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Mertonus

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Jun 11, 2017
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this game has come really far since the rpgmaker version......:rolleyes:

Is it just me or were (don't think he changed them) the first days of the game way more risqué?

Like the roleplay as an eastern-European model and not giving a fuck about opening the door in a half-open bathrobe as well as quite openly flirting with the moving crew guys ?
 
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Kakato

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So no word when the animation will be released?
How much more time do you think that you can buy L&P?
Are you really Old Dog ?! Never thought I'd read something like that coming from you. What happened?! Did I miss an episode ?LOL

 
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Akhen101

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Yall are going to be so upset when he releases "0.160" with no animations and says that the animations "didn't work out as planned" or blames his imaginary animator.
1.60 is planned to have no animations. Been mentioned loads of time... No reason to poke the fire that is not there.
 

Pigeon lust

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this game has come really far since the rpgmaker version......:rolleyes:

Is it just me or were (don't think he changed them) the first days of the game way more risqué?

Like the roleplay as an eastern-European model and not giving a fuck about opening the door in a half-open bathrobe as well as quite openly flirting with the moving crew guys ?
If you think about it, the game has grown in general and the characters have grown, it just doesn't make sense without a team, at this rate, unfortunately, in 4 years we will get what we would get in 2 years with a command and management.
At first, he did a lot of cringe scenes, then he went into more eroticism, the render became more interesting, the characters in the scenes began to look more lively due to manipulations with poses.
Just remember the beginning of the game and a walk around the city when Asian boys looked at Sofia)))
 

jamdan

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I don't think he's "milking" in the same way I don't think Oceanlab is milking. They're both artists first, game developers 2nd. LP keeps finding new routes to make and new ways to render, like his latest thing with the god-rays and wanting to make the best animations in the history of the world. Next, he'll probably want cinematics or go crazy with the new volumetrics Daz added. Adding more routes is particularly bad, as LP himself has said he struggles with writing sometimes.

Whereas Ocean constantly remakes things because he wants the best things possible for his game. Not to mention he is making 2 games at once, and has redone them both and still remaking one of them. Another comparison is Enyo, he's remade False Hero about 10 times by now and has never made a deadline (I'm not joking). LP doesn't remake things, he just keeps adding more and more stuff that drags development down the rabbit hole.

I fully expect the animator to eventually leave, or more likely LP will get frustrated and fire them (like he supposedly already did to another helper or two). But speaking of remaking things, you have to re-render animations sometimes, and since LP is the one rendering them, I wouldn't be surprised if he is already remaking one of them, hence the animation progress not moving and the teaser delay.

So, I don't think he's milking. To me, milking = doing as little work as possible with intent to prolong the development process. Or not working at all, while still taking payments. LP does the opposite, he keeps adding more stuff to work on. But I don't think he is serious about completing the game either. He knows this current pace is completely unsustainable. Or if he doesn't, he has horrible awareness.

Either way, this all leads to the same outcome. This game never being completed.
 

Mertonus

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If you think about it, the game has grown in general and the characters have grown, it just doesn't make sense without a team, at this rate, unfortunately, in 4 years we will get what we would get in 2 years with a command and management.
Afaik for the longest time he had/has quite the aversion towards hiring more people for rendering/setting up scenes and now that he has a animator it might accelerate a little bit ;P

At first, he did a lot of cringe scenes, then he went into more eroticism, the render became more interesting, the characters in the scenes began to look more lively due to manipulations with poses.
Just remember the beginning of the game and a walk around the city when Asian boys looked at Sofia)))
Agree many scenes were quite cringe or the Asian boy scene and the dialog with her ?sister? cant remember was over-the-top but for me they set a certain pace of story progression which more or less devolved into story regression at a snails pace.
 

RUSSIAN MAFIA

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Though why be surprised, he openly stated... What to make, not in the mouth what, delightful animation, (one) takes three months +/- :coffee:
 
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If you think about it, the game has grown in general and the characters have grown, it just doesn't make sense without a team, at this rate, unfortunately, in 4 years we will get what we would get in 2 years with a command and management.
At first, he did a lot of cringe scenes, then he went into more eroticism, the render became more interesting, the characters in the scenes began to look more lively due to manipulations with poses.
Just remember the beginning of the game and a walk around the city when Asian boys looked at Sofia)))
Hypothetically speaking, if I earn 1000 dollars a month for two years, it would be 24000, right?
Now, if I earn 1000 per month for 4 years, it would be 48000, right?
Do you think I will strive to do it in two years?
 

Pigeon lust

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I don't think he's "milking" in the same way I don't think Oceanlab is milking. They're both artists first, game developers 2nd. LP keeps finding new routes to make and new ways to render, like his latest thing with the god-rays and wanting to make the best animations in the history of the world. Next, he'll probably want cinematics or go crazy with the new volumetrics Daz added. Adding more routes is particularly bad, as LP himself has said he struggles with writing sometimes.

Whereas Ocean constantly remakes things because he wants the best things possible for his game. Not to mention he is making 2 games at once, and has redone them both and still remaking one of them. Another comparison is Enyo, he's remade False Hero about 10 times by now and has never made a deadline (I'm not joking). LP doesn't remake things, he just keeps adding more and more stuff that drags development down the rabbit hole.

I fully expect the animator to eventually leave, or more likely LP will get frustrated and fire them (like he supposedly already did to another helper or two). But speaking of remaking things, you have to re-render animations sometimes, and since LP is the one rendering them, I wouldn't be surprised if he is already remaking one of them, hence the animation progress not moving and the teaser delay.

So, I don't think he's milking. To me, milking = doing as little work as possible with intent to prolong the development process. Or not working at all, while still taking payments. LP does the opposite, he keeps adding more stuff to work on. But I don't think he is serious about completing the game either. He knows this current pace is completely unsustainable. Or if he doesn't, he has horrible awareness.

Either way, this all leads to the same outcome. This game never being completed.
I think the reason is that he's not a game designer, he can't create a team, maybe he just doesn't understand it.
Since I absolutely do not understand his reasoning in terms of the fact that it is enough to conduct a test task, let's say he is writing an event script, the storyboard can even be schematically done, as directors and game designers do, who absolutely do not know how to draw, but they need to show it somehow.
Then he checks the candidates, gives them a test task. As a result, he chooses the best for himself and takes him to the team. This is how the issue is solved in order to find a person with a similar style, but first you need to issue a game design document, describe everything.
I don't think he did everything on purpose for so long, he's just a great visual artist and has a good erotic taste, but as a project manager he's generally bad, unfortunately, it seems to me that he could participate in the production of scenes in absolutely other areas, and he would be successful, he has everything the same talent is certain and taste.
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Pigeon lust

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Hypothetically speaking, if I earn 1000 dollars a month for two years, it would be 24000, right?
Now, if I earn 1000 per month for 4 years, it would be 48000, right?
Do you think I will strive to do it in two years?
I think he would cut down even more money, I would even become his patron if the game was updated and there was more content in it, that's how it is, and that's why I usually go to this forum only when an update comes out, but it's fucking delayed)))
 
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