VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[tofhdns]

If you think of the car as the software and assets (the same for everyone), then you're left with the driver (renderer/Dev) at the controls....some are better than others.

I have to disagree with you.

Rendering is an art, placing and manipulating the models, clothes, hair, expressions etc. to look correct and good, as well as the setting, lighting and shade...something that is very much in common with a photographers skills.

As for your last sentence, this is what I and others are trying to explain to you...no you won't end up with the same result, as everybody is different and some are better than others.
Have a go and see. I think you'll find how difficult it really is!!

LP bought that face, hair, etc. or imitated.

Drawing by hand is different from drawing lines, pulling, and arranging colors.

If LP hires an employee and gives him detailed instructions, he can get exactly the same result he wants.

And I'm not saying it's easy or hard.

It's about whether someone else can do it or not.

 

[tofhdns]

If you spend many hours with the employee training them in your style, and if you share with the employee all of your assets, and if the employee is competent in the process and has the necessary skills.. then yes.. you will get similar results.. But this assumes you are working in the same design studio. If you are collaborating with others around the globe then the process become exponentially harder... As I previously stated I am not defending L&P's process.. But I can relate to the issues he/she experiences.

He bought everything from his face to his hairstyle to his school and house. or would have bought

I won't tell you about rendering.

 

[ST-9Pol]

He bought everything from his face to his hairstyle to his school and house. or would have bought

I won't tell you about rendering.

OK

 

[tofhdns]

Would you pay someone to cook you an egg when you know you can cook it yourself?

He said he was looking for an employee. for 4 years.

And if I need to cook eggs for three months, I'll hire a staff.

 

[Whitekink]

LP bought that face, hair, etc. or imitated.

Drawing by hand is different from drawing lines, pulling, and arranging colors.

If LP hires an employee and gives him detailed instructions, he can get exactly the same result he wants.

And I'm not saying it's easy or hard.

It's about whether someone else can do it or not.

You've avoided replying to what I said and the point I was trying to make.

You seem to think given the same tools and equipment, everyone/anyone will produce the same result.

Whatever employment you have, you must realise that is not the case, or else you're not willing to understand.

 

[tofhdns]

You've avoided replying to what I said and the point I was trying to make.

You seem to think given the same tools and equipment, everyone/anyone will produce the same result.

Whatever employment you have, you must realise that is not the case, or else you're not willing to understand.

I'm not talking about everyone.

When LP said he was looking for someone to do the job, I believe he didn't mean "anyone."

To believe that no one can replace you is to deny the company.

A carpenter can be replaced by a carpenter.
Every job, let alone an office worker, can find someone to work for them.

I'm not saying LP should throw the synopsis at someone else.

I am saying that if he gives the employee the model, face, body type and hairstyle he purchased, he will get the desired result.

He would have a great deal of trouble making the same hairstyle if he hadn't also bought a hairstyle.

 

[DylansMoM_001]

I smell teaser incoming tomorrow boyz
[/QUOand what is the source of this smell ??

 

[MyFirstPornAcc]

Sunday smell

 

[Devil3D]

He said he was looking for an employee. for 4 years.

And if I need to cook eggs for three months, I'll hire a staff.

He has a steady income source for the next five years.

Why will he share 30% or 40% of the monthly income with someone else?

Do you actually believe that someone will work for him for 10$ a month?

 

[Coachsophia45H]

I used to be active on the Fanart thread but moved 2 years ago to 8muses.
You can see what I do here.

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Next Level Milking

 

[tofhdns]

He has a steady income source for the next five years.

Why will he share 30% or 40% of the monthly income with someone else?

Do you actually believe that someone will work for him for 10$ a month?

What is the basis for 30% or 40%?

Also, what is the basis for the ten dollars?

choose one or the other.

Are you saying that LP makes $25 a month?

 

[Devil3D]

What is the basis for 30% or 40%?

Also, what is the basis for the ten dollars?

choose one or the other.

Are you saying that LP makes $25 a month?

He makes 3000USD + per month and he won't share it with anyone. He was nothing to gain if he hire someone only the fans will gain something .

He will only lose money in the long run if he finishes the VN early. The roadmap is set for another 5 years.

I doubt he will earn more subscribers if updates are released more often because of the type of fetish the game has, it is not for everyone.

 

[tofhdns]

He makes 3000USD + per month

The roadmap is set for another 5 years.

What is the basis?

 

[Devil3D]

What is the basis?

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[armion82]

He makes 3000USD + per month and he won't share it with anyone. He was nothing to gain if he hire someone only the fans will gain something .

He will only lose money in the long run if he finishes the VN early. The roadmap is set for another 5 years.

I doubt he will earn more subscribers if updates are released more often because of the type of fetish the game has, it is not for everyone.

He makes way more than 3K,more accurate will be 13K.
Definitely can hire at least 2 to help him

 

[Whitekink]

I'm not talking about everyone.

When LP said he was looking for someone to do the job, I believe he didn't mean "anyone."

To believe that no one can replace you is to deny the company.

A carpenter can be replaced by a carpenter.
Every job, let alone an office worker, can find someone to work for them.

I'm not saying LP should throw the synopsis at someone else.

I am saying that if he gives the employee the model, face, body type and hairstyle he purchased, he will get the desired result.

