VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.200] [Lust & Passion]

[lockerxx]

LAST TIME I PLAYED WHEN THE KID WAS ZIPPING HIS MOTHER DRESS, NOW CAN HE FUCK HIS MOTHER?

nope
i didnt have that problem with that i got a lot of points for the ellie scene i used a super firty sophia:winkytongue:.but yes who is only playing a lesbian sophia is super annoying.

 

[BigBabs69]

I agree that u shouldn't need so many filthy points for lesbian points,but at the same time mc would have to be pretty ''open minded'' to not only say that the too tight lingerie was okay for her to be wearing but also to look at her daughter in a sexual way and not feel weird about it.but i still think needing points that you get from flirting and what not with guys ruins the lesbian path a tad bit,but console commands come in clutch

 

[torkenstiem]

Cheating != filthy. Like I said in my previous post, this is poor game design...

I see. It just sounded to me like what you were saying is, the lesbian path shouldn't be considered filthy, but only having sex with men should be.

 

[rosmaster]

nope
i didnt have that problem with that i got a lot of points for the ellie scene i used a super firty sophia:winkytongue:.but yes who is only playing a lesbian sophia is super annoying.

OK
TY
ILL PLAY AGAIN WHEN HE CAN FUCK UP THE MIFL

 

[dima1986]

The author of the game L&P on Patreon wrote a comment - Thx again! I'm very glad that there are people who like what I'm doing. But it was all just the beginning. The next update (playable day 7) is the start of the game becoming more precise with some storylines and also becoming more interesting.

 

[maybes4]

He should give his patron a release date also some picture before each update.It will increase his money

 

[Twerkingbaby's]

the game had potential.

 

[kymico]

Welp, this update left to be desired. Again.

The Pros

- Established a cheating/blackmail route with son's teacher.
- Beautiful renders.
- Last update had less renders, moved things along. Keep this up.

The Cons

- Convoluted. So many story lines/characters going on with painfully slow progress.
- English needs work.
- Constant error scripts.
- How many lesbian routes are we talking about here? Daughter? Sister? Babysitter? Soccer mom?
- Nearly 3 GIGs already and so far one blowjob, if you're on the good wife route?
- On the filthy route, you get to be kissed on the cheek. Skank.
- MC is very prude and has a marriage with a dead bedroom.

I removed my patronage 2 months ago now and after playing the 4th and 5th updates I won't be finding myself backing this again anytime soon.

Dev has the option of creating this at his own pace. That's fine for him but not for me. Won't be milked. I sincerely feel this game will be draaaagging along with short updates every month or two hindered by the ridiculously prudish MC.

 

[Lust&Passion]

So, contrary to my previous posts, I wanted to say that I'm really enjoying this game, and I LOVE where it *seems* to be going (if the execution is right, this could be even better than Good Girl Gone Bad). I just have one small criticism about the story itself. I personally dislike the fact that

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To me, this greatly cheapens the thrill of being "filthy" while playing as Sophia. A big part of the whole "cheating kink" is the aspect of betrayal- betraying someone whom trusts you wholeheartedly and is devoted to you. In fact, that's like 99% of the thrill of cheating. So the idea of what I mentioned before is, well... it makes it far less exciting, imo. It sort of evens the playing field, and I don't really think there's that many people who are actually into the whole "revenge fucking" thing.

I'm the biggest advocate for creators creating without external influence, however... so you do you devs. This is just my own personal take on it all, and if I was writing this (which I'm obviously not), Liam would absolutely be a genuine good one and head over heels for Sophia. Anyway, love the game, keep up the good work.

(One last thing, and this isn't a criticism but rather, well... an observation. Alyssa says that she had her son, who looks visibly at the very least between 15-18 years old, when she was 15. But right before that she says "I'm a little over 21." Assuming by "a little over 21" she means like 21 and a half, that would make her son only about 6 years old. Even if she was like 25, her son would only be 10. I know this is just a game but uh... maths?)

