You have nice findings there. But I think DPC's method is more effective practically, considering his speedy updates. And you seem to find out his formula. How did you figure out DPC uses Maya/3dsMax/Blender?OK, BaDik is a big game
Here, bad topology
Here, UV needs more work
What is this, what does she want to do with this bottle? Ifs he wants to drink out of the bottle, the position's weird.
the width of the doors is not for normal people.
Except characters, all is base resolution, no Normal map, No Bump, ....
Look at this one, no reflexion
L&P needs more time for his renders, a lot more.
I think DPC uses a lot: Maya/3dsMax/Blender and knows how to work well with it.
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Now play the game and see what an adult game actually is.
This one, someone selected the character mesh and scaled it. He painted using a noise. Big diff between character resolution and the tennis wristbands resolution. If I buy a tennis wristbands I want a Normal Map too.
Here, these shadow peaks from place to place means that he used a low poly mesh.
OK, maybe I can make a porn game with renders using Filament and who knows, make more money than DPC.
Good to know
There’s a number of characters that could be “fused” in my opinion:
Alyssa/Amber
Sam/Zac
Vicky /Nathalie
Janitor/bennet
Oldmen/mail man
Subway thugs/homeless drunks
Carl/mr morello.
Etc, etc...
For example, what’s the point of Amber in the story? She’s not a love/sex interest for Sophia.
She’s just there for a side-storyline for Dylan when he comes back from boarding school every weekend (every 5 years in real life, at least...).
What is Zac, if not a subdued version of Sam?
Even their two last events were similar:
-Massaging Sophia shoulders
-A “what if” scenario
-Sophia in teasing mode
We even have a similar situation with Neil and Alyssa previous boyfriend of being 2 abusive people.
We could have the same situation that happens in the Neil event, but instead of nothing resulting of it (literally), here Amber/Alyssa would be in the event, witnessing what Neil did to Sophia. This would be the end of Neill as he would be kicked out of the house, ending in the same way where we’re at in the game right now:
-Neil was a one and only event and has been absent since then even narratively/plot wise speaking.
-Alyssa boyfriend was mostly a Neil that has been removed before the storyline.
Carl/don morello are basically rich guys that serves as plot devices that will help Sophia to get out of problematic situations.
The only interesting part of the janitor character was that he is a father that hasn’t seen is kids for four years and that Sophia empathized with him in that moment.
Instead of having 2 side characters, why not adding this background to Bennet, adding more depth to this character.
As you said we don’t need to explore the same theme/trope with slightly different characters.
In the same way that we don’t need 35 or I don’t know how many characters, to explore 35 themes/trope.
Not every character needs to be super profound with a deep backstory.
For example, I don’t need more background for Aiden than what has been given in the game to understand is attitude in life (basically feeling intouchable).
But some of the side-characters (and main ones) would benefit from being more fleshed out instead of being just kink/cliche/trope seen in every other corruption game and being transposed to the “realistic world” of awam.
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I would say that the two have totally different intentions. One is business minded while the other just cares about art. DPC thinks of what the market wants, L&P only cares about how to deliver his vision.
I won't say DPC is doing anything wrong. He wants to make a far more financially successful game it seems and adds features that can add value to that.
And I won't say what L&P is doing is wrong either. He wants to deliver a quality product.
DPC misses art quality and compensates with Quantity. L&P misses out on quantity but delivers quality
Because honestly when comparing these two side by side, it is clear as night and day as to why L&P's renders take time.
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That's where you're wrong my friend it won't end like this. Not every route will have sex in this game. Confirmed by the dev. He will not turn this game into a fuckfest. Whether you like it or not the characters she has sex with will be limited.
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Umm.... Who is Sam and Julia's mom if not Amber. It is logical for Sam to have a mother and it ahs to be some character.
Zac was link that brought the two Alyssa and Sophia together. Zac and Dylan's friendship is what caused the two women to meet again and become friends as Sophia handled Aiden attacking Dylan and Zac.
Dragging Alyssa's previous boyfriend into this is bizarre. Like the guy has no role to play at all in the story, certainly we will never see him and you are comparing him to an existing character in the story, Neil I believe initially had more content but since he wasn't liked much his content pretty much got cancelled.
And for all these characters like morello, Janitor, mailman we have no idea on what the purpose is so just assuming their purpose and saying they are not needed is presumptuous. L&P has a story to tell,let him tell it and then pass judgements. Zac and Alyssa down the line are going to become important and similiarly other characters will have a role. Carl in my opinion is definitely going to get heavily involved towards the later half of this story, once Patricia and Sophia get a lot closer.
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I remember another dev saying that the community is at least in part, how you shape them to be. Fans of adult games generally just want the dev to be successful so we can all enjoy steady stream of fapping materials.
