- Aug 23, 2020
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I find that the scaling of props in Daz is wildly inconsistent.
- Thread starter CobraSGT
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- Jul 20, 2017
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wildly inconsistent as most things in Daz are
- Jan 3, 2022
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Just clarify people in this thread, I'm sure it's not the effect of DOF or denoise, it's a setting in the surface that makes it look like that and comes by default on those desk legs. You need to change it in order to show up correctly.
- Oct 22, 2017
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Lol, it's always funny to read comments here from people with obviously limited understanding and knowledge both of art programs and art in general, trying to discuss detailed stuff about it like experts. It's a little bit like watching a monkey trying to solve tricky mathematical problems 
I think those special persons here know who I'm talking about
Just for fun I'll tell you quickly what's the real deal.
The table leg is not my mistake nor an artistic mistake in general. And I really need to laugh reading a comment of a well known troll postulating it's because of the "Daz denoiser"! How the heck a denoiser should give such an effect??? Yes, the Daz denoiser is horrible but it doesn't matter how horrible it is, it can't cause such an effect just on the table leg part of the image! I never use the denoiser because it flattens the textures. And even in case the denoiser would have caused this leg thing, the entire image would be blurry which is not the case!
That the leg looks like this is because the creator of that asset decided to give it a more "glassy look" by reducing the opacity. I didn't even notice anything wrong with it and also left it like this "glassy". My main focus was also more on stuff above it.
I re-rendered this scene and here you can see the difference with opacity low and full:
Low opacity table leg:
Full opacity table leg:
OK, maybe this looks really better. I also edited some minor stuff, so thanks for the hint with it anyway.
Furthermore, for those who complain about my art is getting worse, probably just because they either have nothing else to do in their life or just out of fun keep digging out ridiculous details to keep bullshitting on my game.
Here's the difference between the standard Daz Studio render, which is already edited a lot in the program, taking the most out of it:
And here's the edited and enhanced version, giving it a more cinematic look, which also takes a lot of steps in PS:
And here's the final upscaled and corrected version:
The sharpness in direct comparison:
And here the direct comparison between the Daz standard render, which is already practically the best you can do with the program, and the final result which will be used in the game:
See, how many steps are necessary to make it look like the final result? So, if this art quality isn't good enough, I'd like to see something better! Especially from the "fan art" which some people praise here so much being better! And this is not even the most demanding render of the update, btw!
I think those special persons here know who I'm talking about Just for fun I'll tell you quickly what's the real deal.
The table leg is not my mistake nor an artistic mistake in general. And I really need to laugh reading a comment of a well known troll postulating it's because of the "Daz denoiser"! How the heck a denoiser should give such an effect??? Yes, the Daz denoiser is horrible but it doesn't matter how horrible it is, it can't cause such an effect just on the table leg part of the image! I never use the denoiser because it flattens the textures. And even in case the denoiser would have caused this leg thing, the entire image would be blurry which is not the case!
That the leg looks like this is because the creator of that asset decided to give it a more "glassy look" by reducing the opacity. I didn't even notice anything wrong with it and also left it like this "glassy". My main focus was also more on stuff above it.
I re-rendered this scene and here you can see the difference with opacity low and full:
Low opacity table leg:
Full opacity table leg:
OK, maybe this looks really better. I also edited some minor stuff, so thanks for the hint with it anyway.
Furthermore, for those who complain about my art is getting worse, probably just because they either have nothing else to do in their life or just out of fun keep digging out ridiculous details to keep bullshitting on my game.
Here's the difference between the standard Daz Studio render, which is already edited a lot in the program, taking the most out of it:
And here's the edited and enhanced version, giving it a more cinematic look, which also takes a lot of steps in PS:
And here's the final upscaled and corrected version:
The sharpness in direct comparison:
And here the direct comparison between the Daz standard render, which is already practically the best you can do with the program, and the final result which will be used in the game:
See, how many steps are necessary to make it look like the final result? So, if this art quality isn't good enough, I'd like to see something better! Especially from the "fan art" which some people praise here so much being better! And this is not even the most demanding render of the update, btw!
