VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Sonny86]

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Soooooo slooooooooowwwww!!!

 

[Galaktur]

This whole discussion is so twisted. SOME tell me that it's L&P who made Dylan a 2nd main character, while some other write here that only Sophia is a main character. Sorry, That's just pointless nonsense.

What is crucial is that this game is not about Sophia, but about Sophia as "A wife and mother" and always has been. This gives Dylan, Liam and Ellie a special significance. Therefore, It only makes sense to tell something from their perspective, for better story telling, as it ultimately also has an impact on Sophia. This is exactly what L&P announced in its introduction and is now implementing. Unfortunately much too slow, but that's another topic.

Wife and mother in whose person does she act? This is Sofia. Is it really that hard to understand? The wife is the topic of cheating with others. Mother is the subject of incest. This is just a designation of her actions. all other characters are secondary. Minor characters with whom she will interact.

 

[Galaktur]

Excuse me if this has been answered already in the thread… but what is Steam and why is this a priority to L&P?

An online digital distribution service for computer games and software developed and maintained by Valve. Steam acts as a means of technical copyright protection, a platform for multiplayer games and streaming, as well as a social network for players. Approximately 100-120 million people visit this platform at least once a month.

 

[hzjujk]

I don't understand why this should be a topic of discussion.

Sophia, as well as Dylan and Ellie, were not born naturally but were created by this developer.

Of course, the developer decides who the main character is.

You make me say the same thing over and over again, is Liam the MC?
Why is Sam an important character? Sophia is neither his mother nor his wife.
Because he's a friend of Sophia's son?

What about Natalie? Is it a meaningless existence?
What about Murray and Ivan?

Does it mean something because Alicia is the mother of Sofia's son's friend?

The principal is Sophia's boss at work and the principal of her son's school. Why has his presence diminished?

You just claim without being able to explain.

The game starts with Sofia's dialogue and shows Sofia's dialogue the most.
What was “MC Dylan (you claim)” doing at this time, and how much of an impression did he have on the audience?
(I'm not talking about the current Dylan.)

There is a narration explaining the character at the beginning of the game, so please look for how many times the word "protagonist" appears and what character it refers to.

Spoiler: protagonist

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Spoiler: This is how the creators show MC and non-MC

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Spoiler: What did Dylan do at this time?

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Spoiler: AND

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The reason Dylan, who was not an MC, became an MC in Part 2 was because the developer decided that way.
That's it.

And the tag introducing this game still only has “female protagonist.”
There is no “male protagonist”.
If your Dylan isn't a woman, he wasn't a "protagonist." (In Part 1)

You're right about three things:
1.: The game should have the tag "various protagonists" instead of "female protagonist". That should be changed.
2.: I also don't feel the same excited curiosity about the update as I would with an update in which Sophia would play a role. That's just the way it is, but there's no reason for me to cry forever.
3.: Although I like following Dylan and Sophia's story, I also see the problem that Dylan gets too much "space" that day and the next. The reason is that I'm wondering what's next for this route once the two of them fuck. I also think that the other routes (in which I also have an interest) are neglected.

As for the story as a whole, I think telling it from different points of view makes it more interesting. When I was a child I didn't like this kind of storytelling, now as an adult I have learned to appreciate telling a story from different points of view. The different points of view make a fictional story more real to me.

None of those who think it's not interesting that the story is told only from Sophia's point of view have denied that there are problems with the speed of development. If we got an update every two months, we wouldn't have the discussion about the "female protagonist" with such intensity. This cannot be completely avoided because some remain children forever.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Captain Obvious isn't this one. Stay focused, please

Ditto

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

When you say "all three bars", are you talking about CS+RS+Animations? The first 70% on animations took 3 and a half months. I doubt he'll be finishing the last 30% in just 4 days. lol

And if he does, that would beg for other questions.

That could be explained only by time-space continuum curvature over the Swiss Alps

 

[Galaktur]

That could be explained only by time-space continuum curvature over the Swiss Alps

Do you think he's sitting on the Hadron collider with his ass)))

 

[palmtrees89]

You're right about three things:
1.: The game should have the tag "various protagonists" instead of "female protagonist". That should be changed.
2.: I also don't feel the same excited curiosity about the update as I would with an update in which Sophia would play a role. That's just the way it is, but there's no reason for me to cry forever.
3.: Although I like following Dylan and Sophia's story, I also see the problem that Dylan gets too much "space" that day and the next. The reason is that I'm wondering what's next for this route once the two of them fuck. I also think that the other routes (in which I also have an interest) are neglected.

As for the story as a whole, I think telling it from different points of view makes it more interesting. When I was a child I didn't like this kind of storytelling, now as an adult I have learned to appreciate telling a story from different points of view. The different points of view make a fictional story more real to me.

None of those who think it's not interesting that the story is told only from Sophia's point of view have denied that there are problems with the speed of development. If we got an update every two months, we wouldn't have the discussion about the "female protagonist" with such intensity. This cannot be completely avoided because some remain children forever.

