Sadowdark

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The point is that Sam has gone from being a crybaby "I can't sleep if I can't see your boobs" to a suddenly mature man who, with his sudden new personality (Rembrandt, best kisser ever, … ) makes Sophia seem so stupid that you have to assume a role reversal! Sam the mature adult and Sophia the horny stupid 16 year old girl who must helplessly look up to Sam.
L&P exaggerated without measure. He didn't even finish with everything that Sam suddenly is and can do now. That's why I think the Sophia/Sam update is a senseless story that can't be taken seriously.
:ROFLMAO:You forgot one thing Sam became half man because even at the sight of Sophia naked he didn't have an erection
 
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tofhdns

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Is the reason for this vote to be reflected in the story?

Sam, Dylan, Ellie, Aiden, Ava Meyer's children.

Ellie alone is enough for lesbian content.

So I hope the game will get back on track as soon as possible, as the result of the vote.
 

Alley_Cat

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wouldn't surprise me if I'm missing an event as L&P has choices setup in a way it's so easy to miss stuff, but what event are you referring to? I haven't seen a Patricia event in ages, can't even remember the last Patricia event I saw.
The last Patricia event was the second half of the Yoga event. The shower with Sophia, Patricia, Claire and Marie.

If you chose the Alyssa event with Antonio, then you'd miss it. Or not have the Patricia points
 

Romazeo

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He literally said that no gym scenes in nearest future. It also can mean no night club, museum and spa scenes, where Patricia can slowly corrupt Sophia to go out with guys (for god sake, not old men).
And probably we"ll see this in the novel of fans who dares to continue the story, really speed up it and make close to awaited sex scenes.
 

rAmSiMaL

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He literally said that no gym scenes in nearest future. It also can mean no night club, museum and spa scenes, where Patricia can slowly corrupt Sophia to go out with guys (for god sake, not old men).
And probably we"ll see this in the novel of fans who dares to continue the story, really speed up it and make close to awaited sex scenes.
Define near future… To reach to museum guys which is the end of PD 14 we need 2.5 years… and we are talking about 1.5 PDs… To reach to the much expected PD 16 and the heavy hetero scene we need at best 5 YEARS… to conclude the game with the current pace we need at least 30 YEARS… It’s a lifetime game
 

SophiaMelinda

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April update is not happening at this pace. June is more likely.
I'd prefer he takes the extra time but gives more content every update.
Any idea as to how Dylan and Sophia scene will go in the next update? Like that little idea Dylan had to test his mother or something else entirely?
 

hzjujk

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Sam is one of the most inconsistent characters in this game for me right now.
When Sophia first becomes aware that Sam is interested in her, she overhears a conversation that Dylan and Sam are having. Sam uses the sometimes vulgar and degrading language of teenagers to express how hot and sexy he finds Sophia. Later, we will only see a selectively polite and flattering Sam.

Sophia asks for water and Sam brings her alcohol. Sophia's reaction to this is moderate. Although she knows that Sam's goal is to make her compliant, the whole thing remains almost without reflection (perhaps because Elli tries the same trick?).

In the event at Jacusszi, of all places, the end of this scene continues the route in which Sam shits on the consequences of a discovery by Liam for Sophia. He simply doesn't care about the consequences at all, because for him they would be minimal.

When Sophia and Sam are almost caught in Sam's room by Sam's father Neil, Sophia says:
*I just have this remorse about cheating on my husband."
"I love him very much, but he just barely finds time for me lately."
To which Sam replies:
"Yeah, I understand. You just need time, I think."
Again, the impression is that Sam doesn't really care about Sophia's feelings and conflicts at all, just like the Jacuzzi event. And again, no reflection on Sophia's part. On the contrary, only if one continues, and agrees that Sophia lets herself be drawn "completely" naked, the route continues.

When Julia almost enters the room, Sam says the following:
"How was I supposed to know that my sister was probably on her period right now?! She's never just stormed into my room like that before!"
Sam makes a direct connection between a woman's menstrual period and her mental abilities. As a woman, friend of Julia and as a teacher, Sophia should have objected here. But also this sentence does not lead to any reaction, neither in the game nor in a reflection by Sophia. In contrast, it is necessary to kiss Sam goodbye in order to continue the route.