- Jun 11, 2020
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So, how’s the update coming?Lol, it's always funny to read comments here from people with obviously limited understanding and knowledge both of art programs and art in general, trying to discuss detailed stuff about it like experts. It's a little bit like watching a monkey trying to solve tricky mathematical problems
Just for fun I'll tell you quickly what's the real deal.
The table leg is not my mistake nor an artistic mistake in general. And I really need to laugh reading a comment of a well known troll postulating it's because of the "Daz denoiser"! How the heck a denoiser should give such an effect??? Yes, the Daz denoiser is horrible but it doesn't matter how horrible it is, it can't cause such an effect just on the table leg part of the image! I never use the denoiser because it flattens the textures. And even in case the denoiser would have caused this leg thing, the entire image would be blurry which is not the case!
That the leg looks like this is because the creator of that asset decided to give it a more "glassy look" by reducing the opacity. I didn't even notice anything wrong with it and also left it like this "glassy". My main focus was also more on stuff above it.
I re-rendered this scene and here you can see the difference with opacity low and full:
Low opacity table leg:
View attachment 1657425
Full opacity table leg:
View attachment 1657426
OK, maybe this looks really better. I also edited some minor stuff, so thanks for the hint with it anyway.
Furthermore, for those who complain about my art is getting worse, probably just because they either have nothing else to do in their life or just out of fun keep digging out ridiculous details to keep bullshitting on my game.
Here's the difference between the standard Daz Studio render, which is already edited a lot in the program, taking the most out of it:
View attachment 1657433
And here's the edited and enhanced version, giving it a more cinematic look, which also takes a lot of steps in PS:
View attachment 1657435
And here's the final upscaled and corrected version:
View attachment 1657454
The sharpness in direct comparison:
View attachment 1657479
And here the direct comparison between the Daz standard render, which is already practically the best you can do with the program, and the final result which will be used in the game:
View attachment 1657543
See, how many steps are necessary to make it look like the final result? So, if this art quality isn't good enough, I'd like to see something better! Especially from the "fan art" which some people praise here so much being better! And this is not even the most demanding render of the update, btw!
- Sep 23, 2020
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Thankyou for the clarification on my question.Lol, it's always funny to read comments here from people with obviously limited understanding and knowledge both of art programs and art in general, trying to discuss detailed stuff about it like experts. It's a little bit like watching a monkey trying to solve tricky mathematical problems
Just for fun I'll tell you quickly what's the real deal.
The table leg is not my mistake nor an artistic mistake in general. And I really need to laugh reading a comment of a well known troll postulating it's because of the "Daz denoiser"! How the heck a denoiser should give such an effect??? Yes, the Daz denoiser is horrible but it doesn't matter how horrible it is, it can't cause such an effect just on the table leg part of the image! I never use the denoiser because it flattens the textures. And even in case the denoiser would have caused this leg thing, the entire image would be blurry which is not the case!
That the leg looks like this is because the creator of that asset decided to give it a more "glassy look" by reducing the opacity. I didn't even notice anything wrong with it and also left it like this "glassy". My main focus was also more on stuff above it.
I re-rendered this scene and here you can see the difference with opacity low and full:
Low opacity table leg:
View attachment 1657425
Full opacity table leg:
View attachment 1657426
OK, maybe this looks really better. I also edited some minor stuff, so thanks for the hint with it anyway.
Furthermore, for those who complain about my art is getting worse, probably just because they either have nothing else to do in their life or just out of fun keep digging out ridiculous details to keep bullshitting on my game.
