VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.200] [Lust & Passion]

[PaxHadrian17]

That's what really bothers me too.
I think it's great that L&P is now starting to give Sophia some action. But because he always treats the events in such a way that they could stand on their own without any connection to other routes/events, you always have the feeling that the overall story is being pulled out of the tree with a chainsaw.
First the shameful and guilty self-reflection just 8 hours before, after the Dylan event, and then apparently quite easily, Sophia gives herself to a man she has only met for the second time.
Sophia cheats on her husband in public and in front of her daughter.
I'm annoyed with myself that it bothers me so much. This is actually a porno, but a little better connection between the events would improve the whole thing considerably for me.

I think L&P abandoned the cohesive story as he pushed further into event driven story updates.

Everything that happens now seems to happen in an AWAM universe where stories are generally independent of each other.

Sophia gets taken to an orgasm by Sam, gives Dylan a hand job and in the next update, perhaps fingerbanged by someone she only met once before - and in front of her daughter, all in the span of less than 2 days.

Will there be any introspection by Sophia, wondering about how she got herself into this situation with Sam and Dylan, all while making out with Tyler and, perhaps getting fingered on the way?

I doubt it, based on the lack of introspection in prior events.

I agree - we need some introspection from the 'wife and mother' about the choices she has made and the different males/females she has been intimate with - but there is nothing.

As time goes on, this disconnection between events will dilute the AWAM story even more, turning this AVN into a series of porn shorts and fully abandoning a story with interconnected characters who react to what is taking place around them and with whom.

L&P has the perfect confidant for Sophia - her Sister Patricia. She could be the person that Sophia calls and confides in about what is happening with various men and women, her confusion and disappointment with Liam, and her needs as a woman. L&P could make sharing part of this conversation with the reader integral to each day - but that takes planning and a level of diligence that L&P has been lacking in for a while.

I actually have little interest in the next update - my canon choice was Dylan persuaded Ellie to kick Logan the cheater to the curb - so the next update I have any investment in will likely land sometime in the late summer.

Cheers!!

 

[YRio94]

Based on the released teaser content, I don't understand the entire contents of this update.

Sophia spending time alone or Sophia regretted what happened with Dylan the previous day.

The next morning, without knowing who was at the door (or imagining Murray), Sophia took off bra and opened the door wearing a see-through gown.

Plus, if look at first teaser, that's not what Sophia's pajamas were like.
I can't help but interpret that from the beginning, she didn't wear it to cover up, but to show off.


Also, as far as I know, Ellie was meeting Logan for the first time after witnessing him having sex with another woman.

Such Ellie is doing something like that half naked with her mother in the sauna.
This is Ellie, who has no sex experience and has never even used a dildo.


Sophia also told Ellie that she wanted to talk to Logan as she was Ellie's mother.
Such she is half naked and doing this to her daughter's boyfriend in front with his friend.


Lastly, mom and daughter together officially betraying husband (or dad).
Why?


One day suddenly, they became whore.

I like the idea of turning Sofia and Ellie into two whores of the city

 

[lockerxx]

i want to see the spoilers of the lesbian part.

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with the guys who looks they come from the crow remake.

 

[kimber700]

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So easy Sophia to this guy.

 

[naoligopraisso]

A wife and a Blue Ball

 

[hzjujk]

Not sure I am replying to the correct post but it was scrolling fast. So appologies.
As for Sophia making out and getting groped in front of Ellie, if you cast your mind way back, this already happened with Julia at the pool. Ellie watched and also rubbed herself while Sohpia and Julia made out and groped each other. So Sophia doing it now with a guy in front of Ellie is nothing new.

I don't want to claim that one event counts as fraud and the other event doesn't. Or because only women were involved in the scene it wasn't a scam!
And yet most people here would say the scene with Julia was more of an "innocent try" while what happened there in the sauna is far from new and "try".
But now there is something more. On the one hand, the day before Sophia had something like a serious self-reflection about what her behavior meant for the first time. At least on one route.
For others, Julia knows that Sophia is married and with Logan there is a risk that one day he will show up at the front door to pick up Ellie and the whole fraud will be exposed. Not only does Sophia cheat on her husband, but also that she has an incestuous relationship with her daughter.

 

[fishbrain]

Not sure I am replying to the correct post but it was scrolling fast. So appologies.
As for Sophia making out and getting groped in front of Ellie, if you cast your mind way back, this already happened with Julia at the pool. Ellie watched and also rubbed herself while Sohpia and Julia made out and groped each other. So Sophia doing it now with a guy in front of Ellie is nothing new.

It is completely different with a guy, with Julia it was more of experimentation than a passionate affair.

nobody cares

Just your mom.

 

[rAmSiMaL]

Based on the released teaser content, I don't understand the entire contents of this update.

Sophia spending time alone or Sophia regretted what happened with Dylan the previous day.

The next morning, without knowing who was at the door (or imagining Murray), Sophia took off bra and opened the door wearing a see-through gown.

Plus, if look at first teaser, that's not what Sophia's pajamas were like.
I can't help but interpret that from the beginning, she didn't wear it to cover up, but to show off.


Also, as far as I know, Ellie was meeting Logan for the first time after witnessing him having sex with another woman.

Such Ellie is doing something like that half naked with her mother in the sauna.
This is Ellie, who has no sex experience and has never even used a dildo.


