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Jude6

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Can anyone explain to me how come that after reducing the update to 1/3 of the day instead of half a day, it's still takes around 5 months every time?
There's no way to know for certain because the developer gets too defensive about it to ever really examine it for himself - but everyone's got their theories.

My theory:
There's an expression 'A goldfish will get as big as the bowl if you let it' - literally meaning that a goldfish can just keep getting bigger/fatter if you keep feeding it just a little too much every day.
At some point in 2018 L&P got to a development speed where it was taking him 6 months for a single, Whole-Day update - for multiple updates in a row.
His fans complained about the long wait between new content - which he interpreted as fans wanting more of the game, even if the trade-off for that speed is a smaller update with fewer scenes. So he moved to Half-Day updates.

But - now we get to the Goldfish analogy - after a while putting out Half-Day updates at a faster rate, L&P started to reason that he can expand the content a little... since he's got the time.
"There's so few scenes in this update, maybe I'll just fill out this scene with a few extra renders, just a handful. Oh but now the next scene is so short in comparison I should pad it out with a few extra renders as well. Oh but now I look at it - I should throw out and re-do the renders for this whole sequence because the lighting doesn't look quite right, I've got the time after-all it's only a Half-Day update."

That's how we ended up with Half-Day updates that took ~6 months to make.

Then... wouldn't you know it, his fans complained about the long wait. He interpreted this as fans wanting more of the game, again at a trade-off of smaller updates, so he moved to One-Third-Day updates.
And the cycle repeated itself.

There are early game days with around 500 renders total.
The current game day will finish somewhere just shy of 3000 renders.

There are lots of people here and elsewhere on the Internet that are unhappy with this and voice their complaints every chance they get - but their voices will never carry the same weight as his paying Patrons (understandably so), and the paying Patrons love the bigger updates and praise him for his huge, massive, girthy... render count. Think of them as the ones sprinkling goldfish food into the bowl.
He has paying Patrons who complain about update bloat and want him to work faster, I was one of them, but those complaints are isolated voices, drowned out by the other more positive supporters. Paying Patrons who complain and see that their complaints are ignored eventually stop paying, meaning L&P's Patrons are always going to be majority in support of his slower work.

So he keeps taking steps to put the game out 'Faster' - that actually result in the ending of the game getting further and further away.

At some point in the future (to be honest I think it'll be soon) he'll announce that he's moving to Quarter-Day Updates.
Then a year or two after that he'll announce that Quarter-Day updates are taking too long and he's switching to Single-Event Updates.
Then, a year or two after that, when his Patrons are waiting 6 months for a Single-Event Update that contains 800 renders - I'm hoping that will be the final straw and even his most loyal paying Patrons will speak up about wanting him to make real changes to his development process.
 

Bishop Robert

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You know what? If Sophia were to blow Sam, I'd just take it and be happy.

But I'm aware the most this will be would be titty fondling (maybe sucking).

If this is just a kiss it better be some suggestive/intimate kissing, if its just a peck then screw this storyline.
 
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I_Love_Moms

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The game is going slow, with a lot of time betwen updates, and still one of 3 best games in F95 by far, even without sex yet.
It's not one of the best, but one of the most popular in terms of views and engagement. When there's so much gap between updates, people have to kill time somehow, so they "discuss stuff," which increases engagement and popularity. User Rating, according to me, is the best parameter to measure if a game is good. Not saying that this one is bad though.
 
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Bishop Robert

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I've never seen this before (I think, its been awhile) I am replaying and any time someone is doing something or saying something regarding Sophia and Dylan is there where I made him do nothing in any occasion.

Now after showing Dylan her breast, Dylan told her what people say about her and it made her go on to think even one line: (With their young, hard cocks surrounding me, and everyone waiting till it's his turn.)

Is this exclusive to Dylan not saying or doing anything in certain circumstances?
 

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I'm surprised: you are the romantic type! :)
I think L&P will let Sam get as far on this day as at the other events on that day. For me that means bare breasts and, as with Aiden, only voluntarily, a little breast massage. We cannot expect more whether Liam calls or not.
I'm not interested in the Sam / Sophia romantic route. I mean a romantic route ?! How many other games are there that follow such a path. For me, the Sam / Sophia route is like the Good-Wife route at the moment. I know that some people are looking forward to it, but for me this is totally boring at the moment.
Even the second romantic route, Alyssa / Sophia, is more interesting. Alyssa will bring a suitcase full of add-ons for Antonio from her business trip.
The reason why I haven't given up on the Sam route is, on the one hand, the question of whether Sam still proves himself to be the true son of his father. Also how L&P wants to tell the situation when Dylan and Sam realize that they have a relationship with each other's mother and when there is no Dylan / amber relationship, how the situation develops when Liam / Dylan / Elli about the love between Sophia and Sam experienced (Elli will probably not be a problem).
I am a romantic concerning my precious and Sophia yes :)
 

Bishop Robert

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I'm aware this is old, sorry.

So i'm updating my routes and stuff, and noticed in my (Alyssa, 2nd side job, Dylan-Emma) run there was no yoga event.