Alyssa is definitely over 30! I'm translating the game from GER to ENG and some things you can't translate with the same sense 1:1. In German you'd say ironically "Naja, ich bin schon etwas älter als 21!" with an emphasis on "schon". But the word "schon" is not really existing in English in such a context. There's a technical term for such an ironical verbal understatement of something what is usually meant totally different, but I can't remember now! Generally women don't like telling their real age so I didn't want to reveal it because of that and also like a stylistic device. I thought that if the young characters should be between 16 and 18 you would guess that she has to be at least 32! I got also a native speaker who's editing the text. He could also express some things simplified, what can lose the sense of what I usually meant. I changed it and Alyssa says now "I'm significantly older than 21".

but includes a big error! she drove the car and talked with hubby about subway incident, but she wasn't at all at subway. Why the dev did't checked this?!

This is why it's called "beta"! If you are a one man team with a lot of time pressure, you can very easy overlook something. But it's already corrected with a quick additional conditional statement.

The English grammar in this latest update is adorable but really bad and distracting. Is that something that will be fixed with time or is it permanent? I noticed that the grammar was actually pretty decent for the first 10 days or so, then gradually downhill from there.

If there's no other options for you guys I might be willing to offer my services to revise the script for the latest chapter. Just let me know.

I already got a native speaker who's editing it afterwards. That's why the first release is always a Beta Version!

Okay, I generally liked this update. I only really have two criticisms with it, and one of them is admittedly a personal issue rather than a technical one, and it's an extension of the main problem I had with the last update: I don't care about the old men stuff. But I guess what's done is done and that's not going away.

The second problem is actually one I think that L&P needs to sort out because it's detrimental to the gameplay I feel and something I was worried was going to happen. And that is...

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This was a problem I was worried about happening already when I saw the lack of Filthy points a lesbian-only playthrough netted, and then became increasingly concerned about when the requirement for watching the porn was too high and also robbed lesbian-route players of a small Ellie scene. Simple put, I think this was poor game design. I get what it's going for and why there are two different stats, but it's basically cutting players out of pivotal and rewarding scenes by playing a certain way. They can't get the scenes with the characters they are going for because the system in play forces them to do a bunch of stuff that's counter-intuitive to this goal in order to attain the required points. And it's especially stupid when you've got a separate stat designed specifically for such encounters (i.e. Lesbian Temptation) but it doesn't even use it in the scenario. This type of stuff is make-or-break for me with a game.

Yes, I noticed that too. I reduced the filthy points for all scenes to 55% of the total amount. And in that scene with Ellie in the fitting room you can get the lesbian point independently to the filthy stat now.


About Dylan's teacher: he was planned to be an antagonist and he's also acting like this. And the test Dylan failed is not just some random unimportant test! If he gets a very bad mark in history he won't get the chance to go to college. So the teacher is a powerful obstacle (how powerful remains to be seen) on Dylan's way to college. He knows about it now and wants to take advantage of it! The teacher's role was mainly included for a very special fetish scene at the end of the game! So the question on the way there will be, how important is Dylan's college education for Sophia and will there be a chance to trick this asshole somehow. But he could also be advantageous in some way for Dylan. But again: how important will this be for Sophia. She can always refuse him. But I'm still thinking about some parts of this storyline.

And I also read about Liam's cheating on his wife. The scene in the boutique at Day 2 is probably the reason for that suspicion. Explanation: At first, I wanted to develop this game with the alternation of playing the day with Sophia and then with Liam. I wrote also an own story for Liam. That scene should overlap and being explained more precise in Liam's day! But because it would be just unrealistic for one developer to manage two MC storylines in such an already ambitious project, I decided after day 2 to only focus on the wife's story. So Liam isn't cheating on her. He's just working very hard!

And I already informed everyone long before on my Patreon site what this update will be about and that the game starts being more precise at playable day 7, for what the development starts now! If people can't hit on the idea to read a free post on my Patreon site with all the information about the current update and then complaining, well...

