VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Sadowdark]

Yes, that's the explanation we hear from Aiden. But I'm telling you about my impression. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seemed to be related to Sophia. At least Aiden definitely wanted Sophia to see them.

Tell me if the rape was on the same day as the fourth job.? Your theory is interesting.If the rape was on the same day as the fourth job. And Aiden's explanation about the rape, that Aiden had a debt to Dre and that Jen paid Dre's debt might be a lie, but it's really about revenge. For punching Sophia Dre in the face and raping Jen, it was supposed to be recompense for Dre so he could forget about getting revenge on Sophia.

 

[Bane71]

I was talking more about how he is making promises like a politician.
And not fulfiling any.
Like how many times he made a promise to speed up the updates?Or if he reach a certain goal he will hire help?
I am reading a book and after certain page, instantly thought of L&P.
“Every time I think you’ve reached the limits of arrogance, you show me new heights.
Truly, your egotism is like the Universe—ever expanding.”

Sorry, I didn't write to you.

 

[Bane71]

Tell me if the rape was on the same day as the fourth job. Your theory is interesting

Yes, it was on the same day, in between classes. Sophia saw that Aiden and the girl and Andre were going somewhere and she followed them. Aiden saw her, but Andre and Aiden's girlfriend didn't see Sophia.
Why do I think Aiden gave his girlfriend to Andre? Because Andre, after Sophia hit him, threatened her that Dylan would get hurt. Sophia reproached Aiden with the fact that he promised her that if she completed his task, Dylan would not suffer.
Therefore, I assume that Aiden could have asked Andre not to create problems for Dylan and for this he is ready to compensate him. That is, Aiden's girlfriend was compensation for the fact that Sophia hit Andre during class in front of the whole class.

 

[Sadowdark]

Yes, it was on the same day, in between classes. Sophia saw that Aiden and the girl and Andre were going somewhere and she followed them. Aiden saw her, but Andre and Aiden's girlfriend didn't see Sophia.
Why do I think Aiden gave his girlfriend to Andre? Because Andre, after Sophia hit him, threatened her that Dylan would get hurt. Sophia reproached Aiden with the fact that he promised her that if she completed his task, Dylan would not suffer.
Therefore, I assume that Aiden could have asked Andre not to create problems for Dylan and for this he is ready to compensate him. That is, Aiden's girlfriend was compensation for the fact that Sophia hit Andre during class in front of the whole class.

And the debt story was a lie to Jen.So first there had to be the fourth task and then the rape.

 

[lockerxx]

i send a mail to L&P:

big fan of your game i got this questions:
1-will sophie got lesbian content With Claire?i want to see more of that milf
2-chirstine will become girlfriend of Dylan?is she another romance option for him
3-any chance of the sexy co-workers of Liam to return to the game and have a big rol?
4-any chance of another Sophie/Ellie/Julia in the Future?and a Patricia/Ellie
5-in the Case of Natalie and Vicky both have Boyfriends can both girls have a lesbian scene with Sophie first.specially Vicky who looks she comes with her boyfriend when Natalie it look we got options.
6-will Leah join the class with his Brothers?in the sex education class

Thanks for your answers.

1. No
2. No
3. No
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Maybe
dammit no more Lesbian content with Claire.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Could anyone tell me if this update continues the pure lesbian route?

Only a little. Next lesbian event wont be for about another year.

i send a mail to L&P:

big fan of your game i got this questions:
1-will sophie got lesbian content With Claire?i want to see more of that milf
2-chirstine will become girlfriend of Dylan?is she another romance option for him
3-any chance of the sexy co-workers of Liam to return to the game and have a big rol?
4-any chance of another Sophie/Ellie/Julia in the Future?and a Patricia/Ellie
5-in the Case of Natalie and Vicky both have Boyfriends can both girls have a lesbian scene with Sophie first.specially Vicky who looks she comes with her boyfriend when Natalie it look we got options.
6-will Leah join the class with his Brothers?in the sex education class

Thanks for your answers.

1. No
2. No
3. No
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Maybe
dammit no more Lesbian content with Claire.

Patricia/Ellie might be a thing? Cool. Shame it's going to be years away

 

[blackfoxeyesred]

I was e expecting something more... you know hotter, it was to basic, to cold, nothing exciting happened, I feel bored. What a waste of work for just an ice cream between horny Dylan and the hot Marie with a boring chat, but the worst happened at Claire's salon it kills me, looks like L&P is losing his touch, where is the creativity? C'mon L&P you can do better, hope next update can be better, it is my opinion.

