VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

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PietruccioTheHilander

PietruccioTheHilander

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You and gingersweetgirl are overreacting a little. Your expectations are way too high for this game, but it's only one of hundreds on this forum.

It's like with your own kid. You have lots of hopes and dreams about them, know that he/she's a better side of the same coin and one day he/she screws up royally. And you've no clue how to react. It's embarassing and awkward.

Same thing here. For some unknown reason some of the folks here think that very next update all their wishes gonna be fulfilled, or if not now, the one after that for sure.

The reality is that something outstanding and wild will happen not earlier than on playable Day 16, unless the Dev falls into the submission of the patreons and changes the already written script, which is highly unlikely.

Let's assume Sophia looses her sanity and starts spreading her legs left and right, beginning from 0.130. Not only that would contradict everything prior to whatever happened earlier, but would as well literally break the narraritve thread of the storyline.

L&P sticks to his plan, whether we may like it or not, and each and every update increases the heat gradually, but inevitably. On Day 10 Sophia reluctantly agreed to shower with Ellie for the 2nd time and just 2 (!!!) days later they're already pleasing themselves eye to eye. And the next day it's supposed to be another time jump. I can't imagine how much hotter is gonna be their next scene.
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you're right sophia doesn't have to open her legs on the second day and this is not a porn game, but the events are still too soft.

Here's how things should have been in my opinion:
Shower scene: All right up to the time of Ellie's orgasm, here I would have put two choices
1 Sophia on seeing Ellie having an orgasm, she gets aroused and starts masturbating too and they arrive along with orgasm.
2 Ellie fails to have an orgasm and Sophia decides to help her by touching her, Ellie does the same thing on her mother and they orgasm by stimulating each other

Sauna scene: All good until the moment Sophia returns to the sauna and Deshawn invites her to stay, here I would have put two choices
1 the three continue talking normally as happens in the update
2 Sophia apologizes for interrupting them and authorizes them to continue enjoying the show

Prison scene: Nothing to report

Liam scene: Nothing to report just never animations

I seem to notice that l&p is still holding back, afraid to render an open pussy or erect penis, honestly I don't understand.
 
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Maviarab

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sinnemmx said:
Shower scene: All right up to the time of Ellie's organ, here I would have put two choices
1 Sophia on seeing Ellie having an organ, she gets aroused and starts masturbating too and they arrive along with orgasm.
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Wait...stop...time out!

Ellie has an organ? Wooaahh....what have I missed?
 
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maaarco2014

maaarco2014

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One day maybe this title could be 5 stars, but for now it deserves 1, I'll explain why: 3/4 months of waiting, 9 minutes of game clock.
No serious story development. Each chapter introduces a new subplot that is systematically abandoned and each update essentially brings little or nothing. When this game is complete, probably in about ten years, then we can say that we have a good title in front of it, perhaps, but for now there is nothing. Nice renders? yes but there are many titles with equally beautiful redere or even more. realistic and interesting story? I bring you to titles like "good girl gone bad" or "acting lessons" those that are titles with a truly fascinating, well-developed and exciting story.
In short, this is not the only title to try to bring something aesthetically pleasing and well scripted, but it is the only one that takes months and months to then offer the cosmic nothingness, flaunting an arrogance and a lack of respect for his supporters, of whom I was once glad to be a part too, but which I stopped being when I began to feel seriously mocked.
 
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lalapopoland

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Yatsiro said:
Update with only one DAY (scenes are good but only two events) really? It remembers me Big Brother. Good art, but greedy creator and too small updates.
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Well, unlike this, Big Brother was a huge turd to begin with. Inever saw the appeal to it. Actually, thinking back i think it was because BB was one of the few daz3d porn games out there that looked good until Dating my daughter came.
 
abram1

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sinnemmx said:
you're right sophia doesn't have to open her legs on the second day and this is not a porn game, but the events are still too soft.