Here's the difference between the standard Daz Studio render, which is already edited a lot in the program, taking the most out of it:
View attachment 1657433
And here's the edited and enhanced version, giving it a more cinematic look, which also takes a lot of steps in PS:
View attachment 1657435
And here's the final upscaled and corrected version:
View attachment 1657454
The sharpness in direct comparison:
View attachment 1657479
And here the direct comparison between the Daz standard render, which is already practically the best you can do with the program, and the final result which will be used in the game:
View attachment 1657543
See, how many steps are necessary to make it look like the final result? So, if this art quality isn't good enough, I'd like to see something better! Especially from the "fan art" which some people praise here so much being better! And this is not even the most demanding render of the update, btw!
globsis you got it right, it was the glass effect causing the legs to look like that.
- Aug 23, 2020
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From a scene composition standpoint, would you consider removing the lamp and moving Sophia closer to the desk? The shot feels very fragmented and the main focus is in that ridiculous lamp. Sophia feels like she's a million miles away, and I feel like I have to move my eyes a ton in order to see the scene's most important elements. I'm no expert in Daz or scene composition, but this one feels like it could be improved. At minimum removing the lamp would help a ton.Lol, it's always funny to read comments here from people with obviously limited understanding and knowledge both of art programs and art in general, trying to discuss detailed stuff about it like experts. It's a little bit like watching a monkey trying to solve tricky mathematical problems
Just for fun I'll tell you quickly what's the real deal.
The table leg is not my mistake nor an artistic mistake in general. And I really need to laugh reading a comment of a well known troll postulating it's because of the "Daz denoiser"! How the heck a denoiser should give such an effect??? Yes, the Daz denoiser is horrible but it doesn't matter how horrible it is, it can't cause such an effect just on the table leg part of the image! I never use the denoiser because it flattens the textures. And even in case the denoiser would have caused this leg thing, the entire image would be blurry which is not the case!
That the leg looks like this is because the creator of that asset decided to give it a more "glassy look" by reducing the opacity. I didn't even notice anything wrong with it and also left it like this "glassy". My main focus was also more on stuff above it.
I re-rendered this scene and here you can see the difference with opacity low and full:
Low opacity table leg:
View attachment 1657425
Full opacity table leg:
View attachment 1657426
OK, maybe this looks really better. I also edited some minor stuff, so thanks for the hint with it anyway.
Furthermore, for those who complain about my art is getting worse, probably just because they either have nothing else to do in their life or just out of fun keep digging out ridiculous details to keep bullshitting on my game.
Here's the difference between the standard Daz Studio render, which is already edited a lot in the program, taking the most out of it:
View attachment 1657433
And here's the edited and enhanced version, giving it a more cinematic look, which also takes a lot of steps in PS:
View attachment 1657435
And here's the final upscaled and corrected version:
View attachment 1657454
The sharpness in direct comparison:
View attachment 1657479
And here the direct comparison between the Daz standard render, which is already practically the best you can do with the program, and the final result which will be used in the game:
View attachment 1657543
See, how many steps are necessary to make it look like the final result? So, if this art quality isn't good enough, I'd like to see something better! Especially from the "fan art" which some people praise here so much being better! And this is not even the most demanding render of the update, btw!
Just some thoughts to be helpful.
Indeed the pictures are perfectly done, nevertheless theLol, it's always funny to read comments here from people with obviously limited understanding and knowledge both of art programs and art in general, trying to discuss detailed stuff about it like experts. It's a little bit like watching a monkey trying to solve tricky mathematical problems
Just for fun I'll tell you quickly what's the real deal.
The table leg is not my mistake nor an artistic mistake in general. And I really need to laugh reading a comment of a well known troll postulating it's because of the "Daz denoiser"! How the heck a denoiser should give such an effect??? Yes, the Daz denoiser is horrible but it doesn't matter how horrible it is, it can't cause such an effect just on the table leg part of the image! I never use the denoiser because it flattens the textures. And even in case the denoiser would have caused this leg thing, the entire image would be blurry which is not the case!
That the leg looks like this is because the creator of that asset decided to give it a more "glassy look" by reducing the opacity. I didn't even notice anything wrong with it and also left it like this "glassy". My main focus was also more on stuff above it.
