VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[GingerSweetGirl]

Even though fashion business does technically have all this, it has never gone out of the way portrayed it in a disturbing manner. MC almost always engages in sex with consent even though she does not like it. She does because having sex with the person will give her an advantage or a better position to regain her power and move out of the dump not because she is being forced or has no choice

This is not the ringing endorsement you may think it is. Is it too much to ask that we should have fewer games that put women into this position? Do we need games that set women up for unpleasant sexual encounters; and then justify it with flimsy logic to avoid accusations of rape? "She wasn't forced to fuck him, she wanted to get _______ and used sex as a tool to achieve it even though she hated every second of it and took no pleasure in the experience." Like, really? Do we really want Sophia to have unenjoyable sex that is coerced from her? But that's the problem with blackmail stories, right? Either the woman grows to enjoy it which breaks the tension, or she gets coerced into sex and the game finds any excuse to justify it as not rape.

None of this is meant as an accusation of you Sabertooth__ , you're just stating a fact. It's just super frustrating that this is a well known trope in adult games. It happens over, and over, and over again. Putting aside all the ethical implications, it's just lazy writing at this point. I hope AWAM does something new with Aiden, but I'm already wavering in my support. If we get a situation where Sophia fucks Aiden and we get nothing but shots if her unhappy face and inner monologue of her saying "it's ok that I chose this. I'm doing it for Dylan. I just need to get through this. I hate Aiden. I hate that this feels good. God I'm so sorry Liam." I'll fucking puke.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Poor Liam, i should vote for him

Are you ok, Farrah? Did you hit your head on something? Do you need First Aid?

 

[nexer]

We need to check how far the two routes Morello and Aiden are connected.
If they are independent something else must be found to get rid of Aiden.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

This concerns me with this storyline based on Aiden's background of being a criminal, his uncle, and other things. It's painted his image this way, and he is not a simple "bully" as others would like to think because they read the word "bully." Sophia even went to the police to file a blackmail report about Aiden. The cop even told her about Aiden and his gang activities and how it was almost impossible to influence the outcome with Aiden. She even mentions his gang activities during her thoughts in different parts of the novel.

If the comfortable solution is... Sophia stands up against him, after the reader chooses GW options during the modeling art scene, in that path, and Aiden backs down from the blackmail because Sophia took a stand. That, IMO, would be bad. This would be bad because that would destroy Aiden's character as Dev painted him. It will kill his story even if you went forward with it if you choose the filthy options. It would be like "the twist/deal" all over again.

And of course, these are my thoughts and speculations only.

I would see it less about destroying his character and more about Sophia establishing hers. That would be a good thing for the game.

From a practical standpoint, this branching path is going to cause a nightmare. If you end the Aiden path you're basically committing yourself to significantly less content in future updates. Not for one or two updates but for something like eight updates.

 

[Taramuss]

Hi there just one Question is there a way to get to 54 points for Dylan cause it´s needed after the Art event.
or is exist still a way how much points in relations i have?

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[GingerSweetGirl]

Hi there just one Question is there a way to get to 54 points for Dylan cause it´s needed after the Art event.

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It's a glitch. Use the cheats

 

[xxxorro]

I love to see some toys being introduced for the tasks in the class, like plugs or small vibes.

Another thing that we are I guess ignoring or maybe I'm wrong here but isn't it possible that we are on the Aiden route but Liam does not lose at the casino and Sophia brings him back home.

In this case they never met Morello so making him a solution can't be possible. There will be the route where Sophia is doing Aiden's tasks and never met Morello.
The solution has to be something else then.

We need to check how far the two routes Morello and Aiden are connected.
If they are independent something else must be found to get rid of Aiden.

Yes they are independent, you can only get Morello if Sophia leaves the casino without Liam, either because she's tired or she goes to the club (which can only happen if she said she's not married to the sauna guys)
So you can have Aiden and Morello, or only one of the 2 paths.

 

[Old Dog]

I would see it less about destroying his character and more about Sophia establishing hers. That would be a good thing for the game.

From a practical standpoint, this branching path is going to cause a nightmare. If you end the Aiden path you're basically committing yourself to significantly less content in future updates. Not for one or two updates but for something like eight updates.