Here's how things should have been in my opinion:
Shower scene: All right up to the time of Ellie's organ, here I would have put two choices
1 Sophia on seeing Ellie having an organ, she gets aroused and starts masturbating too and they arrive along with orgasm.
2 Ellie fails to have an organ and Sophia decides to help her by touching her, Ellie does the same thing on her mother and they orgasm by stimulating each other

Sauna scene: All good until the moment Sophia returns to the sauna and deswant invites her to stay, here I would have put two choices
1 the three continue talking normally as happens in the update
2 Sophia apologizes for interrupting them and authorizes them to continue enjoying the show

Prison scene: Nothing to report

Liam scene: Nothing to report just never animations

I seem to notice that lep is still holding back, afraid to render an open pussy or erect penis, honestly I don't understand.
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Are you sure we're talking about the same game, coz correct me if I'm wrong, but organ = penis = dick. :KEK:
Trust me, if I'd be in Sophia's shoes, I'd be shocked as hell seeing my daughter with a schlong below, coz a couple of days ago she looked like a normal girl.:LOL:
But, hey, if someone from the Fan Art thread will read this, pls, make this version of Ellie/Sophia shower scene. That will spice things up significantly.

And I'm not entirelly sure who lep is, but the Dev isn't afraid to render anything. Try playing GW route as well, Sophia showed everything to everyone during the first sex scene with Liam.
 
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PietruccioTheHilander

PietruccioTheHilander

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abram1 said:
Are you sure we're talking about the same game, coz correct me if I'm wrong, but organ = penis = dick. :KEK:
Trust me, if I'd be in Sophia's shoes, I'd be shocked as hell seeing my daughter with a schlong below, coz a couple of days ago she looked like a normal girl.:LOL:
But, hey, if someone from the Fan Art thread will read this, pls, make this version of Ellie/Sophia shower scene. That will spice things up significantly.

And I'm not entirelly sure who lep is, but the Dev isn't afraid to render anything. Try playing GW route as well, Sophia showed everything to everyone during the first sex scene with Liam.
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sorry for writing errors I meant orgasm not organ lep = L&P
 
armion82

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jamdan said:
I think one thing everyone can agree on is the game has way too many characters & routes. And I think a lot of people will agree that that is one of the reasons this update was mediocre.

The next Ellie event is Day 14 according to another poster, that is going to take a long time to say the least. 3 more updates to complete this day, and then 4 more to complete the next day and probably one or two more depending on which timeslot Ellie has in Day 14. We're looking at a year and a half between Ellie scenes, maybe more.

To continue my first point, the game has too many similar routes. There doesn't need to be different job routes. The nursing job, teacher job X2 and now maybe a soccer coach job? Why? The game has too many blackmail routes. The bullies at school and Aiden, probably others that I don't remember. Too many routes that people don't care about, the Logan+Ellie route for example. Probably the new Boss route from this update.

I understand that LP is trying to create a world, but it's being spread very thin and he keeps making it thinner by adding more people. Some devs work quick enough to be able to have a bunch of characters and routes, and it still be workable, but LP isn't one of them.

In addition to that, he wastes a lot of time with filler renders. I don't know how many are in this update, but the last one had almost 1000. You can easily make an entire day in 1000 renders.
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Previous one was more than 1300 renders.I will aid Dylan/Emma to completelty unnecessary side routes.
lalapopoland said:
Well, unlike this, Big Brother was a huge turd to begin with. Inever saw the appeal to it. Actually, thinking back i think it was because BB was one of the few daz3d porn games out there that looked good until Dating my daughter came.
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BB started later than DMD,almost half year later.
 
AL.d

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Cicica said:
The issue with this game isn't how short the updates are necessarily or how little sex or nude scenes there are, but how large the gap is between the updates. That's the biggest problem, otherwise it is one of the games that I am the most excited for
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All these aren't isolated. People would cut some slack for the slow progression in-game if the updates were more frequent. People would also take the glacial pacing better if the updates were chunkier, even with this gap. Also people would complain less if the updates were short and not frequent, but had more action instead of years playing as a 40yo wallflower. It's a combination.

As it is, the game updates once every blue moon, with very short gameplay time for each and extremely slow in-game progression. But I wouldn't change a thing either if I still made good bank. Which is what is happening despite all that.
 
Buster65

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You guys don't see me now, but I'm laughing a lot. This thread has 2423 pages ... 2423!!! The fun part is that 70% of the posts are made to complain (small content, huge gap between updates, little to no sex content). And do you know what L&P does with all that? ... NOTHING !! Keep doing things the way he wants! Working at his own pace and with his own ideas ... and collecting pay!
My best advice? Forget this ... come back when it's done (in 4 or 5 years... maybe more) and play the full game.
Anyway... Good life and Happy New Year for everyone!!
 
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Falk69

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Good update ? Yes, kinda nice :)
Worth to wait for 4 months ? Hell no, that's the only reason I won't sub on his patreon.
Yes, it takes time to write a good story, to create some great scenes, but not that much !
 
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