He would have a great deal of trouble making the same hairstyle if he hadn't also bought a hairstyle.

 

[Sai2004]

Android version of last update??

 

[palmtrees89]

He makes 3000USD + per month and he won't share it with anyone. He was nothing to gain if he hire someone only the fans will gain something .

He will only lose money in the long run if he finishes the VN early. The roadmap is set for another 5 years.

I doubt he will earn more subscribers if updates are released more often because of the type of fetish the game has, it is not for everyone.

This is nonsense. Like armion82 said, L&P makes WAY more than $3k. L&P's made more than $7k+ back in 2019 with only 900 subscribers at the time.

5 years? That "long run" you're talking about is not 5 years, it's currently around 34 years considering a single PD takes ~2 years of development with 17 more PD's left. So even if he'd hire someone and cut the time in half, we'd still be looking at 17+ years of development. Calling even that a "long run" would be an understatement. That's centuries in the world of game development, so to speak.

L&P would easily have twice as many subscribers by now if it wasn't for the fact that this game will likely never be completed. That is a major turnoff for anyone looking to support a project. Why would I waste my money on something that is barely progressing, knowing it will never be finished anyway? I've done it years ago, and stopped doing it when I realized that this isn't going anywhere. Many people here can tell you the exact same story.

Add to that L&P's character, his arrogant attitude, his lies and contradictions, broken promises....and so on. All things considered, you'd surely come to the conclusion that the reason for his rather "low" number of patrons is not about the fetishes he provides with this project.

But you are certainly right implying one thing; He won't deliver any faster.

He was nothing to gain if he hire someone only the fans will gain something .

Oh, maybe L&P should stop telling his supporters about hiring people to speed up development then...you know, for the past 4+ years? He's not gaining anything by doing that either. He's only losing trust, credibility, faith...whatever you wanna call it. And he's basically lost all of it already, atleast when it comes to 99% of people on this platform of which many are former patrons.

 

[Horny Little Brother]

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such trials are important, of course I won't tell you not to do it. but do not share dude, pls dont share!

 

[ancienregimele]

This is nonsense. Like armion82 said, L&P makes WAY more than $3k. L&P's made more than $7k+ back in 2019 with only 900 subscribers at the time.

5 years? That "long run" you're talking about is not 5 years, it's currently around 34 years considering a single PD takes ~2 years of development with 17 more PD's left. So even if he'd hire someone and cut the time in half, we'd still be looking at 17+ years of development. Calling even that a "long run" would be an understatement. That's centuries in the world of game development, so to speak.

L&P would easily have twice as many subscribers by now if it wasn't for the fact that this game will likely never be completed. That is a major turnoff for anyone looking to support a project. Why would I waste my money on something that is barely progressing, knowing it will never be finished anyway? I've done it years ago, and stopped doing it when I realized that this isn't going anywhere. Many people here can tell you the exact same story.

Add to that L&P's character, his arrogant attitude, his lies and contradictions, broken promises....and so on. All things considered, you'd surely come to the conclusion that the reason for his rather "low" number of patrons is not about the fetishes he provides with this project.

But you are certainly right implying one thing; He won't deliver any faster.



Oh, maybe L&P should stop telling his supporters about hiring people to speed up development then...you know, for the past 4+ years? He's not gaining anything by doing that either. He's only losing trust, credibility, faith...whatever you wanna call it. And he's basically lost all of it already, atleast when it comes to 99% of people on this platform of which many are former patrons.

I'm always surprised by the number of fans who come up with time-scales for AWAM apparently plucked from the air, with ideas that it's going to take another 5, 10, 15 years, or whatever, to reach a conclusion. It's not difficult to arrive at an estimate of more than 40 years, as the Dev is working towards a roll-out pace of over 2 months for each event, with a minimum of 2 years per PD but a strong possibility of taking longer. No fan needs to be a mathmetician. I think part of the issue is the sheer length of time the game is due to take. It's conclusion is currently so far away that it's hard to grasp, especially given that L&P's stated intention at the beginning was to finish in around 5 years, i.e. it would have been 2022.

I think of this differently now & maintain an interest for the quality renders & to see how much further AWAM can deteriorate owing to the Dev's decisions. If past evidence had given any cause for optimism, or there was word of a credible, believable projection for speeding up, I believe Patreon numbers would rise. Word would soon get around.

Unless something as yet unknown occurs, the only way to achieve a "quickening" without a visible commitment to working harder, faster & smarter, is to cut storylines & characters. There is a sense in which this has already been done informally, particularly for those who don't play for incest, so it will be 6 years until Aiden reappears, (originally announced as 5 but drifting calmly into the distance) & it will be 12 years, in 2035, before Nathalie turns up again, to name 2 secondary but important cast members. Will they ever be seen again, is a legitimate question.

How many other characters of the non-incest variety will have disappeared by then remains to be seen, hence the curiosity value AWAM now possesses. There are many fans who are happy with the current situation & I can understand that, because it is what it is, then there are those of the currently correct opinion that they're being well-served, because they enjoy the M/S incest. Regardless of viewpoints & personal tastes, however, I believe it's essential basic information for fans & followers to have an understanding of how long this project is due to take.