ability of those being patronised. Is it still fit for purpose?
Having said all that....I enjoyed this disjointed, out-of-character update. It wasn't strictly logical but I enjoyed it.
 
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Old Dog

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(without the husband) Didn't think about it, but you are probably right. She will already be without a husband and will be able to afford much more, because the beginning of deception has already been made.
I still think Liam will have something to pay in all of this for his stupidity with gambling.
 

母娘蜜猟

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I felt like the shower scene was a big miss. The hottest scene in the game was that pool scene in the last update. This shower scene is the follow-up for that scene....and it was more or less a repeat of the previous shower scene without the tension.

They could've sucked on each others boobs, which to me is a natural progression from what previously happened, and would've been 10X hotter than just kissing and groping again. That could've advanced easily to a masturbation scene too.
The shower scene would have worked well if Sophia had kept masturbating with Ellie. Stopping so early felt far too conservative from a narrative perspective. But if she and Ellie had actually started sucking on each other, that would have felt out of character to me- because that would be a really big step forward. I could have bought a scenario where, while they both masturbate they lean on one another or feel each other up. Maybe even that Ellie would learn in and kiss Sophia while they both climaxed. But for them to both start sucking on each others boobs is too big a jump for me. That said, at least it would have been progress!
You guys did say my words !

First of all, the breasts groping scene was kinda short, boringly repeatable to what Sophia/Julia did at the pool and i can't believe that our little devil Ellie was not trying to put her lip interactively on her mother's nipples. By the way, jumping to the masturbation subject was a smart way of L&P, i think it helped the Sophia/Ellie to move fast to their comfortable zone further. So i could forget the breasts groping for a while.

Good start but bad end and lack of the tension in this section, as you guys analysed. I'd like to share mine:

1. Inconsistent Sophia's behaviour:
- After turning on by just looking her daughter's naked body, trying to move her ass back to feel her daughter's hairy little bush and then having her daughter's "permission" to masturbate, but Sophia could quit her tension easily ??
- She should have continued this lesson with Ellie till the final, both of them must have cummed together; if they could have change their hands to masturbate to each other, wow it would be fantastic, the big spotlight of the whole update !

2. Where's is the old bold Ellie:
- Ellie started her mother's big breasts topic since the previous day (after pool scene, she whispered to Sophia) and then she actually asking to soap them in the shower, but following up this was just some quick nipples's brushing. She was cutting it out to jump to the masturbation topic, OK, a pausing and a smart jumping.
- The masturbation session was flowing well by the way (even Sophia stopped incomprehensibly) until Ellie climaxed "FUUUCK!!!". What if she did not collapse into her mother's arms but leaning forward and trying to suck Sophia's nipples, to finish what she started ? Everything could have driven crazy more...

3. L&P treatment:
- The kissing between mother and daughter are still the spotlight of all time, but in this update it was kinda weak and faded. I can understand the progressing, the meltable Ellie after climaxing,... But can you put more details on this sweet moment? Such as more different angles, more describing words, more tongues,... there was not even a single animation of this goddamit !
- I think i will make a chance to Update 0.150 when Sophia/Ellie/Partricia join together in Sam's concert in the evening. Damn it, It maybe around next December.

I just changed my tier on Patreon, more than 50% decreasing. To make it as a stick for this lasted update's quality, and also a force to help him drive faster :)
 
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Bane71

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Can someone give an honest answer how the new update is? keep in mind i am a fan of slow corruption.Even if the update contains nothing but teasing , i'd love it. The only probleem is developers seem to take their time putting out the updates.Had me quite disappointed lot of times recently.Still love the game to bits.
It's very individual, it's not about honesty. Personally, I really liked it. And yes, I only see one problem, slow update. Otherwise, almost everything suits me.
 
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Alley_Cat

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Jul 20, 2019
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Anyone having problem with installing the android version? I have 5GB of free space yet cannot be installed.
I've had no problems whatsoever on my Android tablet. Installed without issues and have even been able to muck about with my save files, changing flags etc
 

PietruccioTheHilander

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Jul 17, 2019
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I'm a big fan of this game, I've supported L&P and think that he's making a game unlike almost anything else.

But this update is a disaster. There's no way around it.

I think a lot of us were worried about this update. Not (necessarily) because it lacked certain popular characters, but that it felt like it was going to be a low content update with building blocks for future stories.

And that's exactly what it turned into.

The lack of sex isn't necessarily the problem.
The limited nudity isn't necessarily the problem.
The meandering story lines can be fixed.

But we waited 100+ days for this update, and it's nothing.

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god bless you brother you wrote everything in my place, I think exactly like you
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Esko

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Maybe by version 0.300 and something worthwhile will appear. In the meantime, this is squeezing money from suckers, and there was one such from them.
 

Mando Logica

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I haven't played this version yet, but I read the comments and people don't speak very well about this version of the game. Perhaps I will refuse to renew her patron.
I suggest and prefer to give it a try yourself. Everyone has his/her own opinion about that game. People compare the game to other categories they like more (maybe more nudity and sexual scenes), but the style of this game is different. That's why there are categories for the games at the end :). For me, I like to follow more than one category.

Besides, regardless the updated version is good or not, I appreciate the efforts of the team who did their best to develop that version.
 
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Esko

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I suggest and prefer to give it a try yourself. Everyone has his/her own opinion about that game. People compare the game to other categories they like more (maybe more nudity and sexual scenes), but the style of this game is different. That's why there are categories for the games at the end :). For me, I like to follow more than one category.

Besides, regardless the updated version is good or not, I appreciate the efforts of the team who did their best to develop that version.
I'm not saying the game is good or bad. I play games because of the plot and beautiful kratinka. And this game has everything, but this update, to me, did not really work. All I want to say.
 
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