 

[Sum FΑggott]

what's with the frickin errors? had like more than 5 in the last update alone, and saw that i missed some content when ignoring the error. inb4 someone says to start a new game, no i'm not gonna restart the game for the 10th time, and no i'm not gonna save to another 50 save slots. So can anyone provide me with a clean save file at the end of version 0.04 (filthy wife, subway molested,max points with the other characters) just to see what i missed?

p.s. sorry for the rant

 

[ChadOchocinco]

I get people complaining that they're giving money and not seeing much by way of ROI. As much as I like the game so far, if I were paying money for this, I'd want more of a pay off so far. I get pulling their patronage - why throw money at something you're not satisfied with.

I don't get people wanting to knock this game when they presumably haven't paid a cent for it, never intend to, and frankly, aren't interested in what L&P is trying to do. Sure, it's a slow build. It's still a good story, it's setting up for a lot of play through, and when it comes to getting what you do want out of the game, I suspect it's going to be top notch as well.

I'm just glad L&P took the feedback from the initial release when this was on RPGM and scrapped that and shifted to Renpy.

 

[dima1986]

And I already informed everyone long before on my Patreon site what this update will be about and that the game starts being more precise at playable day 7, for what the development starts now! If people can't hit on the idea to read a free post on my Patreon site with all the information about the current update and then complaining, well...

Tell me please. How long do you expect to make 0.06? When should we wait for him?
The game is super. We are waiting for the lines of Dylan and Ellie.:happyblush

 

[Benn Swagger]

@Lust&Passion
Will you spent your monthly donation to a coders ?
That way you can focus on animation, posing & script writing.

You keep introducing new characters, smh ... what is your project deadline ? 1, 2 or 10 years ? :FeelsGoodMan:
Please minimize your work hours, but maximize impact. Time to delegate ! Promote generals, Fuhrer !

 

[SrRK]

Alyssa is definitely over 30! I'm translating the game from GER to ENG and some things you can't translate with the same sense 1:1. In German you'd say ironically "Naja, ich bin schon etwas älter als 21!" with an emphasis on "schon". But the word "schon" is not really existing in English in such a context. There's a technical term for such an ironical verbal understatement of something what is usually meant totally different, but I can't remember now! Generally women don't like telling their real age so I didn't want to reveal it because of that and also like a stylistic device. I thought that if the young characters should be between 16 and 18 you would guess that she has to be at least 32! I got also a native speaker who's editing the text. He could also express some things simplified, what can lose the sense of what I usually meant. I changed it and Alyssa says now "I'm significantly older than 21".


This is why it's called "beta"! If you are a one man team with a lot of time pressure, you can very easy overlook something. But it's already corrected with a quick additional conditional statement.

I already got a native speaker who's editing it afterwards. That's why the first release is always a Beta Version!



Yes, I noticed that too. I reduced the filthy points for all scenes to 55% of the total amount. And in that scene with Ellie in the fitting room you can get the lesbian point independently to the filthy stat now.


About Dylan's teacher: he was planned to be an antagonist and he's also acting like this. And the test Dylan failed is not just some random unimportant test! If he gets a very bad mark in history he won't get the chance to go to college. So the teacher is a powerful obstacle (how powerful remains to be seen) on Dylan's way to college. He knows about it now and wants to take advantage of it! The teacher's role was mainly included for a very special fetish scene at the end of the game! So the question on the way there will be, how important is Dylan's college education for Sophia and will there be a chance to trick this asshole somehow. But he could also be advantageous in some way for Dylan. But again: how important will this be for Sophia. She can always refuse him. But I'm still thinking about some parts of this storyline.

And I also read about Liam's cheating on his wife. The scene in the boutique at Day 2 is probably the reason for that suspicion. Explanation: At first, I wanted to develop this game with the alternation of playing the day with Sophia and then with Liam. I wrote also an own story for Liam. That scene should overlap and being explained more precise in Liam's day! But because it would be just unrealistic for one developer to manage two MC storylines in such an already ambitious project, I decided after day 2 to only focus on the wife's story. So Liam isn't cheating on her. He's just working very hard!

