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onefingersalute

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Like twice a year, ~1 scene per update
your wrong on that it has been for last few years has been 3 to 4 updates a year 1 being 3 to 4 months apart except this year the he/she seems to have upped their game already putting out 3 fixing to be 4 well before the half way mark on the year so he probably will have 5 to 6 updates this year maybe more but i would say 5 to 6
 

Alley_Cat

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Tbh, it seems that the story is written more with a lesbian flavor than a hetero one, at least as far as Sophia's concerned. There's nothing wrong with that if that's L&P's goal but if you really look at it, he's right about the abundance. There's the encounter with the maid, a shower scene with Ellie, Ellie's kiss with her friend at the pool, the pool scene with Sophia, Ellie and her friend, not to mention the scene with Alyssa and the most recent update. Even still, there are more scenes that are teasers to upcoming lesbian events than hetero. When you take the time to pull back and look at all of the scenes separately, you begin to see the lesbian theme. Some of the hetero scenes are just teasers that probably won't be addressed anytime soon, given the frequency of the lesbian and teased lesbian, content.
That is a load of utter crap. Yeah, the lesbian scenes are far hotter than the hetero ones. But in terms of abundance and length, the Dylan scenes are twice as many and twice as long. The Sam events are about twice as many as the Patricia ones.

There also isn't a side job for those of us on the lesbian route. But one specifically catered to pedo fans.
Hey, I’m not blaming anything on anyone (aside from L&P feature creeping himself into a corner), but I’m saying that with the space of time between these updates, you’ve got to mix it up, lest you turn off the people who aren’t here for that.

Alls I’m saying is that if I had a near full PD coming on the visible horizon that was going to be a near nonstop Sam and Sophia extravaganza, I’d probably be content to wait for that, just satisfied knowing that it’s coming, rather than saying “Why isn’t this coming update just Sam without the other characters that other people might like? I don’t care that other people might like these characters, I want Sam now!”

With the slow trickle of Sam updates, I’ve actually started following other subplots (Zac, Tyler, and yes, Deshawn) just to stay interested, but even then, we’re still looking down the barrel of five PDs before our first hetero sex scene. By comparison, there’s what, two major lesbian scenes in the next in-game 48 hours? Can we not just be happy with that, and accept that some people might like Vicky and Deshawn?

Also:

Thank you for that recommendation. That's a pretty darn good one. Chris is a true scumbag.
Except that L&P has gone over backwards to say that what you're talking about is exactly what we shouldn't expect. He's even told us that there'll be events on the bonus storyline on PD15.

It's in no way whatsoever going to be the lesbian day fans like me are going to enjoy. The last Elliie route event proved that.
 

palmtrees89

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You're splitting hairs. The lack of content is only a problem because of how slow the releases are. And what do you mean by 'volume' if not 'content'?
Volume = Amount of renders, playtime per release
Content = What's happening during events, for example the kinks provided (Hetero content, lesbian content...etc)

Like twice a year, ~1 scene per update
Depending on the volume (amount of renders) per release, about 3 months per update on average with some devcycles being longer, others shorter. The average might move towards 4 months/update as he's generally getting slower every year. 2024 is, so far, his worst ever if we were to look at the average renders/day. That is unless we count the first update released in early January, tho 99% of the development time for that update had been spent in 2023.

Either way, 6 months (and more) per update was back in 2021 with 1/3rd of a PD before he's switched to event-based releases with 10% of a PD in 2022.
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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Volume = Amount of renders, playtime per release
Content = What's happening during events, for example the kinks provided (Hetero content, lesbian content...etc)


Depending on the volume (amount of renders) per release, about 3 months per update on average with some devcycles being longer, others shorter. The average might move towards 4 months/update as he's generally getting slower every year. 2024 is, so far, his worst ever if we were to look at the average renders/day. That is unless we count the first update released in early January, tho 99% of the development time for that update had been spent in 2023.

Either way, 6 months (and more) per update was back in 2021 with 1/3rd of a PD before he's switched to event-based releases with 10% of a PD in 2022.
If he continues to add additional event content like Sophia/Ellie Hetero v0.200 and Sophia/Ellie Lesbian v0.201, then he is on his way to event partials.
 

palmtrees89

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If he continues to add additional event content like Sophia/Ellie Hetero v0.200 and Sophia/Ellie Lesbian v0.201, then he is on his way to event partials.
Yup, that would be the next step to slow everything down further while on the other hand giving L&P another excuse ala "I released X amount of updates this year, guys!" when in reality 2 updates are really only 1 update in terms of story progression.