It would be good to see a more stronger/confident/assertive Sophia emerge from all of this with or without Liam

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

I would see it less about destroying his character and more about Sophia establishing hers. That would be a good thing for the game.

From a practical standpoint, this branching path is going to cause a nightmare. If you end the Aiden path you're basically committing yourself to significantly less content in future updates. Not for one or two updates but for something like eight updates.

I would have to disagree. It would destroy it because of the way Aiden was portrayed, and the story was drafted in such a way that Aiden could literally do anything and get away with it and... If the solution is Sophia will stand up against him, then the lead-up of Aiden background would be for nothing and it would fall apart.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

It would be good to see a more stronger/confident/assertive Sophia emerge from all of this with or without Liam

I'm all for Sophia becoming "stronger/confident/assertive," but it's about how she arrived at that point.

 

[Old Dog]

I'm all for Sophia becoming "stronger/confident/assertive," but it's about how she arrived at that point.

Or breaks at that point

 

[Taramuss]

GingerSweetGirl sry for stupid question : there is a Cheat?

 

[Old Dog]

GingerSweetGirl sry for stupid question : there is a Cheat?

Click on the heart(once in the game)top right corner

 

[Taramuss]

Click on the heart(once in the game)top right corner

Omg never known it thy

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

We need to check how far the two routes Morello and Aiden are connected.
If they are independent something else must be found to get rid of Aiden.

Patricia has a Deagle! Hmmmm, not like she is reticent in its use.

 

[hzjujk]

If that is still valid what the KillJoys picked out in this email from L&P, the fans of blackmail stories will definitely win (not excitement, just a little joke).
It is also interesting that the Patreon rules prohibit incest and Shota but do not prohibit sexual humiliation and sexual blackmail of women. The political correctness of an American company does not go that far.
As for the further path of Sophia with Aiden, there is no real choice where the story ends after the 12 tasks. Sophia will be a different person. The only question is what we, the players, are telling us what spirit this other Sophia is. For me she will either be a submissive broken woman who loves sex or a woman in love (in Aiden) who loves sex or something in between. Both horrific ideas for me.
A dominant woman who still has a life of her own, loves sex and chooses her sex partner independently, I do not see this end of the 12 tasks on this path.
If the last event hadn't been so hot I would finish the Aiden Route now. But my Filthy points are at least as high as Sophia's.

 

[roro]

Yes Indeed it should be interesting but it is also a little off putting for me. The fact that doing Aiden's task becomes a voluntary choice of Sophia dulls down the storyline for me. If this the only blackmail storyline it should have a pressure to do the tasks till the end. All other storylines already offer Sophia the liberty to do things voluntarily.
Also I kinda fear what Extremes are we talking off. It would also really suck if all the slow burn till now just suddenly starts taking leaps. Personally speaking it would make me feel that what was the point of the slow burn if it was all supposed to start taking jumps in the corruption.

I generally just don't care for the MC characters in the corruption games and only make the filthy choices but with Sophia I do care and that's why I guess it kinda makes me sad that the sudden progression might actually make her just like the other MC's in such games who will just go all the way on every route and I will stop caring for the character and the story.

I just don't want that to happen but L&P's recent post that you put here and the last update really makes me feel that it will happen. L&P does not look like he is wanting to take any steps back but instead keep going more and more extreme.

My interpretation of his post is slightly different. I don't think Aiden tasks will become voluntary to Sophia. She may have an option to end it, but it may have some consequences, so if she chooses no to end it I don't think it's because she likes it, but because she thinks it wasn't that bad until now. Maybe later when it becomes unbearable for her, this opportunity to end Aidens task is lost, and she is forced to continue.

 

[roro]

Aiden's tasks are not supposed to be that extreme/violent but I do wonder at times what L&P definition of extreme is.
So I guess form the 4th task onwards we will get our answer.

He never said the 4th task will be extreme...

 

[Devilrebel]

How do one go about using cheats on the Android version? Asking for a friend.

 

[Old Dog]

He never said the 4th task will be extreme...

L&P has said that the tasks themselves will not be that extreme but what is L&P definition of extreme.
Also the way that he wrote this post does leave it open to interpretation.
4th paragraph down

This is an old post so I don't know how it stands now.