VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Hlextor]

That is exactly what L&P´s yesmen are incapable to understand! AWAM is a good VN, there are a lot of good things to find, but the development speed is beyond slow. Without major changes in that area, AWAM will get it´s neck broken! That is not bad-mouthing, as his bootlickers believe, that is the prediction of what will come, if the development speed stays the same or as there are hints of, gets worse. One or two updates per year with this amount of content is simply not enough.
I have become one of L&P´s greatest critics because of concern over this ultra-slow development speed, because there are signs of calculated slowdown or if it is not a deliberate attempt at milking, this slowness will kill AWAM sooner or later! I am not this old, but I´ve been around for a while and LIFE EXPERIENCE tells me what will happen to AWAM if L&P does not pick up speed.

There he is again with his wisdom to think that L&P will not finish AWAM. Do you know him personally? I suspect not. I certainly don't, but from what I understand he is in his mid/late 20's. Just like we go to work every day, he turns on his PC every day and works on AWAM. And even if he works on it for another 10-15 years... so what? Then he is in his mid 30's! Best age. And as long as he doesn't read your crap here, he can work chilled and with joy. There are only a few interesting contributions to be found here anyway. Yours, by the way, are not among them!

 

[roro]

I don't think much of the comparisons based on images per time period. There are simply too much differences in the quality and also in the number of images created per scene between different games.

The main problem with L&P is clearly in the project planning. After 4 years, just a little more than a third of the planned game days are finished and at the same time the interval L&P needs for the completion of further game days explodes. Even if he would double the number of images created per day, it would still take him forever to finish this game.

Do you really believe L&P will still be working on this game in 20-30 years? There are simply too many side stories, too many characters and too many repetitions of events that have already been told. For example, it's difficult to count the number of events the story follows Sophia through the inner dialogue in which she decides whether or whether not to show her breasts.

Why the hell does Sophia have to have three jobs, one would be quite enough. Why is there not one but three black mail stories in this game? These are the questions that answers would make this project achievable. The point is about L&P being unable to omit unnecessary elements from form his game. He drowns in a completely misunderstood perception of how to make a story seem realistic.

Most normal people don't quit a very rewarding job.
Look at this Graph (least mean squares of his Patreons for each year ~ 15 Jan)

If the trend continues, he gains ~420 new patreons every year. His last documented average $ per patreon was ~8$, that's an addition of 3360$ per month. How many people do you know that earns 14,000$ (before tax and Patreon share) with yearly growth of 3300$ (per month).
Many things can happen in the course of 1 year, let alone 10 years, but I'm pretty sure unless really bad thing happen, from a massive drop of support which is unlikely to a sudden death which is more unlikely if you take his young age into consideration, there's absolutely no way he's dropping the project. I believe it's not only the money he's after and I said it many times, but money is a big motivator here.
And if shit happened and he abandoned the game than it'll be a shame, but life continues.

 

[Scarlet56]

Considering the end of the Sophia/Dylan event, will the next update start again with a shower scene with Nathalie? I
have nothing against shower scenes but it would start to do a lot if that was it.

For the next 2nd side job event, I see Sophia teaching the apostles how to put on a condom and why not, one of the apostles who will tell her that he tried to bring out the white thing but he didn't succeed.
You can guess the rest...

 

[dolfe67]

Less and less people stay more than 10 years at the same job, especially in the dev department. The future will tell but I'm sceptical this project will see its end. Let's enjoy it in the meantime

 

[Alley_Cat]

Update 0.150
(Afternoon)
1) Nathalie
2) Dylan/Ellie (very small side event)
3) A little bonus storyline with Sophia (with interesting options for later)
(Evening)
4) Sam

Plus the Cathy event, which will likely be after the Sam event, considering it's slated to be around 9 - 10pm

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At the rate L&P is able to develop the game, none of the stories will make it to the end, because L&P would need decades. I think, L&P sells his supporters for fools. He promises everyone his kink, knowing that none of them will ever be completed.

How about if L&P does a poll to find out which are the most popular storylines and then delivers the remaining stories later via DLC. This would at least halfway ensure that at a few stories are actually finished.

I believe that is kinda implied by the Favourite Character poll

Less and less people stay more than 10 years at the same job, especially in the dev department. The future will tell but I'm sceptical this project will see its end. Let's enjoy it in the meantime

Considering Ellie apparently disappears on playable day 22 (the information we have on the number of Ellie events stops on playable day 21), I'll likely will have lost interest in the game at this point, if I haven't already. And since playable day 19 might well be at the 10 year mark, it might well be a case of Sophia dicking someone then the game gets abandoned.

But hopefully L&P will get the help he needs and it wont come to this, guess we'll just wait and see.

 

[AntuanShotaLover]

I would like, to see continue the relationship between Sophia and Sam.

 

[Bane71]

People who try to pass themselves off as particularly smart never cease to amaze me with their undisguised stupidity.
Some are trying to cover up their weakness and uncontrollable desire to quickly find out the continuation of the AWAM history with care and worries about the positive end of the AWAM creation. This is so funny!
The main feature that sets these people apart from all others is their confidence that they are smarter than everyone else.
These people are so envious, angry and weak that they cannot help but speak out about milking, the wrong organization of the production process at the L&P, and so on and so forth.
But the funny thing is that it lasts more than one year. I have no doubt that such comments will accompany AWAM all the way through its creation.
So, I wish you health and strength to continue crying and endless complaints!