I really do hope .200+.201 was an exception, but I'm not holding my breath either. Doing it like that would prolly add another 20 years to the already 50 years left to finish this game. lol
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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Yup, that would be the next step to slow everything down further while on the other hand giving L&P another excuse ala "I released X amount of updates this year, guys!" when in reality 2 updates are really only 1 update in terms of story progression.

I really do hope .200+.201 was an exception, but I'm not holding my breath either. Doing it like that would prolly add another 20 years to the already 50 years left to finish this game. lol
He had one before this one, adding animations to his updates two years ago with v0.155. This delayed the release of v0.155, and he started working on v0.160. However, the animations were completed during v0.160. So, he combined v0.155 with what he finished in v0.160. Then, he completed v0.160 with v0.161.

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-201-lust-passion.5944/post-4284722
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OZtheW1ZARD

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I am going to say something that will give me a lot of flack here but, when you look at the render count the pace of development is not slow.
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https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-201-lust-passion.5944/post-4284722

4.25 renders per day is a very good number, when you also consider their quality. These things take time.

I also do not understand the constant complain about the lack of sex. I may be wrong but the whole schedule has been laid down and L&P is pretty clear when to expect it. You know it is not going to happened for a long time still so just move on and come back in few years. There is plenty of decent titles here.
This is especially true if you are not a supporter. I can understand the frustration when you are long term financial contributor to the title, but in that case one always have the option to withdraw the funds.
When you are just leeching this title for free from here (and it is leeching, no question about it), you have absolutely no right to anything and L&P does not owe you a thing in terms of quality or quantity of the content!
Just bookmark the game and come back when there is substantial content or it matches your expectations.
 

derek1957

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are there any other scenes of sophia with neil, him not getting slapped in the end?
From memory, Sophia hasn’t had any interaction with Neil since he roofied her. Right after that, she watched Neil and Amber have sex in their yard and noted that Neil was well-endowed, but also that he didn’t last very long. Later she heard Neil through Sam’s bedroom door making a crude comment about her.

I don't recall any indication that Sophia told Liam that his good friend Neil drugged both of them and fondled her ass and tried to yank her bra open. She didn’t bring it up when Liam told her that Neil might be coming over to watch a basketball game.
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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I am going to say something that will give me a lot of flack here but, when you look at the render count the pace of development is not slow.
View attachment 3738174
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-201-lust-passion.5944/post-4284722

4.25 renders per day is a very good number, when you also consider their quality. These things take time.

I also do not understand the constant complain about the lack of sex. I may be wrong but the whole schedule has been laid down and L&P is pretty clear when to expect it. You know it is not going to happened for a long time still so just move on and come back in few years. There is plenty of decent titles here.
This is especially true if you are not a supporter. I can understand the frustration when you are long term financial contributor to the title, but in that case one always have the option to withdraw the funds.
When you are just leeching this title for free from here (and it is leeching, no question about it), you have absolutely no right to anything and L&P does not owe you a thing in terms of quality or quantity of the content!
Just bookmark the game and come back when there is substantial content or it matches your expectations.
V0.201 contains no animation or additional work as it was tied into the v0.200 Sophia/Ellie story. So, the bulk of the work was completed. These CS/renders are for the replacement part in the sauna for the lesbian side. So, the CS/renders per day should be higher. You shouldn't use v0.201 as a comparison.

If you are going to compare them to other versions, then you would need to add v0.201 to v0.200 and then do the math.
 

derek1957

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It’s been a while since anybody has rubbed Sophia’s belly, which seems to be a little fetish of the dev’s. It’s a nice little piece of early foreplay. Sophia’s new outfit seems to invite it.

Speaking of belly rubbing, could Ryan the gym employee make an appearance? Probably not. Unless maybe it’s so DeShawn can put him in his place. Sophia swoons when guys act tough.

We’ve seen a gym rat rub her belly, a Latino rub her belly over her skirt (Alley scene), her sister, her son, a teen girl, her young female employee, her male teen neighbor, and her student. But no black belly-rubbers yet.