I re-rendered this scene and here you can see the difference with opacity low and full:
Low opacity table leg:
View attachment 1657425
Full opacity table leg:
View attachment 1657426
OK, maybe this looks really better. I also edited some minor stuff, so thanks for the hint with it anyway.
Furthermore, for those who complain about my art is getting worse, probably just because they either have nothing else to do in their life or just out of fun keep digging out ridiculous details to keep bullshitting on my game.
Here's the difference between the standard Daz Studio render, which is already edited a lot in the program, taking the most out of it:
View attachment 1657433
And here's the edited and enhanced version, giving it a more cinematic look, which also takes a lot of steps in PS:
View attachment 1657435
And here's the final upscaled and corrected version:
View attachment 1657454
The sharpness in direct comparison:
View attachment 1657479
And here the direct comparison between the Daz standard render, which is already practically the best you can do with the program, and the final result which will be used in the game:
View attachment 1657543
See, how many steps are necessary to make it look like the final result? So, if this art quality isn't good enough, I'd like to see something better! Especially from the "fan art" which some people praise here so much being better! And this is not even the most demanding render of the update, btw!
Perfectionalisation takes a lot of time. The game was started many years ago and has to be developed. Probably there are a lot of people who are ready to sacrifice the development of the plot to the visual effects, but I doubt they are majority of players
- Dec 25, 2019
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here we go, the salty kid try defend his poor ego instead of workingLol, it's always funny to read comments here from people with obviously limited understanding and knowledge both of art programs and art in general, trying to discuss detailed stuff about it like experts. It's a little bit like watching a monkey trying to solve tricky mathematical problems
Just for fun I'll tell you quickly what's the real deal.
The table leg is not my mistake nor an artistic mistake in general. And I really need to laugh reading a comment of a well known troll postulating it's because of the "Daz denoiser"! How the heck a denoiser should give such an effect??? Yes, the Daz denoiser is horrible but it doesn't matter how horrible it is, it can't cause such an effect just on the table leg part of the image! I never use the denoiser because it flattens the textures. And even in case the denoiser would have caused this leg thing, the entire image would be blurry which is not the case!
That the leg looks like this is because the creator of that asset decided to give it a more "glassy look" by reducing the opacity. I didn't even notice anything wrong with it and also left it like this "glassy". My main focus was also more on stuff above it.
I re-rendered this scene and here you can see the difference with opacity low and full:
Low opacity table leg:
View attachment 1657425
Full opacity table leg:
View attachment 1657426
OK, maybe this looks really better. I also edited some minor stuff, so thanks for the hint with it anyway.
Furthermore, for those who complain about my art is getting worse, probably just because they either have nothing else to do in their life or just out of fun keep digging out ridiculous details to keep bullshitting on my game.
Here's the difference between the standard Daz Studio render, which is already edited a lot in the program, taking the most out of it:
View attachment 1657433
And here's the edited and enhanced version, giving it a more cinematic look, which also takes a lot of steps in PS:
View attachment 1657435
And here's the final upscaled and corrected version:
View attachment 1657454
The sharpness in direct comparison:
View attachment 1657479
And here the direct comparison between the Daz standard render, which is already practically the best you can do with the program, and the final result which will be used in the game:
View attachment 1657543
See, how many steps are necessary to make it look like the final result? So, if this art quality isn't good enough, I'd like to see something better! Especially from the "fan art" which some people praise here so much being better! And this is not even the most demanding render of the update, btw!
- Oct 22, 2017
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This is just an overview render. It doesn't serve for the conversation per se! It literally just serves as the first impression when they're sitting and talking. Giving a spacial impression. For the conversation I used direct character camera angles.
- Mar 28, 2017
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It is simple
Update only as full day-a whole year without a single update,probably even more
Let's not forget that last 2 years(with updates as 1/2 and 1/3 day)we got a total of 5 updates.And together they are smaller than the last update of another popular game.
