Nikeweber

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It's so boring this project, it takes away all the hype built, so many development, i just don't care anymore of the project. Poor donors. i'm not following the odissey thread, but man... this is enough.
 
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hzjujk

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It's so boring this project, it takes away all the hype built, so many development, i just don't care anymore of the project. Poor donors. i'm not following the odissey thread, but man... this is enough.
Member since 2018, it must have been really important to you to dedicate your second post to this game. Thank you for describing your emotional state.
 

tofhdns

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Jan 25, 2021
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Member since 2018, it must have been really important to you to dedicate your second post to this game. Thank you for describing your emotional state.
I played games on this site without an account for several years, and out of curiosity, I created an account, but I didn't engage in forum activities, and this forum is the first one where I wrote a post a few months ago.

And everyone has a "first", and you're no exception.
 
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I left the game after where Sophia got groped by Aiden's friend outside. Has there been any significant development after that about main character Sophia ?

and are developers of the game incest / pedo or something ? why they only force people about dylan ? as if it is impossible to put an normal adult character for Sophia to interact ?
 
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McZoy

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I'd say it's closer to 40 years. If each day averages 10 events, ('some will be smaller but some could be larger'....thought I'd say that, even though it's self-evident, before somebody else says it), with each event taking the time they are now, i.e. 2-3 months, it could average 2 & a half years for each playable day. That's not counting animations, mini-games, polls, gradually redrafting the earlier PDs of AWAM, progressing DoL, sorting the game out to be acceptable for Steam, any as yet unused delaying tactics, or the latest activity announced by the Dev, of bringing the number of Dylan's scenarios to a par with Sophia's. [AWAM now requires a "male protagonist" tag for the real MC].

I'm aware there are fans who relish the idea, or couldn't care less. Hopefully the majority will be alive in 40 years time to discover whether they still feel the same. It's more likely that reality, (or something), will kick in at some point, because believing this will continue in the same old style for another 40 years, is itself a fantasy but not an erotic one.
AWAM will never be finished because in maybe even less than 5-10 years will be outdated completely. I do not know many things regarding game development but I have the feeling that L&P is not full time Dev anymore. The continuity of the game has been lost and events out of no where and without any sense has been added like the school threesome and Sophia's groping from Aiden's friends. I do not expect from an adult game to be fully realistic but the latter was absolute stupidity. In any case it still remains one of the best adult VN around.
 

PaxHadrian17

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AWAM will never be finished because in maybe even less than 5-10 years will be outdated completely. I do not know many things regarding game development but I have the feeling that L&P is not full time Dev anymore. The continuity of the game has been lost and events out of no where and without any sense has been added like the school threesome and Sophia's groping from Aiden's friends. I do not expect from an adult game to be fully realistic but the latter was absolute stupidity. In any case it still remains one of the best adult VN around.
It is not like he will be penalized by the AVN Guild for failing to complete AWAM. He can opt for the 'take the money and run' scenario.

I think the Steam release will soak up significant time if he is trying to do it right. He could release it as 'Season 1' and then sell the 'franchise' to another creator based on how well he did on Steam combined with average monthly earnings for the last X months.

As it stands - AWAM has longevity as an idea but not as an AVN. How many saves get broken with minor updates to Renpy let alone whole number Renpy updates; what kind of hardware investment will he need to make the upgrade to 1080p, 1440, and eventually 2K for resolution? This is not needed to be competitive now but given AWAM's 25+ years or more until completion, L&P will have to invest in the hardware for the upgrades.

What kind of fidelity will be needed for animations that 'pop' and are competitive with top tier AVNs in 10 years? 20 years?

What about the creators who are embedding voice over into animations using AI?

We're already seeing a major influx of AVNs using AI for image creation. These images are nowhere near as good as those in top tier AVNs, but I could see AI assists in the next 5-10 years (for example, take an image and - using a series of predictive motions based on instructions to the AI, add in motion like turning the heads of characters to follow another character who is moving or as different characters talk. This would be akin to taking a .jpeg image and turning it into a .gif file based on canned instructions AI programmers will sell as mods to Daz and other image creation software).

How will this impact AWAM's ability to stay competitive.

The story used to be a major part of AWAM's competitiveness but that is no longer the case as L&P has tried to cater to so many different parts of his fan base that the story is effectively broken as a cohesive work. It is now just a series of related vignettes, due in part to the huge slow down in development speed.

Milfy City was one of my favorite AVNs when it came out but, when you compare it's graphics to top tier AVNs now? It is no longer a top tier creation. AWAM is heading for this same result unless L&P invests major $ in hardware and team building since he will be trying to increase speed of development while he redoes the early parts of AWAM - and we all know how well L&P does with team building...

When will L&P have to declare a lock on AWAM part 2 and then make the major upgrades to start part 3? Who will be performing the remaster of both parts 1 & 2 while part 3 has moved on to higher resolutions, more complex animations and some level of AI assist?

How many of us will be labeled 'Rats' for telling the truth to someone who does not want to/is unable to adapt?
 

Oliver Wendell Homely

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IS IT ONLY ME OR INTEREST IN THIS GAME FROM PEOPLE IS DECLINING UPDATE TO UPDATE
Plenty of games on this site go ages between updates, but for various reasons AWAM and L&P have really attracted the ire of the self-proclaimed "anti-milking" brigade and others who seem to think L&P owe them something. While some of them are perhaps former patrons who have grown bitter, others seem to think throwing anonymous tantrums here will yield positive results.
 

palmtrees89

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I left the game after where Sophia got groped by Aiden's friend outside. Has there been any significant development after that about main character Sophia ?

and are developers of the game incest / pedo or something ? why they only force people about dylan ? as if it is impossible to put an normal adult character for Sophia to interact ?
No significant development. There's only been 5(?) events after the one you mentioned in your post, and we're still on the same playable day. The game is simply not progressing anymore with the way L&P is developing it in recent years.

Regarding the "pedo" / incest content, I'd say L&P is indeed focusing more on such events, but the main issue is, as stated above, the terribly slow development of the game which makes a couple events revolving around those children feel like an eternity as we have to wait years for other (adult) characters to show up again.

This unfortunately adds to the feeling of there only being content involving children as a couple events take L&P a year or more to release, and this entire playable day consists only of this kinda stuff. We might get lucky in a year from now...or maybe not.
 

palmtrees89

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Plenty of games on this site go ages between updates, but for various reasons AWAM and L&P have really attracted the ire of the self-proclaimed "anti-milking" brigade and others who seem to think L&P owe them something. While some of them are perhaps former patrons who have grown bitter, others seem to think throwing anonymous tantrums here will yield positive results.
You, just like someone else a couple days ago, completely ignore the amount of content delivered here.

Example:

- Developer A releases 1 render every single day for 6 months, resulting in a total of ~180 renders
- Developer B releases 800 renders after a 6 month development cycle in a single update

You somehow act like Developer A is the real deal.

Plenty of games on this site go ages between updates, but for various reasons AWAM and L&P have really attracted the ire of the self-proclaimed "anti-milking" brigade and others who seem to think L&P owe them something.
This part in particular is exactly what L&P was aiming for when he switched from 1/3rd PD releases every 5-6 months to single event (1/10th PD) releases back in 2022. Gullible people who think that this means more content and more story progression when infact he's gotten slower by another ~30%, releasing WAY less renders per year overall than any year prior to the switch. Wake up.

This ain't about L&P owing me or anyone anything either. It's just what it is. Facts.
 
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