BellyTouching1.jpg
 

palmtrees89

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4.25 renders per day is a very good number, when you also consider their quality. These things take time.
Do you actually know the process of producing renders? The majority of time goes into creating the scene (environment assets, lighting, whatever DAZ settings you use, setting up characters and their clothing). Once that's done, you mostly just pose characters and change camera angles for each render. Render times are in the single digit minutes with L&P's rigs.

So no, 4.25 renders is abysmal, especially considering your example only has renders inside an empty Sauna asset with women wrapped in towels and nothing else (see Dr.SigmundFap's post above).

You also seem to not really be aware of the fact that L&P is getting slower and slower every single year. Good render quality does not mean you produce less overall renders every year either. You might be new to this project and so I can't blame you for trying to be positive about this, but you'll eventually come to the realization that with L&P it is ALWAYS a downhill ride, never up or even a constant.

And no, I'm not here "demanding" him to work faster or provide me with any particular content as yes, I'm not paying this guy anymore. Been there, done that. He can do whatever he wants, and I can come here and criticize his statements, straight up lies, slow development and the above mentioned constant downhill ride for years.
 

Anteron

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I am going to say something that will give me a lot of flack here but, when you look at the render count the pace of development is not slow.
View attachment 3738174
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-201-lust-passion.5944/post-4284722

4.25 renders per day is a very good number, when you also consider their quality. These things take time.

I also do not understand the constant complain about the lack of sex. I may be wrong but the whole schedule has been laid down and L&P is pretty clear when to expect it. You know it is not going to happened for a long time still so just move on and come back in few years. There is plenty of decent titles here.
This is especially true if you are not a supporter. I can understand the frustration when you are long term financial contributor to the title, but in that case one always have the option to withdraw the funds.
When you are just leeching this title for free from here (and it is leeching, no question about it), you have absolutely no right to anything and L&P does not owe you a thing in terms of quality or quantity of the content!
Just bookmark the game and come back when there is substantial content or it matches your expectations.
Why the fuck would anyone still support it? 7 years no sex in an AVN is just plain awful. I dropped patronage years ago.
BTW some of the comments defending him here are supposedly multiple accounts he has here to do that - and to bitch about bad comments/reviews to the mods - might notice how many bad reviews get removed. Wouldn't be surprised if he has alts to make good reviews. Who the fuck cares how good the renders are if there's no good content? So far this is basically a bad marriage simulator. Definitely milking. It seems though lately the comments/reviews are staying - so maybe even the mods/admins got tired of the bullshit. This guy makes Icstor look good.
 

OZtheW1ZARD

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Do you actually know the process of producing renders? The majority of time goes into creating the scene (environment assets, lighting, whatever DAZ settings you use, setting up characters and their clothing). Once that's done, you mostly just pose characters and change camera angles for each render. Render times are in the single digit minutes with L&P's rigs.

So no, 4.25 renders is abysmal, especially considering your example only has renders inside an empty Sauna asset with women wrapped in towels and nothing else (see Dr.SigmundFap's post above).

You also seem to not really be aware of the fact that L&P is getting slower and slower every single year. Good render quality does not mean you produce less overall renders every year either. You might be new to this project and so I can't blame you for trying to be positive about this, but you'll eventually come to the realization that with L&P it is ALWAYS a downhill ride, never up or even a constant.

And no, I'm not here "demanding" him to work faster or provide me with any particular content as yes, I'm not paying this guy anymore. Been there, done that. He can do whatever he wants, and I can come here and criticize his statements, straight up lies, slow development and the above mentioned constant downhill ride for years.

Yeah, actually I do know what I am talking about.
Granted I am 2D artist myself, but I have seen 3D assets being used in a workflow in both amateur and professional setting.
Does not matter if you are using DAZ or more advanced software pro use. Getting the scene, models, the lighting, and postprocessing right takes time and effort.
 

rAmSiMaL

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It’s been a while since anybody has rubbed Sophia’s belly, which seems to be a little fetish of the dev’s. It’s a nice little piece of early foreplay. Sophia’s new outfit seems to invite it.

Speaking of belly rubbing, could Ryan the gym employee make an appearance? Probably not. Unless maybe it’s so DeShawn can put him in his place. Sophia swoons when guys act tough.

We’ve seen a gym rat rub her belly, a Latino rub her belly over her skirt (Alley scene), her sister, her son, a teen girl, her young female employee, her male teen neighbor, and her student. But no black belly-rubbers yet.

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It’s time for one to do so…
 
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