Sophia also told Ellie that she wanted to talk to Logan as she was Ellie's mother.
Such she is half naked and doing this to her daughter's boyfriend in front with his friend.


Lastly, mom and daughter together officially betraying husband (or dad).
Why?


One day suddenly, they became whore.

Tbh when I first saw the preview of events of PD14 I thought the following is going to happen:
- Short Sam: a quick cello lesson with some practice tricks. A kiss from Sam and maybe some groping. Sophia trying to cool things down and stopping him.
- Short Ellie: mother daughter meet and have a short conversation about last day’s events (depending on choices)
- Long Ellie: Sophia tries to reason with her daughter and maybe describing something from her past. Or spending some quality time outside.

It is the morning after an eventful day and it is reasonable the characters to want to calm down a bit. LP could use a bunch of flashbacks to show some hot experiences from Sophia’s past if LP wanted to have some hot/spicy scenes included in this release. At the same time he offers us a glimpse from Sophia’s rebellious past.

The way I see this event and those following are under the prism of a porn logic. So enjoy the fact that mother and daughter are being seduced by these doushebags…

 

[tofhdns]

Tbh when I first saw the preview of events of PD14 I thought the following is going to happen:
- Short Sam: a quick cello lesson with some practice tricks. A kiss from Sam and maybe some groping. Sophia trying to cool things down and stopping him.
- Short Ellie: mother daughter meet and have a short conversation about last day’s events (depending on choices)
- Long Ellie: Sophia tries to reason with her daughter and maybe describing something from her past. Or spending some quality time outside.

It is the morning after an eventful day and it is reasonable the characters to want to calm down a bit. LP could use a bunch of flashbacks to show some hot experiences from Sophia’s past if LP wanted to have some hot/spicy scenes included in this release. At the same time he offers us a glimpse from Sophia’s rebellious past.

The way I see this event and those following are under the prism of a porn logic. So enjoy the fact that mother and daughter are being seduced by these doushebags…

I don't think you understood what I said at all.

I'm not criticizing porn for happening.

 

[tofhdns]

I like the idea of turning Sofia and Ellie into two whores of the city

You too have a wrong point.

 

[Rythan25]

All this complaining that this scene will get some “action” is sad… I bet these same people would not be whining if the action included characters that a lot of other people find gross as hell such as the shitty Janitor Clark, Andre and Aiden, the old fucking losers from the retirement house, or the smelly hobos or movers.

the only thing unrealistic here is that she is doing it in front of her daughter, the fact that he is a young athletic stranger is more believable than any of the people above, same thing with museum guys, they are people she may never see again, so it’s easier to cheat with.

 

[JorellMartis]

sophia with other mens is what we want

 

[keefer43]

Based on the released teaser content, I don't understand the entire contents of this update.

Sophia spending time alone or Sophia regretted what happened with Dylan the previous day.

The next morning, without knowing who was at the door (or imagining Murray), Sophia took off bra and opened the door wearing a see-through gown.

Plus, if look at first teaser, that's not what Sophia's pajamas were like.
I can't help but interpret that from the beginning, she didn't wear it to cover up, but to show off.


Also, as far as I know, Ellie was meeting Logan for the first time after witnessing him having sex with another woman.

Such Ellie is doing something like that half naked with her mother in the sauna.
This is Ellie, who has no sex experience and has never even used a dildo.


Sophia also told Ellie that she wanted to talk to Logan as she was Ellie's mother.
Such she is half naked and doing this to her daughter's boyfriend in front with his friend.


Lastly, mom and daughter together officially betraying husband (or dad).
Why?


One day suddenly, they became whore.

Sophia knew what she was doing (and for whom) when she took off her bra - she was smiling so sweetly in the teaser....

 

[tofhdns]

Sophia knew what she was doing (and for whom) when she took off her bra - she was smiling so sweetly in the teaser....

When the teaser was released, many people were looking forward to seeing Sam.
But the developer hinted that Murray is there.

That's why I said that either Sophia didn't know who it was or she imagined Murray.

In fact, Sophia had an experience in the past where she was embarrassed when she saw Ivan because she didn't know who rang the doorbell.

 

[emotionww]

Now that Sofia's relationships with more people are deepening, the LP needs to branch out and conclude storylines with some characters before things become chaotic. Especially since Dylan and Sam are clearly on a romantic path, while others are on coercive paths, and some are just sexual partners. Mixing all these paths in one storyline is not appropriate, as Sofia will eventually become a prostitute who can sleep with every person. The LP needs to quickly vote on whose storyline should be removed or concluded first.

 

[bardock8114]

I am convinced that that hand slides down.
But suddenly other people arrive and stop.
At that point I open the window and I throw out.
I really hope Lust finishes the action this time.

This already did happen at the club. So i doubt it,

He never shows the actual event but rather the stuff before

 

[CSK92]

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I sure am glad he went to these shorter updates. The production has picked up a Tic.

 

[nc69]

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Why didnt i just read and listen to what was written on the spoiler tag

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Progress Report Ver. 0.200
100% - 100% - 100%
75% - 0% - 90%

 

[INOM_18]

idk, youtube, msn, and all other social platform now didn't include thumb's down or facepalm emote anymore
maybe just because someone can easily depressed and then commit suicide when they got those emotes, or perhaps they believe they can get reincarnated as a powerful being on the next life

new form of facepalm's nowdays