And I already informed everyone long before on my Patreon site what this update will be about and that the game starts being more precise at playable day 7, for what the development starts now! If people can't hit on the idea to read a free post on my Patreon site with all the information about the current update and then complaining, well...

Thanks for addressing the cheating thing. That was really bugging me. Otherwise, you've got a phenomenal game going here, and we appreciate ya! You've actually inspired me to write my own script.

 

[Lust&Passion]

what's with the frickin errors? had like more than 5 in the last update alone, and saw that i missed some content when ignoring the error. inb4 someone says to start a new game, no i'm not gonna restart the game for the 10th time, and no i'm not gonna save to another 50 save slots. So can anyone provide me with a clean save file at the end of version 0.04 (filthy wife, subway molested,max points with the other characters) just to see what i missed?

p.s. sorry for the rant

I can understand that it's annoying. I've updated renpy to the newest version now. And someone on this site helped me with a code for these errors which are emerging because renpy (last version) couldn't recognize new variables with old savegames. So, to start the game from the beginning and quickly skip though it wouldn't be a mistake for the next release. If people will still get the same errors I'll include savegames for every new update.

Tell me please. How long do you expect to make 0.06? When should we wait for him?
The game is super. We are waiting for the lines of Dylan and Ellie.:happyblush

I think I will divide them in two parts again (0.055 and 0.06). But I'm not sure now. It depends on how long I'll need for the first half of the events of the day. Generally it's very difficult to tell in advance how long the next update will be. Last update I wanted to have less than 100 renders but at the end there have been 200. So, I'm just developing the scenes and make them as long as necessary. But to bring out updates quicker they can't be very long. 0.055 will have the Dylan and Ellie scene (and also some other very small events). 0.06 would deal with other characters.

@Lust&Passion
Will you spent your monthly donation to a coders ?
That way you can focus on animation, posing & script writing.

You keep introducing new characters, smh ... what is your project deadline ? 1, 2 or 10 years ? :FeelsGoodMan:
Please minimize your work hours, but maximize impact. Time to delegate ! Promote generals, Fuhrer !

Actually the last update didn't have one new character! And new characters doesn't mean huge storylines with them. They just can be important for one special scene later.
I definitely won't need 10 years for it! But it'd definitely need at least 2-3 more years to finish it. It's very difficult to say now but I'm already trying my best to reduce render quantity and make it more efficient.

 

[farrah]

I definitely won't need 10 years for it! But it'd definitely need at least 2-3 more years to finish it. It's very difficult to say now but I'm already trying my best to reduce render quantity and make it more efficient.

2-3 years for such a good game, I'm ready to wait. Please not abandoned

 

[dima1986]

I think I will divide them in two parts again (0.055 and 0.06). But I'm not sure now. It depends on how long I'll need for the first half of the events of the day. Generally it's very difficult to tell in advance how long the next update will be. Last update I wanted to have less than 100 renders but at the end there have been 200. So, I'm just developing the scenes and make them as long as necessary. But to bring out updates quicker they can't be very long. 0.055 will have the Dylan and Ellie scene (and also some other very small events). 0.06 would deal with other characters.

Luxuriously. Try to make a line between Sophia and Dylan as far as possible. And then I began to be afraid that you have deprived him of attention. Line Dilin and Sofia, Sofia and Ally, Dylan and Ellie are the most piquant and expected.

 

[RustyV]

One thing that I don't get is why is the mother is being more sexual now after the family moved? It's like she is under some kind of external influence that is causing her to change her view of her sexuality.

The renderings are great and I like the overall story.
The daughter is hot. I won't have any objections to more scenes with her and her dance class friends.

 

[ShocLite12]

I found an issue. If you avoided the taking the subway route which led to the men trying to have their way with Sophia, it still covers it in the latest update.

 

[DeadMan2]

So much of Lesbian Contents. :noexpression: