VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[ancienregimele]

I think he cares about none payers opinions... He is an artist, that is the difference. This game is not jerk off, jerk on type.... Stimulation is fine to have it by paying, but I think that he cares a bit more about none payers opinion, they are more objective than other one. Pure liknes of game is what they have. More money they give, more sex they want in game. That's not the way artists do, just don't.

I wish he did but over the years the evidence has shown that he does not care about non-paying fans. After all, why should he? Even Paying Patrons are lucky to have their questions answered & views heard, if they're very different from the Dev's. What he has done in line with Patron feedback, is to make Dylan the 2nd MC, (which to me suggests parity with Sophia) & now apparently the lead character. Patrons want Dylan & that's what he is slowly delivering.....a surfeit?....not if you're a Dylan fan. AWAM should be retitled, or perhaps also rebooted as a game with Dylan's adventures receiving laser-like focus & Sophia as part of the supporting cast. Then it might take less than 30+ years to complete.

That would certainly cure my own AWAM addiction.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Anything that leads to more complications in the immediate surroundings of Sophia can ultimately make the story more interesting. The stories between Dylan/Amber (especially as a mirror to the story between Sophia/Sam) but also the story between Dylan/Ellie are perfect examples of this. L&P just has to have the courage to have these stories also affect Sophia at a later point in the game. For example, what is Sophia supposed to do when she finds out what's going on between Dylan and Amber while she herself is making out with Amber's son?

Also, don't forget that by letting the player act from Dylan's perspective, L&P can give the player information that Sophia doesn't have yet. As long as L&P don't overdo it (e.g. by introducing even more main characters) this can really have a great potential f or the story telling in the game. For me, the voyuer scenes are a good example for that, because they have to be told in Dylan view (because Sophia should certainly not know about it, at least in the beginning) and give great possibilities for complications, especially when you consider that Dylan might also catch Sophia in her voyeur actions.

No, what you can eliminate are all the stories that have little to do with the rest of the characters in the main story (especially the two side jobs). That's also why I think it's a shame that L&P didn't take the opportunity to have Dylan witness the event that happend between Sohia and Sam. This would have made the whole event with another insignificant side-charker in the salon unnecessary, but still give Dylan a reason to watch out more for Sophias actions.

Why Dylan though? There is the same potential for storytelling if there was a scene from Ellie's POV. Or Sam's, or Patricia's.

 

[piuma]

i wanna play dylan with marie scene but i do not have save files. anyone can help me?

 

[|UserName|]

i wanna play dylan with marie scene but i do not have save files. anyone can help me?

You can play it in the gallery, without a save file.

 

[CSK92]

Am I the only who thinks that Alyssa is hottest other character in this game and possibly in the VN Universe. She could do a 2nd side story VN by herself, but this dev is not as smart as some give him credit for.

 

[hmc15]

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April 17th here we come

 

[WildBillKatt]

What do you mean? Dylan is there and still leading the way, with over 1400 votes total.

Also, poor Liam

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LOL, mover that we last saw 5 years ago has 7 times as many votes.

 

[Sagf]

I am pretty sure people will appreciate more if he starts working on next update, instead of doing these things.

I know, there was already a poll about the favorite character, it' s like a waste of time this poll and the new haircut or fade

 

[Bane71]

Am I the only who thinks that Alyssa is hottest other character in this game and possibly in the VN Universe. She could do a 2nd side story VN by herself, but this dev is not as smart as some give him credit for.

I will only agree with the second part of your post.
There is no point in arguing about who is the most interesting character in the AWAM universe, there are quite a lot of interesting ones and there may always be a new one even more attractive.
The fact that L&P does not connect assistants to the work, giving them the opportunity to prove themselves in working on a parallel plot, and if they are successful, include this work in the game. It tells me that you are right, many overestimate L&P, he is not so smart and calculating.

 

[JorellMartis]

What do you mean? Dylan is there and still leading the way, with over 1400 votes total.

Also, poor Liam

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will the janitor clark have sex with sophia in the coming update?

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

will the janitor clark have sex with sophia in the coming update?

No

 

[Rojouninco1]

If you go in this route !! Also maybe in the near ... It could happen Ah !!

Can't wait for this event " Please with all due respect if you are not into this event Look away I thank you and don't comment"

Spoiler: Interesting in this special event S & D :) "Next" D &E hmm :)

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[SuperPerv96]

Oh yeah watch out for those Subway Thugs…

i figured you've more exited about Mr. Murray popularity

 

[|UserName|]

If you go in this route !! Also maybe in the near ... It could happen Ah !!

Can't wait for this event " Please with all due respect if you are not into this event Look away I thank you and don't comment"

Spoiler: Interesting in this special event S & D :) "Next" D &E hmm :)

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And he's back with more amazing content! Thank you for this!

 

[I_Love_Moms]

Hi
What game is the picture on your profile?

Summer’s Gone

 

[Bane71]

If you go in this route !! Also maybe in the near ... It could happen Ah !!

Can't wait for this event " Please with all due respect if you are not into this event Look away I thank you and don't comment"

Spoiler: Interesting in this special event S & D :) "Next" D &E hmm :)

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I understand those who like this route, but personally I consider it as a relationship between a boy and a MILF, not concentrating on the fact that it's mom and son.
I really like the level of his 3D skills, he also has great taste and high art class!
Just take a closer look at this render:

Firstly, it looks very realistic, like an artistic photo.
Secondly, it is a subtle piquant moment that causes excitement and awakens fantasy and lustful desires. And there are a lot of such moments in the game.
Thirdly, look at how the details are drawn! How beautifully and with class Sophia's nails, her hand and jewelry on her hand are depicted.

When people say that the next released update is too small and the passage took very little time, then it surprises me a lot. Where are they looking and what do they see? Probably all the most interesting things pass by them.

After all, even if you do not read the text, then you want to consider only this one render for a long time and in detail. How exquisitely erotic he depicted Sophia's bra peeking out from under her dress, drawing attention to her breasts.

Nevertheless, L&P is an amazing master who has a fine sense of eroticism and knows how to create erotic images that awaken a riot of fantasy and desire. That's probably why even those who don't appreciate him and don't understand him are still here and are so looking forward to the continuation of his story.

 

[new_user!]

Hey guys,was there really a post on Patreon,the update can be out in April?
Or I was hallucinating?

Yes, there was his answer to the question where he mentioned the month of April. As usual, no one believed him.
Perhaps he will say that these are collective hallucinations and he did not say that.

 

[Blurpee69]

Anything that leads to more complications in the immediate surroundings of Sophia can ultimately make the story more interesting.

So again, not to take away from Dylan enthusiasts, just posting my own personal thoughts.

If we're sticking with side story idea then they should be more spread out, right now Dylan is the character the story has focused on the most other than Sophia, and two of Sophia's story's are also directly tied to Dylan. If the PoV is going to switch to other characters, maybe have shorter side stories for all of Sophia's family members; Liam, Dylan, Patricia, and Ellie can all have short little side stories we could cut to, to help influence their characters a bit. I'm not a particularly huge fan of this idea, but for other people that aren't as into Dylan then it makes thing bareable.

There are more creative ways for complications to arrise, while still keeping the focus on Sophia. For example Liam. If Sophia primarily ignores him, he gets that lustful look during the wedding gown scene and we can make a choice for him. Have more of those little flit aways. That's a good way of still influencing the others and how their stories are playing out, while keeping the story primarily focused on Sophia.

Or add in some more variables like Dylan cuck and Ellie Bitch so that the choices Sophia makes influence the behavior of the other characters. Then we only have to leave Sophia for a couple of renders just to get the implication that whether Sophia is intending it or not, she's influecing Dylan / Liam into Cuckholdry or swinging or whatever other variable. An example for this is Dylan; say a couple of times in part one Sophia will be doing something with Dylan then switch to Sam as soon as he enters the picture. This causes Dylan to start building those cuckhold points, so when we get the to scene with Claire at the salon, if Dylan has lets say > 5 cuckhold he won't say anything when he catches Devon staring, but if it's between 2 and 5 he'll mention it, but avert his eyes or otherwise show some sort of submissiveness to Devon, < 2 and he'll jump up and be angry that Devon is perving. All of that can be done without ever giving Dylan PoV. Same for Ellie and Patricia have a couple different variables for them as well let them have a bitch variable and lesbian variable for example.

 

[Bane71]

So again, not to take away from Dylan enthusiasts, just posting my own personal thoughts.

If we're sticking with side story idea then they should be more spread out, right now Dylan is the character the story has focused on the most other than Sophia, and two of Sophia's story's are also directly tied to Dylan. If the PoV is going to switch to other characters, maybe have shorter side stories for all of Sophia's family members; Liam, Dylan, Patricia, and Ellie can all have short little side stories we could cut to, to help influence their characters a bit. I'm not a particularly huge fan of this idea, but for other people that aren't as into Dylan then it makes thing bareable.

There are more creative ways for complications to arrise, while still keeping the focus on Sophia. For example Liam. If Sophia primarily ignores him, he gets that lustful look during the wedding gown scene and we can make a choice for him. Have more of those little flit aways. That's a good way of still influencing the others and how their stories are playing out, while keeping the story primarily focused on Sophia.

Or add in some more variables like Dylan cuck and Ellie Bitch so that the choices Sophia makes influence the behavior of the other characters. Then we only have to leave Sophia for a couple of renders just to get the implication that whether Sophia is intending it or not, she's influecing Dylan / Liam into Cuckholdry or swinging or whatever other variable. An example for this is Dylan; say a couple of times in part one Sophia will be doing something with Dylan then switch to Sam as soon as he enters the picture. This causes Dylan to start building those cuckhold points, so when we get the to scene with Claire at the salon, if Dylan has lets say > 5 cuckhold he won't say anything when he catches Devon staring, but if it's between 2 and 5 he'll mention it, but avert his eyes or otherwise show some sort of submissiveness to Devon, < 2 and he'll jump up and be angry that Devon is perving. All of that can be done without ever giving Dylan PoV. Same for Ellie and Patricia have a couple different variables for them as well let them have a bitch variable and lesbian variable for example.

I like your comments, they are relevant. To improve this mechanics of character relationships on different routes, L&P needs helpers. I think it's just very difficult for one person to cope with the whole mass of tasks, and that's why we see various shortcomings.

 

[Blurpee69]

I like your comments, they are relevant. To improve this mechanics of character relationships on different routes, L&P needs helpers. I think it's just very difficult for one person to cope with the whole mass of tasks, and that's why we see various shortcomings.

L&P is clearly very talented, and I would even say enthusiastic even if perhaps that's not the general consensus on this site. I think he could just use a person to bounce ideas off of, or to help keep the story a little more focused. It's always good to have a sounding board or two, espcially when creative works start to become larger in scope like AWAM has. Perhaps he already has these, I don't know what L&P's methodology is so I can't really speak one way or the other. If he is entirely by himself, aside from a translator, then he may not even realize how far the focus has shifted.

I don't follow him on Patreon so I don't know what his feedback looks like, I'm only making my case based on what I see in this forum. Maybe the majority of his Patreons are encouraging more Dylan content like what we've been getting. Certainly seems that way based on the polls that keep getting screenshots posted here. Ellie got a pretty decent chunk of story dedicated to her right before part one ended, so maybe it will come back around, or switch to Patricia. I don't know what the roadmap looks like.