Well, good point. It all comes down to the slow development. The game's been in development for like 6 1/2 years now. To think that we may get to see another 3 PD's in that same timeframe is the main issue. Even a 2 month cycle as you mentioned wouldn't be nearly fast enough to progress the game in a reasonable pace. It would still mean roughly 20 months for one(!) ingame day assuming most upcoming PD's have 10+ events.

This fact alone is why AWAM is a ship heading directly towards the iceberg that is time. It will inevitably sink unless something changes, and it has to happen rather sooner than later.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

This whole discussion is so twisted. SOME tell me that it's L&P who made Dylan a 2nd main character, while some other write here that only Sophia is a main character. Sorry, That's just pointless nonsense.

What is crucial is that this game is not about Sophia, but about Sophia as "A wife and mother" and always has been. This gives Dylan, Liam and Ellie a special significance. Therefore, It only makes sense to tell something from their perspective, for better story telling, as it ultimately also has an impact on Sophia. This is exactly what L&P announced in its introduction and is now implementing. Unfortunately much too slow, but that's another topic.

They say one picture is worth thousand words, so let's try two pictures:

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Do you think he's sitting on the Hadron collider with his ass)))

Either that, or he serves in Swiss Guard and is granted miracles from the Pope.

 

[lockerxx]

Progress Report Ver. 0.195.

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is moving!!!

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

They say one picture is worth thousand words, so let's try two pictures:
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I just want this update to be done already, so we can get back to waiting for Sophia in a update next year

 

[tofhdns]

You're right about three things:
1.: The game should have the tag "various protagonists" instead of "female protagonist". That should be changed.
2.: I also don't feel the same excited curiosity about the update as I would with an update in which Sophia would play a role. That's just the way it is, but there's no reason for me to cry forever.
3.: Although I like following Dylan and Sophia's story, I also see the problem that Dylan gets too much "space" that day and the next. The reason is that I'm wondering what's next for this route once the two of them fuck. I also think that the other routes (in which I also have an interest) are neglected.

As for the story as a whole, I think telling it from different points of view makes it more interesting. When I was a child I didn't like this kind of storytelling, now as an adult I have learned to appreciate telling a story from different points of view. The different points of view make a fictional story more real to me.

None of those who think it's not interesting that the story is told only from Sophia's point of view have denied that there are problems with the speed of development. If we got an update every two months, we wouldn't have the discussion about the "female protagonist" with such intensity. This cannot be completely avoided because some remain children forever.

I already wrote this, but I'll write it again.

I'm not saying, should delete Dylan.
Also, I didn't criticize Dylan until this developer named him MC, and I still don't criticize him for other than Dylan becoming MC.

It seems that some people tend to overinterpret or misunderstand this.

I definitely recognized that Dylan was a “device” that told the story or connected the relationships.

And while I've criticized the Sex Education content before, I've also said that Sofia and Dylan's relationship needs to be developed more.

I agree that different perspectives enrich a story.

But the diverse perspectives are not limited to Dylan and Ellie.

What role did Patricia play in Sofia's past and players are curious about it.
Carl has attempted to approach Sofia and he is the object of Liam's jealousy.
Andy and Cathy are there too and they are waiting for the swap.
Natalie is a completely independent character and has bisexual tendencies.

They all offer different perspectives to the players.

But that doesn't mean they are all MCs.

I don't want sidejob events to be deleted.
Because that too is a new perspective for me.
(But I am silent)

Once again, I'm talking about MC, not existence.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

I just want this update to be done already, so we can get back to waiting for Sophia in a update next year

How optimistic...

 

[Abserd Spud]

I know that there is going to be a 'break', while LP works on Steam release. Has their been any indication how long that break is going to be?

 

[rAmSiMaL]

How optimistic...

Earliest release 14/01 latest 31/01…

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

I know that there is going to be a 'break', while LP works on Steam release. Has their been any indication how long that break is going to be?

There is so much content that he will have to remove from this game to have it accepted on steam though. Just off the top of my head, what has to be removed for steam are

the first side job with the shota boys

all copyrighted products

all unlicensed music

racist views or slurs toward certain groups of people (Claire)

sexual content in schools (like the 3way rape with Aiden & Dr Dre)

(there is probly more, but that’s all I could remember)

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

sexual content in schools (like the 3way rape with Aiden & Dr Dre)

the wisest thing

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

There is so much content that he will have to remove from this game to have it accepted on steam though. Just off the top of my head, what has to be removed for steam are

the first side job with the shota boys

all copyrighted products

all unlicensed music

racist views or slurs toward certain groups of people (Claire)

sexual content in schools (like the 3way rape with Aiden & Dr Dre)

(there is probly more, but that’s all I could remember)

Sounds like a very busy first half of 2024, eh? Worry not, he already started
Luckily for him, the shtick works and his enablers think they're paying for a new content which he already created and is just gradually farting out

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

Sounds like a very busy first half of 2024, eh? Worry not, he already started
Luckily for him, the shtick works and his enablers think they're paying for a new content which he already created and is just gradually farting out

Wait till the Steam crowd plays this for first time and he gets asked all the same questions he loves so much on Patreon?

Why is this game called “a wife and mother” when it’s all about Dylan?

When will Sophia have a sex scene with anyone but husband?

Why do your updates take so long? etc