 

[ohwonders]

5784 pages of comments..? Even if a game is lackluster on the sex part, why so much uproar? You’d think after a while people would just stop giving the game attention, yet it still pops up on the recent acitivity feed seemingly non stop

 

[lockerxx]

Only a little. Next lesbian event wont be for about another year.

Patricia/Ellie might be a thing? Cool. Shame it's going to be years away

cool Sophie/Natalie and a Sophie/Vicky.... in 2032

 

[Morgan12]

Imo this game has the hottest MILF and for some reason the devs want to expand the MC to Dylan, which I don't mind but I was hoping for more morning dressing and interaction with Sophia.
Last update for me, was a step back and now Sophia not Wear a bra, which I applaud.
Just need more groping or something....we shall see in April!!!

 

[Mamonetti]

the one with the bikini choices and after?
how is the save references arranged?

Ok, I see what you mean. The first save is #1, so if you load it, you'll get to the point where #1 continues which is in #2 (in the third row of each table you can see where each save comes from, so in the second table you can see #1 as starting point, which means there is where you'll start if you load the first save). In this case this means loading the first save you'll be right before Sophia shows her breasts to Dylan.

In a similar way, if you load the third save of the first tab (#3A), you can see it comes from the end of #2 and this is the moment when Sophia asks Dylan whether Sam can come too or not.

To summarize, you're always 1 step behind or at least that was the idea I had, although I may have messed things up somewhere, I know

Regards

 

[derek1957]

And the debt story was a lie to Jen.So first there had to be the fourth task and then the rape.

I’m forgetting stuff already, but yes, Jennifer's rape was during the break RIGHT after Sophia slapped Andre for groping her butt. And after the class and before the break is when Andre threatened Dylan, and Aiden told Andre to quit whining and that Sophia had completed her task as agreed so Dylan was safe. And then Aiden told Sophia to come to the alley after school.

So Aiden could have been lying to Jennifer about the bet with Andre, not wanting to divulge to her that they were blackmailing their teacher too. But I don’t recall anything to really infer that in the game.

In my mind, it’s also possible that Aiden quickly came up with the idea of Sophia coming over to the alley in order to appease Andre, at least partly. Depending on the player’s choice, Andre either got a front row center view of Sophia’s naked jiggling breasts for the first time; or he got carte blanche to play with a restrained Sophia’s bare butt while he was in her face taunting her, as she was getting both of her braless breasts fondled by other gang members. Perhaps either of those options were compensation to Andre, but it’s not stated anywhere in the game that I’m aware of.

 

[palmtrees89]

And the debt story was a lie to Jen.So first there had to be the fourth task and then the rape.

Was all in the first update of PD13 we're currently on. Version 0.160, first update of the day, first animations. Aiden's 4th task in class and Jenn's rape right after.

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

5784 pages of comments..? Even if a game is lackluster on the sex part, why so much uproar? You’d think after a while people would just stop giving the game attention, yet it still pops up on the recent acitivity feed seemingly non stop

Yet here you are giving it attention

 

[typicallord]

I think most of us will be dead by the time this game is completed

 

[SophiaMelinda]

Next update will come in May I'm guessing...

 

[ancienregimele]

Yes, it was on the same day, in between classes. Sophia saw that Aiden and the girl and Andre were going somewhere and she followed them. Aiden saw her, but Andre and Aiden's girlfriend didn't see Sophia.
Why do I think Aiden gave his girlfriend to Andre? Because Andre, after Sophia hit him, threatened her that Dylan would get hurt. Sophia reproached Aiden with the fact that he promised her that if she completed his task, Dylan would not suffer.
Therefore, I assume that Aiden could have asked Andre not to create problems for Dylan and for this he is ready to compensate him. That is, Aiden's girlfriend was compensation for the fact that Sophia hit Andre during class in front of the whole class.

That suggests Aiden needs to placate Andre. This untouchable gang leader needs to compensate his sidekick by giving him the use of his girlfriend so that his deal is still on & runs smoothly? No, not plausible. Paying a gambling debt is more believable & demonstrates his power over 2 people close to him.