 

[Turret]

There he is again with his wisdom to think that L&P will not finish AWAM. Do you know him personally? I suspect not. I certainly don't, but from what I understand he is in his mid/late 20's. Just like we go to work every day, he turns on his PC every day and works on AWAM. And even if he works on it for another 10-15 years... so what? Then he is in his mid 30's! Best age. And as long as he doesn't read your crap here, he can work chilled and with joy. There are only a few interesting contributions to be found here anyway. Yours, by the way, are not among them!

Hit dogs bark loudly! You are exactly the type of yesman I wrote about. Do you know how often I red about the c- less useful stuff you wrote in my life? Quite often! The same "he/she is young, best age, what does it matter that" BS you wrote. The number of times that came true I can count on one hand and I don´t need all the fingers for it! When you grow up one day you will see that there are patterns to life, patterns which are very rarely turned upside down.
I mentioned before that I am a hobby writer, I know the desire to create very well myself! This flame burns brightly in L&P, but I do not see that it burns in the pattern you need to keep going at it for over a decade continiously! One example, he took off for a beauty OP, despite being behind his own stated schedule.
There are points, capstones or whatever you want to call it to reach in a certain timeframe if you want to finish a project in one go! While there is a certain variance due to personailty of the creator and the circumstances, it is not 10-15 years! Even the all-time Greatest do/did not work like that! Even they completely shelved great projects for various reasons or returned AFTER LENGTHY ABSENCE to finish it years later!

So shelf your selfrightous indignation and grow up! In a couple of years the latest you will see I was right on this! L&P´s window of time to correct the course of AWAM is near closing.

 

[SerBelG]

Does anyone have 0.130 for mac?

 

[SpikeZg]

that Cathy chick is hot AF
Liam should def hit that

 

[Deleted member 1023239]

Four years (FOUR) and wife's pussy is still unused. I say, at least a blowjob, or getting a lick, but nothing ...

she already had 4 unsatisfying sex with liam on good wife route, cunnilingus doesn't count

 

[dolfe67]

I like the DLC strategy and L&P seemed to accommodate the idea based on recent update.

What does mean the DLC strategy ? a second game about a spin-off of the main game ?

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I like the DLC strategy and L&P seemed to accommodate the idea based on recent update.

I like it too, the problem is when ... will it release the dlc at the end of the game? (so we'll never see them) or will it stop the game development to do the DLC? either way it will take decades

 

[Alley_Cat]

that Cathy chick is hot AF
Liam should def hit that

So in 115 it was Nathalie, and in 130 seems it's Cathy. Is L&P setting Liam up with all the women? Possibly trying to ramp up interest in the GW route.

she already had 4 unsatisfying sex with liam on good wife route, cunnilingus doesn't count

Cunnilinguistics counts. Sophia prefers it. Little Precious Jules has almost converted both Parker women just with her tongue. Alyssa got Sophia wet twice with just her fingers.

Another possibility would be that some fan artist(s) make a fan game to finish the story on their terms. I thought this idea was yours.

Not my idea, just a proponent of fan art that can be added to the game.

 

[Scarlet56]

that Cathy chick is hot AF
Liam should def hit that

Seeing Cathy hitting Liam like that is surprising but it's interesting.
In my opinion, the request later in the evening will not be innocent

 

[XaGnard]

Most normal people don't quit a very rewarding job.
Look at this Graph (least mean square of his Patreons for each year ~ 15 Jan)
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If the trend continues, he gains ~420 new patreons every year. His last documented average $ per patreon was ~8$, that's an addition of 3360$ per month. How many people do you know that earns 14,000$ (before tax and Patreon share) with yearly growth of 3300$ (per month).
Many things can happen in the course of 1 year, let alone 10 years, but I'm pretty sure unless really bad thing happen, from a massive drop of support which is unlikely to a sudden death which is more unlikely if you take his young age into consideration, there's absolutely no way he's dropping the project. I believe it's not only the money he's after and I said it many times, but money is a big motivator here.
And if shit happened and he abandoned the game than it'll be a shame, but life continues.

Yes, L&P now has so many side stories that there is something for everyone taste.

Only, why the hell do you think that a very high number of patreons means this game will be finished. Just take a look at "Milf City" as an extrem example. The developer has still much more support than L&P and still nothing is going forward.

That is one of the major issues with this type of funding. People sell dreams and hope instead of real projects. Keep in mind, In addition to financing, the project goal must also be achievable.

So, Just, show a graph of games in this forum that are actually finished with more than 20 years of development compared to the games that were simply canceled.

 

[hax]

4-4 - before kids scene
4-6 for extra dylan mom scene

 

[hmc15]

it was an important event sophie watch in a sexual way her son!!!(if you win the fight)

How do you even get it to happen? Do ye have a save ?

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

How do you even get it to happen? Do ye have a save ?

post before u

 

[Sabertooth__]

From the beginning we have Sam and Dylan who are minors cent percent. And then again if you don't like a kink you don't need to play it ofcourse.

For me as I said before I don't care for minors as long as the minor is not being exploited. The whole reason why sex with a minor is a redline is because the adults can take advantage of them.

The minor is more susceptible to being coerced since they are physically and mentally weaker. Hence forth adults should absolutely not engage in a relationship like that but if the weak is the one dictating the terms it's fine in my eyes.
Also since it's not actual people engaging in it but mere drawings it does not harm anybody providing a safe environment for people with the kink to experience without guilt.

Also I totally respect that you don't like it. There are things I don't like too and that's just how it is