What exactly triggers the yoga event?
 

palmtrees89

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I'm aware this is old, sorry.

So i'm updating my routes and stuff, and noticed in my (Alyssa, 2nd side job, Dylan-Emma) run there was no yoga event.

What exactly triggers the yoga event?
The Yoga event is only triggered when you refuse Alyssa's offer to buy Sophia a dress on their shopping tour. If you agree, Sophia will stay in the dress and goes for a coffee with Alyssa where she offers Sophia to visit her place (and meet Antonio).

You might actually be able to still get the dress and go to Yoga aswell if you refuse to stay in the new dress, but I can't exactly remember.
 
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Bishop Robert

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The Yoga event is only triggered when you refuse Alyssa's offer to buy Sophia a dress on their shopping tour. If you agree, Sophia will stay in the dress and goes for a coffee with Alyssa where she offers Sophia to visit her place (and meet Antonio).

You might actually be able to still get the dress and go to Yoga aswell if you refuse to stay in the new dress, but I can't exactly remember.
Or is it just choosing spending time with Alyssa over Ellie that causes it maybe?
 

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Or is it just choosing spending time with Alyssa over Ellie that causes it maybe?
I think Patricia is calling Sophia when you leave the shop with Alyssa, giving you a choice between Alyssa(Antonio event), or Patricia(Yoga event). But if I remember correctly, this choice is only available if you don't stay in the dress Alyssa bought for Sophia. Like, Alyssa can buy the dress but you have to refuse staying in it. Otherwise you won't get to choose between Yoga and Antonio.

Edit: Turns out you have to completely refuse Alyssa's offer to buy the dress to be able to get the Yoga event. Here's what the walkthrough says: "Sophia and Alyssa will go shopping and Alyssa finally asks Sophia to try out a sundress for her. If Sophia refuses, their day ends and she drives to the yoga class with Patricia. If she tries it on, Alyssa offers her to buy it for her but only on the condition that she stays in it. If Sophia refuses, their day ends and she drives to the yoga class with Patricia. If Sophia stays in the sexy sundress, she will automatically refuse going to yoga to her sister. Instead Sophia and Alyssa will have a coffee where Alyssa shows Sophia a stimulation she didn’t know before. Afterwards, Alyssa offers her to go back to her place where Sophia can persistently ask Alyssa about her new boyfriend, Antonio. Then Alyssa will introduce her to him but he’s not what Sophia actually expected."

Edit2: Spending time with Ellie or Alyssa doesn't have an impact on the Yoga event. Both routes lead to the Yoga event, unless you decide to visit Alyssa's place on the Alyssa route as explained above. (Sorry, this is kinda confusing lol)
 
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I think Patricia is calling Sophia when you leave the shop with Alyssa, giving you a choice between Alyssa(Antonio event), or Patricia(Yoga event). But if I remember correctly, this choice is only available if you don't stay in the dress Alyssa bought for Sophia. Like, Alyssa can buy the dress but you have to refuse staying in it. Otherwise you won't get to choose between Yoga and Antonio.

Edit: Turns out you have to completely refuse Alyssa's offer to buy the dress to be able to get the Yoga event. Here's what the walkthrough says: "Sophia and Alyssa will go shopping and Alyssa finally asks Sophia to try out a sundress for her. If Sophia refuses, their day ends and she drives to the yoga class with Patricia. If she tries it on, Alyssa offers her to buy it for her but only on the condition that she stays in it. If Sophia refuses, their day ends and she drives to the yoga class with Patricia. If Sophia stays in the sexy sundress, she will automatically refuse going to yoga to her sister. Instead Sophia and Alyssa will have a coffee where Alyssa shows Sophia a stimulation she didn’t know before. Afterwards, Alyssa offers her to go back to her place where Sophia can persistently ask Alyssa about her new boyfriend, Antonio. Then Alyssa will introduce her to him but he’s not what Sophia actually expected."

Edit2: Spending time with Ellie or Alyssa doesn't have an impact on the Yoga event. Both routes lead to the Yoga event, unless you decide to visit Alyssa's place on the Alyssa route as explained above. (Sorry, this is kinda confusing lol)
Odd way to hide an event.

Thank you and 50 blessings.
 
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According to patreon, L&P used to be a student with part-time job before reaching the goals listed on his patreon page.

Goal 3 of 4 - "I'll quit my side job so I can spend even more time developing the game!
Furthermore, I'll try to hire someone to help me out with the project!"

Goal 4 of 4 - "AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If this high goal is really achieved someday:
I cancel all my college courses and devote all my time to my passion of (adult) game development!
I'll give my hardware a massive "face-lift", primarily to render faster and switch from 720p to 1080p quality!
"

The final goal was reached in early spring this year I believe, so he's supposedly putting even more time into the development of the game. The results are questionable to say the least. lol
LOL. We need Talcum Powder to do a graph on how long it will take L&P to get his degree. Someone PM the Dev to ask if he is now working on his Masters or Doctorate . Seems like College should be behind him by now.

Edit: All you L&P homers are going to be so sad and mad when this game gets abandoned.
Edit: Including me
 
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