What bothers me about this is:
a) I am interpreting something here that doesn't exist and Sam is just a teenager who makes mistakes and Sophia, although with more life experience is just in love. And L&P wants to show that?

b) Are these hidden hints to make the player aware that Sam has an ugly side and one should be careful with his decisions? Then why don't they have any consequences in the game.

c) Do these sayings simply express L&P's own attitude towards women? (I know this question is insulting, sorry!)

d) Why do I actually collect sympathy points for the individual characters, if the decisions to continue a route are only yes-no decisions.
 

sAs14

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всем здрасти. вопрос мой может и глупый а где искать как заменить ? - Если вам не нравятся искаженные изображения низкого качества, вы можете просто вставить и заменить изображения HQ из версии 0.150, 0.160, 0.161, 0.165, 0.170, 0.175, 0.180 . как это можно сделать будьте любезны поподробнее описать как можно заменить! заранее спасибо!
 
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Again, the impression is that Sam doesn't really care about Sophia's feelings and conflicts at all
I've said it before and I'll say it again, s@m doesn't love Sophia, he's just an horny teenager/POS looking to fuck her because he finds her attractive, the way he talks to Dylan about Sophia in his room when Sophia is listening in, pissed me off so much that if I was Dylan I would have punched him in the face, I avoid everything with him because his path makes no sense whatsoever, we're only 13 days into the playable days and look how far he's been able to go with her, and why? Why would Sophia even have any feelings for him? He did absolutely nothing for her, ok so he mowed the lawn, great! He helped her with the groceries, fantastic! None of these things should have her fall for him, it makes zero sense, 13 days in... you could even say he's a stranger to her, and out of nowhere she trusts him and lets him draw her completely naked and agrees to become his secret girlfriend? Jesus christ, young me wishes things were that easy, but they're not, s@ms storyline feels extremely forced and I just can't get into it, and I'm sure many other players feel the exact same way I do about it.
 
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Paco Loco

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Interesting...

I still have a save with a open path to the subway thugs but since that was supposedly scrapped by the dev, I don't even remember where it is. Hell, that route was from even before the pandemic!

On the other side, doesn't make much sense to bring back the subway thugs after all this time and don't even mention the Morello's and Bennet's path, because their routes are still active. :unsure:
 

hzjujk

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, s@m doesn't love Sophia, he's just an horny teenager/POS looking to fuck her because he finds her attractive, the way he talks to Dylan about Sophia in his room when Sophia is listening in, pissed me off so much that if I was Dylan I would have punched him in the face, I avoid everything with him because his path makes no sense whatsoever, we're only 13 days into the playable days and look how far he's been able to go with her, and why? Why would Sophia even have any feelings for him? He did absolutely nothing for her, ok so he mowed the lawn, great! He helped her with the groceries, fantastic! None of these things should have her fall for him, it makes zero sense, 13 days in... you could even say he's a stranger to her, and out of nowhere she trusts him and lets him draw her completely naked and agrees to become his secret girlfriend? Jesus christ, young me wishes things were that easy, but they're not, s@ms storyline feels extremely forced and I just can't get into it, and I'm sure many other players feel the exact same way I do about it.
It's a porn game, so it's legitimate for me to overdraw the characters and the paths in it. Sam is a romantic route, with the thrill of the great age difference and the wife's betrayal of the husband.
I myself have already expressed my incomprehension about Sam's successes with Sophia, which are mainly based on the fact that Sam was written as a kind of superman, against whom I would simply be pale and without a chance if he existed in real life.
I'm willing to accept this on a romantic route though, because other game developers do it the same way very often.
But L&P builds these little and big slips into Sam's character and his journey with Sophia. Only these remain without consequences. I like to follow the clues in a game to justify my decisions regarding the game's MC. But on the Sam route, I feel like all of Sam's little meanties exist only in my head and L&P didn't mean it that way
I think this is the same for other players on other routes, but this is my Waterloo.
 

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**At the moment**:
  • Ava and the apostles are raising among the preferences along with Julia and Marie (not so coincidentally they had multiple or very recent events since 2020)
  • Amber is regaining popularity along with Mr Murray (!!) and, obviously, Sam, even though he is not yet at the same level as 2020
  • Dylan is still leading but Ellie has basically closed the gap at the second place. They both lost quite a lot of votes wrt 2020, especially Dylan.
  • Patricia ( :cry: ), Alyssa ( :cry: ), Vicky, Emma and the Subway Thugs have consistently lost support as well. Cathy was a new entry in 2021 and lost as well a bit.
  • Aiden is still 4th with minimum loss.
  • Zac is substantially stable and so are Logan, Christine, Claire, Nathalie (even if she gained a bit) and Liam.
  • The old gents after their moment of glory in the v0.130 are back to 2020 levels.
  • Janitor Clark and the movers seems to be settled on 2021 values, so has Carl.
Let's see if there are surprises coming, especially in Ellie and Dylan's race for the first position. Too close to call, as John King would say! ;)
 
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