 

[HappyNuts]

He will never finish this game. He will keep throwing out a few small lures. Especially when patrons turn away and less money comes in. The production time is crazy. We are still at version 0.180. It will still be tens of years before version 1.0 is released. In gaming, that would be the longest production time for a game ever. Although this game has nice pictures, but otherwise it's just a VN with a few decisions. He acts like he creates the greatest game of all time. However, he does not have to create a game engine, just render images and use a ready-made engine. His paying followers defend the bullshit too. With the budget, he could afford several people to render faster. The whole process could easily be speeded up. Without excuses.

The only goal here is to make much money for a long time period for a good private Lifestyle.

 

[ancienregimele]

It's hilarious how people defend dev by terming the game as "erotica", "Slow burn", "realistic" etc. No wonder L&P is such a dick,afterall he has such massive balls on this forum to defend his view on his behalf. And wtf is this arguement that you've not paid for the game so you don't get to have an opinion. Patrons are supporting this game cuz they love it and genuinely want to support, many of us here can't or don't want to because of the pathetic developement, doesn't mean we don't love this game. It clearly has great potential but is being milked by dev then what's wrong with calling it out? Many of his patrons came from here so what's so wrong if people criticise him? Maybe he should take notes and try to do better.

Erotica & slow burn were amongst the attractions when I started playing this in 2018. They are rare in a 3D game context & therefore all the more welcome to those, like me, who began to get bored with senseless porn years ago. Much of it is just rubbish. It's not worth time, effort or cash.

Wishing for these elements to continue doesn't constitute a defence of the Dev & given the pace of development he's chosen, I'd suggest it's far from hilarious. As for realism, that was ditched years ago. There was no announcement but it just evaporated gradually like morning dew.

Even those defending the situation aren't necessarily pleased with how AWAM has continuously slowed down for several years.

Things will never change so long as there is a steady income stream on Patreon. Patrons rightly contend that without their support there would be no game to complain about. Presumably a majority are happy with AWAM being due to finish in the 2050s? If each event is to take 2 & 2 thirds of a month to complete, as planned for the next update, even the 2050s might be too optimistic.

 

[Bane71]

And the debt story was a lie to Jen.So first there had to be the fourth task and then the rape.

Absolutely right! That's exactly what happened. Andre touched Sophia's ass after she completed Aiden's 4th task. Then he fucked Jane.
That Jane was compensation for Andre is my guess. But this is evidenced to me by the fact that Aiden had the task of calming Andre so that he would not fulfill his threats against Dylan.

I’m forgetting stuff already, but yes, Jennifer's rape was during the break RIGHT after Sophia slapped Andre for groping her butt. And after the class and before the break is when Andre threatened Dylan, and Aiden told Andre to quit whining and that Sophia had completed her task as agreed so Dylan was safe. And then Aiden told Sophia to come to the alley after school.

So Aiden could have been lying to Jennifer about the bet with Andre, not wanting to divulge to her that they were blackmailing their teacher too. But I don’t recall anything to really infer that in the game.

In my mind, it’s also possible that Aiden quickly came up with the idea of Sophia coming over to the alley in order to appease Andre, at least partly. Depending on the player’s choice, Andre either got a front row center view of Sophia’s naked jiggling breasts for the first time; or he got carte blanche to play with a restrained Sophia’s bare butt while he was in her face taunting her, as she was getting both of her braless breasts fondled by other gang members. Perhaps either of those options were compensation to Andre, but it’s not stated anywhere in the game that I’m aware of.

Yes, you're right, that's exactly what happened. That's why I assume Jane was compensation for Andre to calm him down. Including the arrival of Sophia in the lair of the bandits.
If we had the text of what Aiden said to Sophia to convince her to come to the bandits' lair in a sexy outfit, maybe we now had proof that I was right or wrong.

That suggests Aiden needs to placate Andre. This untouchable gang leader needs to compensate his sidekick by giving him the use of his girlfriend so that his deal is still on & runs smoothly? No, not plausible. Paying a gambling debt is more believable & demonstrates his power over 2 people close to him.

Paying off the gaming debt really sounds plausible for Jane! Aiden can't tell his girlfriend that she should have sex with Andre because he wouldn't disrupt Aiden's plans to blackmail the teacher. That's something Aiden really couldn't do.
ia in order to convince her to come to the bandits' lair in a sexy outfit, then we would probably have confirmation of my dogatka or its refutation.
But in any case, this is just my guess and we have no confirmation of it. Perhaps in the future we will learn more about this and we will understand if I am wrong or I turned out to be right.