- Jun 11, 2020
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No whiskey, for Sophia, only see 1 glass
- Aug 23, 2020
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Ok but it doesn't change the fact that the establishing shot is poorly constructed because of the lamp. You don't have to move Sophia, but that lamp should be nuked from space and removed from the Daz servers. Please please please consider deleting it.
- Nov 16, 2019
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You just like take the piss of your underage fan base.Lol, it's always funny to read comments here from people with obviously limited understanding and knowledge both of art programs and art in general, trying to discuss detailed stuff about it like experts. It's a little bit like watching a monkey trying to solve tricky mathematical problems
Just for fun I'll tell you quickly what's the real deal.
The table leg is not my mistake nor an artistic mistake in general. And I really need to laugh reading a comment of a well known troll postulating it's because of the "Daz denoiser"! How the heck a denoiser should give such an effect??? Yes, the Daz denoiser is horrible but it doesn't matter how horrible it is, it can't cause such an effect just on the table leg part of the image! I never use the denoiser because it flattens the textures. And even in case the denoiser would have caused this leg thing, the entire image would be blurry which is not the case!
That the leg looks like this is because the creator of that asset decided to give it a more "glassy look" by reducing the opacity. I didn't even notice anything wrong with it and also left it like this "glassy". My main focus was also more on stuff above it.
I re-rendered this scene and here you can see the difference with opacity low and full:
Low opacity table leg:
View attachment 1657425
Full opacity table leg:
View attachment 1657426
OK, maybe this looks really better. I also edited some minor stuff, so thanks for the hint with it anyway.
Furthermore, for those who complain about my art is getting worse, probably just because they either have nothing else to do in their life or just out of fun keep digging out ridiculous details to keep bullshitting on my game.
Here's the difference between the standard Daz Studio render, which is already edited a lot in the program, taking the most out of it:
View attachment 1657433
And here's the edited and enhanced version, giving it a more cinematic look, which also takes a lot of steps in PS:
View attachment 1657435
And here's the final upscaled and corrected version:
View attachment 1657454
The sharpness in direct comparison:
View attachment 1657479
And here the direct comparison between the Daz standard render, which is already practically the best you can do with the program, and the final result which will be used in the game:
View attachment 1657543
See, how many steps are necessary to make it look like the final result? So, if this art quality isn't good enough, I'd like to see something better! Especially from the "fan art" which some people praise here so much being better! And this is not even the most demanding render of the update, btw!
- Oct 20, 2019
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So, we got two more previews because of the discussion. XD
I think if you would have chosen the first render of these two as the official preview, nobody would have complained. They would have discussed and speculated about Sophia's "worried?" expression instead of the fuzzy table legs. But yeah, the table legs look better without the glassy effect, that in my opinion doesn't work.
- Oct 22, 2017
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It was the best angle to give a quick overview together with the lighting. The lamp is part of the asset which I just left like it is. The lamp gives the table and the surrounding a better atmosphere imo and is an important illumination for this part. Removing it would make the front part too dark together with the faces. Spotlights would look strange there because this would be light without a source. Making the lamp much smaller would be possible but would also illuminate a much smaller surrounding. I really don't see any issue with that lamp in this image. Plus, because of the DOF effect, the front with the lamp inclusive are blurry and the characters behind sharp, which already gives you the highlighted part of the image! Plus it's also a kinda nice division of the two parties of the scene. Sorry, but this is really far-fetched complaining at a very high level which became standard here on this forum site.
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- Oct 20, 2019
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By the way, did you see my recommendation about an artist that I think could help you to speed up the development? You should try to contact him.
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- Jan 14, 2018
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I have the opportunity to communicate directly with the game developer, whom I have been following for a long time. I have long been interested in the question - why was the model "Adora" chosen for the main character of "Sofia"? As far as I understand, she (Adora) is a mystical hero. Why did you like her so much?.
- Sep 22, 2017
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Seriously, L&P can be criticised for whatever reason, but for his art? come on...
- Apr 21, 2020
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