A lot of unanswered concerns in this community is what's causing this toxicity IMO. People like this game. That's why they cannot ignore this thread. But there's a worry that this game likely never will reach it's full potential. Arguing over the technicalities of DAZ is not addressing the issue at hand.
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If this wil end not how i wrote then i will only be glad. I`m tired of same things in most of adult games
Hey Viper, story time:
One fine morning after reading some of the comments in here and becoming frustrated with the pace of the game I decided to head on to L&P patreon page to check the progress out.
Of course the progress of the game was slow I saw a post with a car and a couple of comments under it talking about how the car was not of the right scale and how it doesn't look right in that post, while it looked perfectly fine to me and I couldn't find anything wrong with it. Those comments frustrated me more because those fuckwits (pardon my french) wanted him to make certain changes to the car and that's when I realised that I will die and shit my pants (as is the case according to South park) before this fucking game ends, so what I'm trying to say is, his patreons should carry an equal blame on the delay of this game. If his patreons want such quality of art in the game then who are we to argue?
In the 16th playable day the hetero scene will be with Logan or with Logan and friends. There are a lot of reasons: it will be an hetero, long, hard and wild scene. I don't see the postman as wild. The only character that is known as wild in sex is Logan. Sophia making it with her daughter's boy will be a highlight. No body expect it. Logan is in the film in the plane. Logan is always in the polls. Sophia has talked a lot about him and his dong with Ellie and she has been thinking about him. On monday Logan and his friends will come back and it will be the day with more Ellie scenes.
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I feel like you're trying really hard to find the worst renders possible just to shit on BaDIK for whatever reason. I don't get why we're still render-shaming anyway, but when you said that you'd give BaDIK a shot, I didn't expect that all you care about was render quality when there's so much more to an actual good game.OK, BaDik is a big game
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What is this, what does she want to do with this bottle? Ifs he wants to drink out of the bottle, the position's weird.
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Except characters, all is base resolution, no Normal map, No Bump, ....
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Look at this one, no reflexion
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L&P needs more time for his renders, a lot more.
I think DPC uses a lot: Maya/3dsMax/Blender and knows how to work well with it.
Alot of L&P's renders might be more polished in recent updates, but what about the amount of content, gameplay and stuff like minigames, freeroam, a money system, an actual cellphone with many functions such as the game's very own versions of instagram and tinder, the Chick/DIK meter which leads to a bunch of different scenes and story outcomes. The top notch writing combined with a fantastic story that's extremely immersive (to me anyway), hundreds of fluid and really well done animations, a bunch of different soundtracks. The amount of pure content per update compared to L&P's laughable 1/3rd of a playable day with 20mins of gameplay. And let's not even talk about the way these two developers interact with their community, because we all know who'd look pretty pathetic there.
Do you think slightly better render quality alone makes up for all of that? I really do enjoy both games alot, but don't get it mistaken. BaDIK has way more going for it at the moment if you ask me.
The left door in that picture is basically a more spacious closet which isn't exactly uncommon in the US. It's not supposed to be a regular room, so the door is perfectly fine as is.
Oh, and just for good measure;
I love DPC's art!
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Well the point of what Nexer did is to show that L&P is not making up stories when he says he gives a lot of time to his renders and that there goes a lot of work and time to make renders. The renders Nexer chose for L&P too weren't his best, they are in between renders which aren't crucial to the scene.
Atleast I for one never say that BaDik is a bad game. I haven't played it yet but I am aware of a lot of it's features and definitely there has to be a reason why he has 13000 patrons and none of the others do. But when people compare render counts then the quality associated with them should also be properly considered
Nah man, I gone through all of ep7 and with the exception of the characters, the environment is very poor.
Look at this. It's a wall. He never bothered to separate the doors. If L&P did something like this .....
This isn't bought, it's made by him or his team.
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Thanks, forgot to mention that.
Sure, I won't argue that L&P takes more time on his renders, but I still don't think that this equals the amount of additional features and content per update we get from DPC in comparison. Anyway, these comparisons, be it renders or developers is just asking for more drama I guess, so I'll just leave it at that. We already got enough drama on a daily basis even without that. lol
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Yeah, if L&P did something like this I would hardly care at all and we'd maybe get more updates. Let's just hope that I'm still around in 2050 I guess.If L&P did something like this .....
Haha, these were the errors used as an argument by ViperDonkey.
Look at this one, no shadows, one wall has a Bump/Normal map but the others ... nothing
ViperDonkey could do a better render with his 50h DAZ
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And yet for some reason it's the highest rated, most popular VN out there with 10 times more subscribers than L&P has. Anyway, I get it, you're just trolling at this point and you decided to completely ignore the points I made in my previous post, which is fine. Keep 'em coming!Haha, these were the errors used as an argument by ViperDonkey.
Look at this one, no shadows, one wall has a Bump/Normal map but the others ... nothing
ViperDonkey could do a better render with his 50h DAZ